OBAMA is going to have to answer this!

[joelatti]

there are no questions regarding obama's either. some may hope there are and raise a ruckus, but its been debunked.

Is that correct...YOU have seen a copy of BO BIRTH CERTIFICATE??


NOONE HAS and that is a FACT

Please tell me differently...and please don't tell me McCain isn't a natural born citizen...its comical...HOW Barry will NOT release his BC

And how he used an INDONISIAN passport to goto Pakistan in 1981?? Isn't that strange to anyone?

There was NO dual citizenship back then...so explain GTC please enlighten me?

 

[gtc08]

hawaii state department confirming it and the announcement in the paper is enough for me.

mccain is a citizen. so is obama.

if obama wasn't, hillary would've used it and won the nomination. i know your a follower of philip berg, which tells me all i need to know.

you believe what you want to believe. if you don't think he's a citizen, then ok. im just saying we've been through this before, everything is good enough for me, common sense prevails over paranoia for me.

if you dont think hes a citizen, go out and file a suit against him. anything is better then going crazy about it here on a gambling forum. like anyone could give 2 shits about what you or i say.

 

[joelatti]

A) I never heard of Berg before Last week

B) This is the POLITICAL forum

C) Just show the F'in Birth Certificate and move on.......Its only the Presidency he is seeking so maybe he is above that???

 

[PowerPlayPicks]

Gelatto is so damn stoopid, McCain was born at the Panama Canal!

 

[EasyMoney]

A) I never heard of Berg before Last week

B) This is the POLITICAL forum

C) Just show the F'in Birth Certificate and move on.......Its only the Presidency he is seeking so maybe he is above that???

He did show a copy of his BC didn't he. It was just on a website that apparently likes Obama so you say its not good enough. Let me ask you this. Where is the proof he's not a natural born citizen. Other than the accusations by some tool.

By the way I'm pretty sure that the U.S. constitution never truley difines what a "natural born citizen" is. If you can show me otherwise I will listen.

 

[joelatti]

He did show a copy of his BC didn't he. It was just on a website that apparently likes Obama so you say its not good enough. Let me ask you this. Where is the proof he's not a natural born citizen. Other than the accusations by some tool.

By the way I'm pretty sure that the U.S. constitution never truley difines what a "natural born citizen" is. If you can show me otherwise I will listen.

I'm only going to say this ONE more time...so please try and read correctly


A certificate of live birth(which is what he has provided) is NOT, NOT, NOT

A Birth certificate!

Get it good

 

[festeringZit]

I'm only going to say this ONE more time...so please try and read correctly


A certificate of live birth(which is what he has provided) is NOT, NOT, NOT

A Birth certificate!

Get it good

Joe,

The sad but true fact is, even if the truth comes out about
Obama being born in Kenya, the leftists on here wouldn't care,
they'll be just as much the Obama worshippers as before, probably
even more.

 

[barman]

I'm only going to say this ONE more time

Is this a promise, or are you just being a P Tease again?

 

[D2bets]

I'm only going to say this ONE more time...so please try and read correctly


A certificate of live birth(which is what he has provided) is NOT, NOT, NOT

A Birth certificate!

Get it good

Who gives a fuck. Hawaii dept of health says they have it and it is valid. Period. Hawaii exec branch, run by McCain supporting Repubs, is not going to publicly fabricate such a thing. That's as much as you have on McCain's birth certificate which is some press folks saying they saw it. Same thing. Period.

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

They are actively being protected by a Federal Court Order....Doesn't that seem very strange to you Judge???

Do you have a non-kook source to back this claim up?

 

[EasyMoney]

I'm only going to say this ONE more time...so please try and read correctly


A certificate of live birth(which is what he has provided) is NOT, NOT, NOT

A Birth certificate!

Get it good

well fuck me running. maybe i'm not a u.s. citizen because mine says "certificate of live birth" right on the top of it. That must mean that this is wrong then
[edit] Birth certificates in the United States

In the U.S. vital statistics is a state function, because it is not a power assigned by the constitution to the federal government. Nonetheless, the federal and state governments have cooperated to improve vital statistics. From 1900 to 1946 the U.S. Census Bureau designed standard birth certificates, collected vital statistics on a national basis, and generally sought to improve the accuracy of vital statistics. In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in "registers", the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a "Certificate of Live Birth". <SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2003rev_2-0>[3]</SUP><SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-census_3-0>[4]</SUP>
In the U.S., the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics creates standard forms that are recommended for use by the individual states to document births. However, states are free to create their own forms. <SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-standardcerts_4-0>[5]</SUP> These "forms" are completed by the attendant at birth or a hospital administrator, which are then forwarded to a local or state registrar, who stores the record and issues certified copies when requested <SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-handbook_0-1>[1]</SUP>.

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

LOL

I just checked out mine as well. On the top it says "Certificate of Live Birth".

I guess I'm not a citizen either.

 

[barman]

LOL

I just checked out mine as well. On the top it says "Certificate of Live Birth".

I guess I'm not a citizen either.

My Texas BC from 1960 sez same thing.

Raise a Glass to the new breed of non-Americans!

:drink:

 

[joelatti]

Well you guys SHOULD know the difference/At Least I taught You all something today

10/21/2008 A Closer Look At The Birth Certificate By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
One of the most intense allegations of the ongoing lawsuit against Sen. Barack Obama alleging ineligibility for the presidency is whether or not Mr. Obama can produce his birth certificate.

If Mr. Obama were to produce his birth certificate, it would lay the entire question to rest. It would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the U.S. government officially recognizes Mr. Obama's citizenship. The Obama campaign says that it has already produced this document, a scanned copy of which is available at the campaign's "Fight the Smears" Web site.

One point critics of Mr. Obama have made is the fact that the document posted is not, in fact, a birth certificate. It is a birth certification, which is a computer-generated printout of a birth record. A certification is a cheap print-off for people who have lost their original birth certificates. For most people, there is little practical difference between a certificate of live birth and a certification of live birth, although the certification requires extra verification when being used like a birth certificate.

Because of the tenuous nature of identifying a certification of birth as genuine, it requires an embossed seal and authoritative signature. The low-resolution scan available on the Obama campaign Web site appears to have neither of those. The ink from a date stamp, "June 6, 2007," is visible clearly, but it appears that the document does not have a seal or signature. The campaign only scanned the front of the document.

Without the seal and signature, the document on the Obama Web site lacks legal weight, and does not count as representing the official birth record of Mr. Obama.

Philip Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, has filed suit against Mr. Obama, alleging that he is not legally qualified to serve as president. He has indicated that if Mr. Obama were to produce certified documents proving that he is a natural born citizen, he will withdraw his case.

Mr. Berg maintains that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, but others wonder if there are more reasons why Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee have not laid the question to rest by releasing the documents. Some think that there may be embarrassing information about Mr. Obama that could be inferred from the papers.

The original birth certificate would normally have an entry for religion, and many suppose he would have been listed as Muslim, an image Mr. Obama has worked hard to distance himself from. Others think it might have shown that his parents were not legally married, even though Mr. Obama contends that his parents were married in good faith before separating upon discovering his father had never divorced his last wife.

The Obama campaign says that the idea that Mr. Obama is not natural born is preposterous and cites the certification of birth as an example. But until a physical and verifiable document is produced for their critics, the lawsuit is expected to continue.

 

[EasyMoney]

My Texas BC from 1960 sez same thing.

Raise a Glass to the new breed of non-Americans!

:drink:

this brings a new problem to the conversation. If we arn't u.s. citizens than WTF are we. Do we have a country or are we literally homeless?

 

[punter]

joelatti, your fingertips bleeding yet with all this grasping at straws?

 

[joelatti]

joelatti, your fingertips bleeding yet with all this grasping at straws?

NOPE yours??

I sleep very well at night knowing I have NOT voted for the next president of the United States


I am NOT questioning his birthplace...I am questioning WHY HE won't produce it??


And is this any indication as to hhow he is going to runb his cabinet>?

 

[D2bets]

NOPE yours??

I sleep very well at night knowing I have NOT voted for the next president of the United States


I am NOT questioning his birthplace...I am questioning WHY HE won't produce it??


And is this any indication as to hhow he is going to runb his cabinet>?

When has McCain produced his? He hasn't. He hasn't because he doesn't need to. Neither of them do. End of story.

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

NOPE yours??

I sleep very well at night knowing I have NOT voted for the next president of the United States


I am NOT questioning his birthplace...I am questioning WHY HE won't produce it??


And is this any indication as to hhow he is going to runb his cabinet>?

So besides pounding away furiously at your keyboard, what else are you doing to save this country from impending doom? Surely if this is so important and the constitution is as valuable to you as you say it is you much be organizing a grassroots effort to expose this danged furriner. Right?

 

[joelatti]

I already posted that the media did a full investigation and CONGRESS after reviewing the evidence declared he was born on MILITARY ground


Obama has done NOTHING

If he wanted to, he could put this to bed in 3 secs, but???????