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I could only stomach about 45 seconds of it before I turned it.

Me too. I planned on watching it, but about the time he listed 4 or 5 things he wants to do then said "This isn't big govt" I had to turn it off.
 

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any one who buys into this infomercial needs to get whacked upside the head. his fake smoothness has reeled in the weak and is just shepherding the dumb masses into believing this shit. feel sorry for u guys
 

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any one who buys into this infomercial needs to get whacked upside the head. his fake smoothness has reeled in the weak and is just shepherding the dumb masses into believing this shit. feel sorry for u guys

coming from the guy who chooses to not spell out "you" but instead types it like a 13 year old girl would.
 

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Incredibly well produced stuff. Whole thing was good. I thought it would just be Obama reading a script at a desk the whole time. But damn, what a show.
well said again mr funk:pope:
 

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coming from the guy who chooses to not spell out "you" but instead types it like a 13 year old girl would.
inciteful and worthy post, YOU must talk to 13 year olds online all the time uh? you and chris hansen are probably tight
 

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You know, the way this ad comes off will make all of McCain & Palin's last ditch efforts of fear mongoring null and void.

Undecideds will see yet another message and a final message, of a steady, concerned, and thoughtful candidate who's ready on day one. And the alternative? They'll see Palin and McCain who continue to throw accusations, slime. It's a stark contrast of one candidate who's talking about the people and his plan and another who's throwing the kitchen sink because they're clearly LOSING.

That strategy blows anything away that Rove or Morris can drum up in the final days. All Obama has to do is keep his eyes on the finish line. Let the otherside bullhorn terms like socialist, terrorist and not ready. Its working brilliantly!
 

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You know, the way this ad comes off will make all of McCain & Palin's last ditch efforts of fear mongoring null and void.

Undecideds will see yet another message and a final message, of a steady, concerned, and thoughtful candidate who's ready on day one. And the alternative? They'll see Palin and McCain who continue to throw accusations, slime. It's a stark contrast of one candidate who's talking about the people and his plan and another who's throwing the kitchen sink because they're clearly LOSING.

Uhm dude...even the AP and Yahoo are ripping on Obama's ad..and its not pretty. :ohno:

Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities

<CITE class=vcard>By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer </CITE><ABBR class=recenttimedate title=2008-10-29T18:18:09-0700>1 hr 9 mins ago</ABBR>
<!-- end .byline -->WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:
THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
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THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."
THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.
___
THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."
THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years — and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."
___
THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "
THE FACTS: His proposals — the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more — cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged — although not in his commercial — that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_el_ge/fact_check_obama_ad
 

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Uhm dude...even the AP and Yahoo are ripping on Obama's ad..and its not pretty. :ohno:

Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities

<cite class="vcard">By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer </cite><abbr class="recenttimedate" title="2008-10-29T18:18:09-0700">1 hr 9 mins ago</abbr>
<!-- end .byline -->WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:
THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
___
THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."
THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.
___
THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."
THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years — and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."
___
THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "
THE FACTS: His proposals — the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more — cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged — although not in his commercial — that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_el_ge/fact_check_obama_ad

Um dude people don't judge what they see in this way.
 

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Um dude people don't judge what they see in this way. <!-- / message -->

Translation from D2...We think our lies worked. :lolBIG:
 

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After watching him over the last few month and in the infomercial tonight, one would have to be extremely cynical to believe that Obama is the monster that McPalin would lead you to believe.
 

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Incredibly program by the Obama campaign tonight. That just sealed the deal. I'm not even American and this guy inspires me. He will be a terrific president, but even more so he'll be a terrific leader for the country to rally behind.
 
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Incredibly program by the Obama campaign tonight. That just sealed the deal. I'm not even American and this guy inspires me. He will be a terrific president, but even more so he'll be a terrific leader for the country to rally behind.
:ohno:
 

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any one who buys into this infomercial needs to get whacked upside the head. his fake smoothness has reeled in the weak and is just shepherding the dumb masses into believing this shit. feel sorry for u guys

Yeah but at least he can...
 

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Incredibly program by the Obama campaign tonight. That just sealed the deal. I'm not even American and this guy inspires me. He will be a terrific president, but even more so he'll be a terrific leader for the country to rally behind.

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Well...that says it all doesn't it....Freudian slip and all.

I guess it was "incredibly program" (ed). :ohno:
 

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MJ you are one bitter mutherf'er. Chill dude, it's all gonna be alright. Just say goodbye to the fundy-whack Sarah holy roller and heal man.
 

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overkill - if he mentions raising taxes it could hurt him. the democrats just refuse to learn the lesson that the idea of raising taxes is not going to get them votes...ever.

Funny that...One of the reasons I'm voting for Obama is a confidence that he will empower the US Congress to bump income tax rates for higher level earners.
 

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Uhm dude...even the AP and Yahoo are ripping on Obama's ad..and its not pretty. :ohno:

Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities

<CITE class=vcard>By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer </CITE><ABBR class=recenttimedate title=2008-10-29T18:18:09-0700>1 hr 9 mins ago</ABBR>
<!-- end .byline -->WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:
THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
___
THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."
THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.
___
THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."
THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years — and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."
___
THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "
THE FACTS: His proposals — the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more — cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged — although not in his commercial — that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_el_ge/fact_check_obama_ad

The conservative Wall Street Journal thinks otherwise.

========================================================
How would you grade Obama's 30-minute TV special?

A (64.1%) 1537 votes
B (7.3%) 174 votes
C (4.0%) 96 votes
D (7.4%) 176 votes
F (17.4%) 416 votes
 

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