Obama- Are you folks SERIOUS? They got us into this Situation.

[Willie99]

George the 1st was a 1term president for a good reason. Clinton took over his mess and straighted it out. George the 2nd inherited a warm bed and with the help of a republican congress has in 8 years put this country in the worse mess in 70 years.

Now 25 days into Obama's administration we are forced to hear you idiots tell why his plan wont work.

Well just kiss off motherfuckers.

so you still think Clinton turned around an economy that was growing at 4% when he took office? was growing for 18 months when he took office and growing for 25 months before he passed a budget that you think turned around the economy. Is that what you're saying?

Hint, the economy didn't need no turning around there dude, but the enablers sure have fooled a lot of people.

forget the networks and talking head liars, look up economic facts some day

 

[Kiln]

why don't you cite polls about the topic at hand? because Americans don't support his pork plan so your argument "FAILS"? Could that be why?

You really fell for that one.

(CBS) <!-- sphereit start -->Slightly more than half the country approves of President Obama's $800 billion-plus stimulus package, a new CBS News poll finds. But support for the bill has fallen 12 points since January, and nearly half of those surveyed do not believe it will shorten the recession.

Fifty-one percent of those surveyed support the stimulus package, while 39 percent do not. An additional 10 percent don't know. Last month, 63 percent supported the package and just 24 percent opposed it.

Americans believe the president is following through on his promise to establish greater bipartisanship in Washington: The public overwhelmingly thinks Obama is reaching out to Congressional Republicans, with 81 percent saying he is doing so.

 

[rolltide]

kiln does not live in the real world, nor understand it's issues from more than a textbook perspective, so he must simply cut and paste useless information to be a semi-contributor to the forum.

 

[rolltide]

<!-- sphereit start -->
Fifty-one percent of those surveyed support the stimulus package, while 39 percent do not. An additional 10 percent don't know. Last month, 63 percent supported the package and just 24 percent opposed it.

appreciate the info because you're explaining that as more and more information about the "stimulus" is released, the public is liking it less and less.

not part of the debate club at school, eh?

 

[Willie99]

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Support for the economic recovery plan working its way through Congress has fallen again this week. For the first time, a plurality of voters nationwide oppose the $800-billion-plus plan.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...kage/support_for_stimulus_package_falls_to_37

 

[Kiln]

kiln does not live in the real world, nor understand it's issues from more than a textbook perspective, so he must simply cut and paste useless information to be a semi-contributor to the forum.

You guys are so funny. Either all I know I know from a text book or I don't know anything because all I do is "travel and research."

It delights me to no end to watch you people fall all over yourselves trying to be mean as if you can mean your way out from under the weight of the historical moment. And you wonder why "Conservative" has become a dirty word.

 

[Willie99]

with support dropping like a rock, no wonder the guy doesn't want to debate

:lol:

 

[Kiln]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...kage/support_for_stimulus_package_falls_to_37

http://www.pollingreport.com/budget.htm

 

[Willie99]

what's wrong with these numbers

Job approval 62 to 21

Stimulus approval 37 to 43


a 47% swing?

I guess Americans want to like the new President, but they don't like is policy.

 

[bilbal]

with support dropping like a rock, no wonder the guy doesn't want to debate

:lol:

We ain't seen nothing yet. The Peter Principle is catching up to him and it will eventually leave him a balding, deer in the headlights with nothing but advisory councils all around him to do his work.

One of the few things I agree with Obama on is that he said he didn't have enough experience to run for President. He sure nailed that one.

 

[Willie99]

http://www.pollingreport.com/budget.htm

thanks for the link

shows Americans want business tax cuts and shows Americans think tax cuts are much more important then government spending.

were you trying to help me make my points?

 

[fletchisrhsm]

http://www.pollingreport.com/budget.htm

Who gives a flying fuck about polls of the American people? These are the same people who can tell you who the contestants are on "the biggest loser" and "American Idol" but yet cant name the Senators or Governor from their own state. The average American is stretched too thin and rely too much on other people for information hence why they are easily duped and misled. So take that poll and any like it shove it up your ass. You actually think there is a difference between the two parties. Couldnt be the furthest thing from the truth queenie.

 

[rolltide]

It delights me to no end to watch you people fall all over yourselves trying to be mean as if you can mean your way out from under the weight of the historical moment. And you wonder why "Conservative" has become a dirty word.

by "historical moment" I assume you mean how giving trillions of dollars to banks, bankrupt automakers, and social programs masked as 'stimulus' will have all foreseeable future generations paying for a mistake we never wanted to make in the first place?

btw, conservative has always been a dirty word for academics and on college campuses...once you can recite something your professor did not place in your noodle, we'll talk.

I am a very proud Goldwater conservative but I am certainly not a "republican" as you know them. But, you don't know the difference because they haven't taught that in Liberalism 201

 

[Risk44]

You Republicans have got it all Figured out dont ya? Just like the last 8 years... You know everything..
:nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead:

 

[fletchisrhsm]

You Republicans have got it all Figured out dont ya? Just like the last 8 years... You know everything..
:nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead:

Shut your mouth. If you are gonna open up that cocksucker... at least have something substantial or meaningful to say. Besides, who is a Republican? Im not. Neither is Rolltide, so who are you addressing?

 

[Risk44]

You seem to forget about Bushies "Mandate" after defeating Kerry.. and where that got us..

 

[Risk44]

Shut your mouth. If you are gonna open up that cocksucker... at least have something substantial or meaningful to say. Besides, who is a Republican? Im not. Neither is Rolltide, so who are you addressing?

What a poo-poo mouth youve got there...Save that language for your sister.. How is that for meaningful? Sorry but I can say whatever I feel like and YOU cant do a DAMN THING ABOUT IT.. Especially since you are in MY THREAD ASSHOLE..
:nohead::nohead:

 

[Kiln]

... So take that poll and any like it shove it up your ass....

Couldnt be the furthest thing from the truth queenie.

You really reach the heights of discourse, to be sure. I'm truly surprised that more people aren't persuaded by your incisive commentary and insight. I especially like the way you rely on data and facts to make your points, rather than the childish and churlish ad hominem attacks typically identified with the playground bully.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

What a poo-poo mouth youve got there...Save that language for your sister.. How is that for meaningful? Sorry but I can say whatever I feel like and YOU cant do a DAMN THING ABOUT IT.. Especially since you are in MY THREAD ASSHOLE..
:nohead::nohead:

Lou, you are not that bright. Lets be honest. And my sister. Yhea shes a whore. But what do you ever bring to the table, other then cheap one liners that aren't funny and emocons? Of course you can what say you want, but if your not really saying anything....why not just be quiet and listen and learn. Then maybe you can actually take part in a grow up debate son.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

You really reach the heights of discourse, to be sure. I'm truly surprised that more people aren't persuaded by your incisive commentary and insight. I especially like the way you rely on data and facts to make your points, rather than the childish and churlish ad hominem attacks typically identified with the playground bully.

You have been here since October... three months ago. I have had MANY threads with colorful fact filled debate, just havent been presented anything yet that actually has any merit to stop with sarcasm. If you feel threatened and are calling me a bully over some things typed on a computer...you must have alot of problems out in the real world.