Oakland (-2.5) vs. Detroit

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As bad as Detroit is it's usually not a good idea to take a QB making his first ever start if he's favored on the road. The Texans won their second game of the year as 2.5 point home dogs to the Jaguars, led by QB Byron Leftwich making his first ever NFL start.

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Big Lou -- you make a good point. I, however, will take the pluses that Tui brings (mobility, freshness, team excitement) plus the bye week effect.

I typically won't bet a [0-7] ATS but I'll have to make an exception. If it pays the bills, count me in.
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Oakland (-3, -120 @ Bowmans; -2.5, -118 @ Pinnacle). More money coming in on Oakland...I've got to get my (-4)or (-4.5) for a good middle try...
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good luck with your middle, don't know if the line will go all the way to 4.5 but hwo knows, not me anyways...

on another note, Porter is now listed as questionable, I'm not sure of the detials but apparently he reinjured his abdomen, not sure.
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Gannon - "no comment"

he's known he's been done for years.


He has taken the ride and the ride is over IMO.

I could be wrong but Gannon has been done for a long time IMO.
 
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Jay, lol, o.k. he choked in the Superbowl last year big-time ut Tampa has made a lot of great quarterbacks look like fools, so I can't blame the guy for that loss, it was a tough situation to go against the Gruden-coached Bucs. And he was the NFL MVP to boot. so what's your beef with Gannon? lol you're a broncos fan, huh? I think he's fallen off this year, of course, but it's been a fun/frustrating ride the past 4 years for the Raidah fans so I've gotta give the man props. Just so you know, there's a vocal segment of the Raider nation that has shared your same view.
 

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Oren1 -- this game is a gimme. Oakland wins by more than 2.5. I thought the same thing against Chicago, Cincinnati -- but this time I'll cash with a winning ticket.
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How confident are you on this game?

Regarding Gannon -- his time has come and gone. Gannon & Gruden meshed for whatever reason - the intensity and the plays happened. It's left since the Super Bowl. I've been a Raider fan -- albeit incognito due to the presence of Al Davis. Al is a loser for the football team: he just wants power. Financially good for him but bad for the football team.
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Bowmans has the line @ (-3.5) and Pinnacle has the game @ (-2.5; -118). Moving the right direction....
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Iam from det.....if they lose this one .....one of the top ten bottom teams....they can win for next 8 games...........

my comp pick said....det sure win by 7....

not me....... not for $$$$$$
 

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Ace-Ace,

I don't know what "my comp pick said" means, but I have watched Oakland play. They played tough against Tennesse and Kansas City. They should come to motor city well-rested and a desire to play ball.

Detroit on the other hand hasn't seen the light side of the moon since Barry S. left town.
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adv, it's not so much confidence as it is optimism, but, it is my favorite play this week. If Tui can keep the mistakes down they should be able to beat these guys.
 

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this year we learned to expect the impossible from the raiders.
it's always something with them.
i think al davis has a talk with the new kid at qb, promises him the world, the kid comes in excited to throw downfield to rice and brown and porter, the team gets fired up and does just the opposite as they did in the first half of the season, cover every game.
once again raiders throw a curveball.
i know it's a reach and sounds impossible, but so does starting the season 0-7 ats.
nobody saw that coming.
raiders turn it around starting fresh off the bye with the lions.

GAME.
 
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wow, things are worse than I thought. I've given up on this season, so have actually been hoping for more losses which hopefully would result in some major changes with the coaching staff, now this comes out, wow. They've made some really stupid play calls on offense this year.

"Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson lambasted Bill Callahan during an interview with ESPN's Andrea Kremer, saying the head coach's arrogance is such that he's ignoring the advice of the team's experienced players.

Asked whether Callahan has lost the team because of the Raiders' tumultuous 2-5 start, Woodson replied, "A large part of it.''

What do you do about it as veteran players, Woodson was asked.

"You know what's so tough about that, is I think we have a coach with a very big ego, you know what I mean?'' Woodson told Kremer during an interview conducted Wednesday at the Raiders' facility in Alameda. "And he's not listening to those veterans. And that's what's sad about it.

"When you get to a point, I think, in your life where you can't listen to guys with the experience that we have on our offense,'' Woodson continued, "then I think there's something very wrong. That's the problem.''

KNBR radio as well as ESPN news played that portion of the interview extensively Thursday afternoon. Woodson was not made available to print media this week.

Kremer's entire five-minute piece on the Raiders will air on ESPN's Sunday "NFL Countdown" show.

Callahan was not available for comment late Thursday.

Briefly: Newly signed DT Sean Gilbert, who conceded he was sluggish following his first practice in over a year on Wednesday, looked stronger in Thursday's workout, Callahan said. "He played over the center, he played over the guard. I thought it was a good progression,'' the coach said. "He could possibly be active (Sunday). I haven't determined that.''
 

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CWood is the last person who should be criticising anybody since he's getting toasted or making TD saving pass interference plays on the Raiders 20 yard line.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by advalorem:
Ace-Ace, MY COMPUTER PROGRAM PICK.....im beting my top 3 picks.....det was the 4 won...I gut said it will be a close game...home field .....is big here....we have not won on the road in 19 away games

I don't know what "my comp pick said" means, but I have watched Oakland play. They played tough against Tennesse and Kansas City. They should come to motor city well-rested and a desire to play ball.

Detroit on the other hand hasn't seen the light side of the moon since Barry S. left town.
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Iam from det.....if they lose this one .....one of the top ten bottom teams....they can win for next 8 games...........

my comp pick said....det sure win by 7....

not me....... not for $$$$$$


This is an accident waiting to happen
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by winbet:
Iam from det.....if they lose this one .....one of the top ten bottom teams....they can win for next 8 games...........

my comp pick said....det sure win by 7....

not me....... not for $$$$$$


This is an accident waiting to happen
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'AM NOT BETTING DET...........IT SURE OF READ......IF THEY CANT BEAT OAKLAND....THEY CANT WIN THE NEXT {HARD} GAMES
 

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I don't have any respect for players like Charles Woodson who air dirty laundry on ESPN. Keep the negative comments in the locker room. Charles needs to just focus upon game day, collect his $5 million a year, and play hard.

Mssr. Al Davis can make the necessary coaching changes.
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3peet and adv, I agree. It was surprising to hear him spill the beans like that, not a very classy move on his part.
 

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