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4H Army (-14) Louisiana Tech 9:15 PM ESPN
3H Nebraska (-3) Boston College Noon ABC

Top Opinion:
NFL Marquee - LA Rams (-6.5) Arizona 8 PM NFL Network
Marquee - Over 60.5 East Carolina/NC State Noon ABC
Marquee - Over 58.5 Miami, FL/Iowa State 3:30 PM ABC
Miami, FL (-4.5) Iowa State 3:30 PM ABC
Colorado (-3) BYU 7:30 PM ABC

Regular Opinion:
Miami, OH (-2.5) Colorado St 4:30 PM The CW
TCU (-10) Louisiana 2:15 PM ESPN
Marquee - Under 40.5 Miami, OH/Colorado St The CW 4:30 PM
Marquee - Under 53.5 UConn/North Carolina 11 AM ESPN
Marquee - Under 47 Boston College/Nebraska Noon ABC
Marquee - Over 55.5 Colorado/BYU 7:30 PM ABC

Had to Pick’em:
North Carolina (-2.5) UConn 11 AM ESPN
NC State (-6.5) East Carolina 5:45 PM Noon
Marquee - Under 44 Army/Louisiana Tech 9:15 PM ESPN
Marquee - Over 59 TCU/Louisiana 2:15 PM ESPN
 

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4H Army (-14) Louisiana Tech 9:15 PM ESPN
3H Nebraska (-3) Boston College Noon ABC

Top Opinion:
NFL Marquee - LA Rams (-6.5) Arizona 8 PM NFL Network
Marquee - Over 60.5 East Carolina/NC State Noon ABC
Marquee - Over 58.5 Miami, FL/Iowa State 3:30 PM ABC
Miami, FL (-4.5) Iowa State 3:30 PM ABC
Colorado (-3) BYU 7:30 PM ABC

Regular Opinion:
Miami, OH (-2.5) Colorado St 4:30 PM The CW
TCU (-10) Louisiana 2:15 PM ESPN
Marquee - Under 40.5 Miami, OH/Colorado St The CW 4:30 PM
Marquee - Under 53.5 UConn/North Carolina 11 AM ESPN
Marquee - Under 47 Boston College/Nebraska Noon ABC
Marquee - Over 55.5 Colorado/BYU 7:30 PM ABC

Had to Pick’em:
North Carolina (-2.5) UConn 11 AM ESPN
NC State (-6.5) East Carolina 5:45 PM Noon
Marquee - Under 44 Army/Louisiana Tech 9:15 PM ESPN
Marquee - Over 59 TCU/Louisiana 2:15 PM ESPN
no goy today
 

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It looks like Steele and his flunky Todd the Turd are up to their old tricks because unless I am reading it wrong, the Bowl Game is NOT today

as they hinted at originally.

The tipoff was today on Comp. Line the Turd said it wold be in the "next few days" whereas before today every indication was it

would be today.

Then again, why should anyone be surprised as extortion, lies and deception have always defined Steele/NC!!
 

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ps For anyone who is not wise to the ways of Steele/NC, the reason that they are so deceptive and misleading as to

when the Bowl GOY is it is that they want and hope by so doing that some folks will purchase one of the Bowl

packages to be sure that they don't miss out on the GOY being given out if they do not sign up for a bigger and more expensive package!!
 

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ps For anyone who is not wise to the ways of Steele/NC, the reason that they are so deceptive and misleading as to

when the Bowl GOY is it is that they want and hope by so doing that some folks will purchase one of the Bowl

packages to be sure that they don't miss out on the GOY being given out if they do not sign up for a bigger and more expensive package!!
And his Bowl GOY could easily cover any one of the CFP games!
 

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Very strange that there are two other NFL games today and not a mention of either.....
Denver at Cincy
Chargers at Patriots

No side or total opinions on either of these???? Pretty sure I've never seen that before.
Perhaps the poster missed them? Doesn't really matter, just a bit strange.
 
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4H Army (-14) Louisiana Tech 9:15 PM ESPN
3H Nebraska (-3) Boston College Noon ABC

Top Opinion:
NFL Marquee - LA Rams (-6.5) Arizona 8 PM NFL Network
Marquee - Over 60.5 East Carolina/NC State Noon ABC
Marquee - Over 58.5 Miami, FL/Iowa State 3:30 PM ABC
Miami, FL (-4.5) Iowa State 3:30 PM ABC
Colorado (-3) BYU 7:30 PM ABC

Regular Opinion:
Miami, OH (-2.5) Colorado St 4:30 PM The CW
TCU (-10) Louisiana 2:15 PM ESPN
Marquee - Under 40.5 Miami, OH/Colorado St The CW 4:30 PM
Marquee - Under 53.5 UConn/North Carolina 11 AM ESPN
Marquee - Under 47 Boston College/Nebraska Noon ABC
Marquee - Over 55.5 Colorado/BYU 7:30 PM ABC

Had to Pick’em:
North Carolina (-2.5) UConn 11 AM ESPN
NC State (-6.5) East Carolina 5:45 PM Noon
Marquee - Under 44 Army/Louisiana Tech 9:15 PM ESPN
Marquee - Over 59 TCU/Louisiana 2:15 PM ESPN
He picked 9 sides and picked all favorites...wow! I know, only his star rated games are the ones that mean a thing but sh*t, all favorites...not going to happen cap'n!
 

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Very strange that there are two other NFL games today and not a mention of either.....
Denver at Cincy
Chargers at Patriots

No side or total opinions on either of these???? Pretty sure I've never seen that before.
Perhaps the poster missed them? Doesn't really matter, just a bit strange.
Good point and I agree.
 

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It looks like we are going to have to wait until tomorrow to find out who they had today as picks were unavailable and have not been posted

at the Sports Monitor.

If I had to guess and knowing the manner in which Steele/NC think andpick, I would think that one of the picks today was Buffalo.
 

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Neither the comp. line nor the Sports Monitor has been updated yet to let us know who Steele/NC officially had yesterday,

My gut feeling is that they went 3-0 or no worse than 2-1, but we will have to wait to be sure.
 

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Neither the comp. line nor the Sports Monitor has been updated yet to let us know who Steele/NC officially had yesterday,

My gut feeling is that they went 3-0 or no worse than 2-1, but we will have to wait to be sure.
Well it turns out I was right in that they did go 2-0 (only two star-rated play which is usual for the NFL) with a 3* on Minnesota and a 3* on

Washington but was wrong as no rated play on Buffalo as I predicted.
 

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Savage....
Also strange if there would be no Late Phone Play on Iowa today.....
Especially given Iowa is a big 4 star selection in Power Sweep.

I'm sure you would agree it would be pretty rare if that should occur.
 

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Savage....
Also strange if there would be no Late Phone Play on Iowa today.....
Especially given Iowa is a big 4 star selection in Power Sweep.

I'm sure you would agree it would be pretty rare if that should occur.
Well, bristolnole-here's the thing:

Even though it is a given that the picks of PowerSweep and NC always agree, in theory thet are supposed to be different.

Also, other than for a few big plays/Games of Something, Steele/NC have always kept the star-rated picks/plays

different from the Marquees for marketing and financial reasons.

Also, keep in mind that for this year the late phone side picks are hitting at around 50% which is a marked improvement over the previous

two years when they were under 40%

The Marquees have done a lot better including this year.

This may mean that NC would rather rate today's obvious Iowa play (even though the game wasn't even mentioned on

comp. line but rather only the Monday night NFL 2* and the Marquee) as a Marquee play to try to build on their

marquee record rather than put it out as a star-rated play which even if it wins, won't impress anyone at this point.

I hope that the above is not too confusing to understand, but suffice it to say, is that all of the NC Late Phone picks and ratings

and Marquees including the Games of Something are all scripted to meet the Steele/ NC marketing names, meaning that in this

case that not much should be made of the 4* rating of Iowa play this afternoon unless of course NC shocks the world and Iowa turns

out to be the BOWL GOY given out on Monday afternoon no less!!

Good luck and thanks for contributing!!
 

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Not confusing at all Savage. I totally get it actually.

Dude, I've been following these guys since the mid 80s. In fact, I actually was a paid customer for their season package for 3 years back then. Extremely expensive. Of course no internet, just newspapers and Power Sweep by snail mail back then. lol
I guess I was fortunate in that the few years I was with them, they actually did quite well - especially in the colleges. One of those years he was actually the #1 service according to the Sports Monitor. Of course back then, Phil Steele was intimately involved and ran the show. He did all the comp lines, the 900 lines, and most of the writing - totally different than the hack outfit it's turned into the past several years, or decades.
So I have always enjoyed your rants over the years. I was reading you over at CM since forever. I get your point about probably making Iowa today just a big Marquee selection. BUT, I stand by the point regarding how incredibly rare it is - a 4 star Power Sweep selection not being at least a 3* LP play.

By the way, you might find it interesting as to why I stopped being a customer despite having 3 straight big winning seasons. My last year, in order to get me to renew, he gave me a 60% guarantee. He said "I must hit at least 60% against your line in the colleges, or I will give you the following season for free." Well alright!! I'm in!!
I kept detailed records, and against my line, he hit 58.9% won/loss, and 59.3% on a star basis. Indeed a great year - but under 60%, at least vs my line. Of course, there were a few games close to the line either way, and he disputed my records and ultimately did not honor the guarantee - in fact, denied he offered it in the first place! Wow. Of course, I walked away pretty disgusted actually. Unfortunately, it was just a verbal guarantee, nothing in writing. I'm thinking it was 1988 or 1989 - somewhere around then. Might've been a bit earlier.
 

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Not confusing at all Savage. I totally get it actually.

Dude, I've been following these guys since the mid 80s. In fact, I actually was a paid customer for their season package for 3 years back then. Extremely expensive. Of course no internet, just newspapers and Power Sweep by snail mail back then. lol
I guess I was fortunate in that the few years I was with them, they actually did quite well - especially in the colleges. One of those years he was actually the #1 service according to the Sports Monitor. Of course back then, Phil Steele was intimately involved and ran the show. He did all the comp lines, the 900 lines, and most of the writing - totally different than the hack outfit it's turned into the past several years, or decades.
So I have always enjoyed your rants over the years. I was reading you over at CM since forever. I get your point about probably making Iowa today just a big Marquee selection. BUT, I stand by the point regarding how incredibly rare it is - a 4 star Power Sweep selection not being at least a 3* LP play.

By the way, you might find it interesting as to why I stopped being a customer despite having 3 straight big winning seasons. My last year, in order to get me to renew, he gave me a 60% guarantee. He said "I must hit at least 60% against your line in the colleges, or I will give you the following season for free." Well alright!! I'm in!!
I kept detailed records, and against my line, he hit 58.9% won/loss, and 59.3% on a star basis. Indeed a great year - but under 60%, at least vs my line. Of course, there were a few games close to the line either way, and he disputed my records and ultimately did not honor the guarantee - in fact, denied he offered it in the first place! Wow. Of course, I walked away pretty disgusted actually. Unfortunately, it was just a verbal guarantee, nothing in writing. I'm thinking it was 1988 or 1989 - somewhere around then. Might've been a bit earlier.
Great story, bristolnole, and especially from someone who has followed them as long as I have!!

I agree with you wholeheartedly that way back when Steele was the go to guy way back when before internet, gambling sites, etc.

Asas you know there were also folks who claimed to be the best service out there like Mike Warren, the Professor, Feist, etc and of

course the ultimate scammer Stu Feiner.

While I never purchased a subscription to any of the NC services, I did purchase PowerSweep for a season or two and

on occasion did call their 900 number for a big play when there was no other way to get it.

I am sure your point on Iowa is valid as you probably have more overall experience with PowerSweep than I do!!

Your story about being cheated if not hitting 60% is not surprising although personally I can't remember any instances of Steele

offering an entire season for free if not hitting 60%.

By the way, was the 60% deal for PowerSweep or for Executive Service??

If it was just for PowerSweep, I can ALMOST believe he would make an offer like that and honor it, but if it was for the more costly Late

Phones/Executive Services, imo it was entirely out of character because Steele is cheap, and the various "discounts" he offers

are bogus because they are always based off vastly inflated MSRP services to begin with!!

Best of luck, please continue to contribute and Happy New Year!!

ps I won't comment on CM other than to say that when I look back at it, DICTATOR Wayne probably did me a big favor by permanently

banning me and releasing me from his bondage!!

It is always great to hear from folks like you and Alcatraz who know the entire story with Steele/NC!!
 

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