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Getting in a car drunk is an accident? Taking your eyes purposely off the road is an accident? Driving at excessive speeds is accidental? And that's why vehicle death killings are all "accidents".
 

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We should also ban spoons too right?? It is the #1 cause of death here in the United States. Spoons cause heart disease, obesity and a ton of other health concerns.
 

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He's thinking, "At some point I will end this thread with 6 straight articles about gun control. Bonus points if I can somehow blow Glenn Greenwald, call Snowden a hero and Obama a warmonger during the process."

Bottom Feeding Scum Tout chiming in with his irrelevant nonsense again. Maybe it's time for you to cry again how you're going to not deal with me down here because it's so unpleasant.
 
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We should also ban spoons too right?? It is the #1 cause of death here in the United States. Spoons cause heart disease, obesity and a ton of other health concerns.

I don't agree with Guesser here, but you can't compare something like spoons with guns. Heart disease, obesity and health issues only harm you. Guns are used to harm others as well as yourself.
 

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Is it supposed to be earth shattering or shocking that a country of 5 million, Finland, has substantially fewer gun deaths than a country of 320 million? I'm not saying we don't have a gun violence issue in our country but this graphic is a joke.

It's making a damn accurate point. If we only had 64 times the gun murders as Finland, then it would be a joke. The fact that we had 558 times their murders is quite shocking and telling.
 

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Getting in a car drunk is an accident? Taking your eyes purposely off the road is an accident? Driving at excessive speeds is accidental? And that's why vehicle death killings are all "accidents".

The intent to kill is not present in any of your examples.

Look up the definition of "intent."
 
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It's making a damn accurate point. If we only had 64 times the gun murders as Finland, then it would be a joke. The fact that we had 558 times their murders is quite shocking and telling.

My point is your graphic is intended to shock with the idea that we have 558x the gun murders that Finland does when in realty we are actually about 10x when adjusted for population. Still not good, but your graphic is intended to mislead.
 

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I don't agree with Guesser here, but you can't compare something like spoons with guns. Heart disease, obesity and health issues only harm you. Guns are used to harm others as well as yourself.

Point I am making is that PEOPLE make choices to do the things they do. It isn't guns, cars, or for that matter SPOONS. Those inanimate objects aren't responsible for what they do, its the people in control of them that are to blame.

That's the point I am making.
 

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Bottom Feeding Scum Tout chiming in with his irrelevant nonsense again. Maybe it's time for you to cry again how you're going to not deal with me down here because it's so unpleasant.

Unpleasant as a Taco Bell Fart in a locked Spammymobile. I try Spammy. Really I do. But you keep posting the same thoughtless, knee-jerk idiotic Bullshit in reaction to everything that happens in the world. Like a Fucking Robot. So being human sometimes I slip up.
 

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Why did they leave out the gun murder statistics in places like:

Columbia?
South Africa?
Honduras?
Other places with higher gun murder rates then the United states?

You know, places like that? Didn't fit the agenda? Cherry Picking data?
 

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My point is your graphic is intended to shock with the idea that we have 558x the gun murders that Finland does when in realty we are actually about 10x when adjusted for population. Still not good, but your graphic is intended to mislead.

It's intended to show that gun murders in the US are disgustingly high when compared to those other countries. It achieves it's purpose. If it was inaccurate, it would be intending to mislead.
 
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Point I am making is that PEOPLE make choices to do the things they do. It isn't guns, cars, or for that matter SPOONS. Those inanimate objects aren't responsible for what they do, its the people in control of them that are to blame.

That's the point I am making.

I agree with that point, but the counter argument is always going to be it's too easy for a lunatic to get his hands on a weapon that makes it easy to harm others. You'll never have that problem with a spoon.
 

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Unpleasant as a Taco Bell Fart in a locked Spammymobile. I try Spammy. Really I do. But you keep posting the same thoughtless, knee-jerk idiotic Bullshit in reaction to everything that happens in the world. Like a Fucking Robot. So being human sometimes I slip up.

Try harder Tout.
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Why did they leave out the gun murder statistics in places like:

Columbia?
South Africa?
Honduras?
Other places with higher gun murder rates then the United states?

You know, places like that? Didn't fit the agenda? Cherry Picking data?

Everyone would agree that the countries you listed are uncivilized. The countries in the graphic are Western democracies.

Which is the USA?
 
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It's intended to show that gun murders in the US are disgustingly high when compared to those other countries. It achieves it's purpose. If it was inaccurate, it would be intending to mislead.

You're kidding right? It's misleading. It's intended to make it seem like our gun problem is 558x worse than Finland when in reality it's about 10x worse. Big difference. If I was discussing infant mortality in different countries I would compare them in terms of infant mortality rate, deaths of infants under one year old per 1,000 live births. I wouldn't compare the total number of infant deaths under one in each country. Those results would be misleading.
 

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You're kidding right? It's misleading. It's intended to make it seem like our gun problem is 558x worse than Finland when in reality it's about 10x worse. Big difference. If I was discussing infant mortality in different countries I would compare them in terms of infant mortality rate, deaths of infants under one year old per 1,000 live births. I wouldn't compare the total number of infant deaths under one in each country. Those results would be misleading.
It would only be misleading if someone reading it thinks the population of the US = The population of Finland. It's making a valid point. If someone wants to do further research to find out % per thousand people in each country, or whatever, there is nothing stopping them from doing so.
 

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where do those crimes in America occur? in poor urban cities where the family core has been destroyed by libtarded policies, in urban areas run by democrats, in urban areas that keep democrats in office at local, state and national levels.

how many such communities exist in any of the nations listed? a fraction of what we have

two parents, raise your kids together, become educated and teach them to be responsible. Stop telling them they're victims and they're at a disadvantage and that racism is holding them back, otherwise they'll never escape their crime ridden lives in poverty

libtarded thinking is so fucking backwards

and libtards like guesser compound their mistakes by making it harder for law abiding citizens to possess guns, as if criminals and sick people won't buy a gun illegally

"oh boy, I can't buy that gun to murder people, because owning it would be illegal"



change the culture of democratic strongholds, remove democratic leaders from office in the cities they destroyed, get new ideas, change their value system, sniff a fucking clue

taking guns away from law abiding citizens will not fix the problems of poor inner city neighborhoods, THINK for once in your life
Seems early reports talk about his conservative and racist views....you might wanna wait a little bit before you start blaming liberals for these shootings.
 

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Everyone would agree that the countries you listed are uncivilized. The countries in the graphic are Western democracies.

Which is the USA?

Ok, then here are some DEVOLPOED/CIVILIZED countries that lead the US on gun murders per capita - In order

Brazil
Mexico
Russia
Chile

So, why aren't those on the list?
 

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Here come the fucking idiots, out in full force.

Because someone committed homicide with a gun, that means nobody should own guns. Excellent t logic!

Incredibly ironically...about 20 mins ago, I got off the phone with a friend of mine. Have known her for probably 25+ years now...since childhood. She lives alone and started going out with a guy about a month ago. This guy had a GF she didn't know about until a few days ago. Just today at 6am, she woke up after hearing someone break into her place. Turns out it was this guy's psycho bitch GF who was coming to confront her, and she had a knife on her. The only thing that may have prevented something extremely ugly from happening is the fact that my friend owns a gun..and carried it with her after she called 911. The cops are still sorting everything out. And I'm pretty sure she isn't going to take the gun to the nearest church and open fire since the left likes to pretend that's what everyone who owns a gun does.

As as far as this murder...the victims were all black? What the hell difference does that make? I think anyone who murders anyone else, regardless of color, is a POS coward. He deserves to be skinned alive, and the race of his victims are completely irrelevant to anything.
 

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Many gun control advocates prefer to look at only firearm homicides, not total murders. The United States has neither the highest firearm homicide rates for all countries or for developed countries. Among OECD countries, Mexico has the highest firearms homicide rate, with a rate about 3 times higher than the US rate. Brazil’s and Russia’s are much higher, though Russia does not report firearm homicides so it is only a guess for that country.

By the way, despite Israel and Switzerland having very high gun possession rates, their firearm homicide rates are extremely low. In the data shown below, Switzerland had a firearms homicide rate of 0.77 per 100,000 people and Israel has a rate of just 0.09 per 100,000.

Note that there are many countries that clearly have higher gun homicide rates than the United States that don’t have data available. Indeed, while 192 countries report total homicides, only 116 countries report firearm homicides. The average homicide rate for the countries that don’t have firearm homicides is 11.1 per 100,000. The median homicide rate for those that are missing is 8.7 per 100,000. Among the countries with higher homicide rates is Russia with a homicide rate of 11.6. The bottom line is that the countries that are missing the data are among the worst homicide countries.

Again, all the concerns provided over relying on cross-sectional data still apply here. In addition, the firearm homicide data is not available for many of the countries with the highest homicide rates, suggesting that this cross-sectional comparison is even more misleading than the discussion on homicides
 

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