THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS CALLED A GOAL IN ANY GIVEN GAME DURING THE REGULAR SEASON. NO WAY. YOU CANNOT CALL THAT A GOAL UNLESS THERE IS CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE WHOLE PUCK CROSSED THE LINE. THEY EVEN SAID THAT THE OFFICIALS TOOK A GOOD LOOK AT IT AND ONLY ONE CAMERA ANGLE SAW THAT, WHERE THE REST DIDN'T SEE THAT.
NO WAY IS THAT A GOAL IN THIS ERA.. NO WAY. NO WAY.. AND WHOEVER IS SAYING THAT IS SAYING IT WITH THEIR HEARTS BECAUSE THEY WANTED CALGARY TO WIN FOR SOME SORT OF REASON.. NO WAY THAT WAS CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH TO BE A GOAL.. NO WAY. THE OFFICIALS DID TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM NUMEROUS ANGLES AND NO ONE WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS A GOAL.. NO WAY..
BRING ON GAME 7 IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.. I'M OUTTA HERE. TB WILL WIN THE CUP, SO NO NEED TO EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS GOAL OR NON GOAL ANYMORE..
NO WAY IS THAT A GOAL IN THIS ERA.. NO WAY. NO WAY.. AND WHOEVER IS SAYING THAT IS SAYING IT WITH THEIR HEARTS BECAUSE THEY WANTED CALGARY TO WIN FOR SOME SORT OF REASON.. NO WAY THAT WAS CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH TO BE A GOAL.. NO WAY. THE OFFICIALS DID TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM NUMEROUS ANGLES AND NO ONE WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS A GOAL.. NO WAY..
BRING ON GAME 7 IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.. I'M OUTTA HERE. TB WILL WIN THE CUP, SO NO NEED TO EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS GOAL OR NON GOAL ANYMORE..
sick gambler,
Do us all a favour and stfu. You usually amuse me with your jive, but you're just being an idiot with regard to this issue.
You've been going on and on and on about Tampa winning the Cup. You were totally out to lunch. Calgary has been the better team and have been royally screwed by the NHL officials. You claim to know hockey, ran your mouth like crazy when the hockey contest began, then quit when you got rocked (by me). If you know hockey, you know those penalties on Conroy have no ****ing business being called in a game of this magnitude. Or the 5 on 3 the other night. Or the suspension to Niemenen on a hit Lecavalier turned into and made himself vulnerable on. Then the coup de grace, the Stanley Cup GWG fiasco.
A fiasco indeed, because the officials didn't realize it was a goal until the play had begun again, then come up with this "inconclusive" crap to cover themselves. Colin Campbell should be fired. The Brett Hull goal was the same cowardly NHL bull shit... they didn't have the guts to right their wrong (when the crease rule was ZERO tolerance) after the Dallas players had rushed onto the ice to celebrate.
I've made a frigging fortune already on the Flames, and stand to make a lot more if Iginla is awarded the Conn Smythe. I had no action on the game last night aside from a Richards over Modin prop which I've been milking all series.
I just hate seeing the Flames get screwed like that.
By the way, Sutter was smart to say it was inconclusive. You think he actually feels that way? Give me a break. He's just not making it an issue so the players can focus on Game 7. You'll get his real opinion after the series is over.
I bet you and F-Head also believed that Lakers' player got that shot off with 4 tenths of a second left against San Antonio. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Do us all a favour and stfu. You usually amuse me with your jive, but you're just being an idiot with regard to this issue.
You've been going on and on and on about Tampa winning the Cup. You were totally out to lunch. Calgary has been the better team and have been royally screwed by the NHL officials. You claim to know hockey, ran your mouth like crazy when the hockey contest began, then quit when you got rocked (by me). If you know hockey, you know those penalties on Conroy have no ****ing business being called in a game of this magnitude. Or the 5 on 3 the other night. Or the suspension to Niemenen on a hit Lecavalier turned into and made himself vulnerable on. Then the coup de grace, the Stanley Cup GWG fiasco.
A fiasco indeed, because the officials didn't realize it was a goal until the play had begun again, then come up with this "inconclusive" crap to cover themselves. Colin Campbell should be fired. The Brett Hull goal was the same cowardly NHL bull shit... they didn't have the guts to right their wrong (when the crease rule was ZERO tolerance) after the Dallas players had rushed onto the ice to celebrate.
I've made a frigging fortune already on the Flames, and stand to make a lot more if Iginla is awarded the Conn Smythe. I had no action on the game last night aside from a Richards over Modin prop which I've been milking all series.
I just hate seeing the Flames get screwed like that.
By the way, Sutter was smart to say it was inconclusive. You think he actually feels that way? Give me a break. He's just not making it an issue so the players can focus on Game 7. You'll get his real opinion after the series is over.
I bet you and F-Head also believed that Lakers' player got that shot off with 4 tenths of a second left against San Antonio. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Will it be Jarome Iginla or Brad Richards? Either goaltender would also be a good choice.
Not only will the Stanley Cup be decided Monday night when the Calgary Flames face the Tampa Bay Lightning in Game 7 but the Conn Smythe Trophy will also be awarded to the most valuable player in the playoffs.
Iginla leads Calgary with 13 goals and nine assists for 22 points in 25 playoff games. In the first six games of the final series, the Flames captain has three goals and two assists.
His short-handed goal in Game 1, where he collected his own rebound on a breakaway, then rifled it into the net, has been a highlight reel staple. On many nights Iginla, an Edmonton native who turns 27 on July 1, has been the heart of the Flames improbable run to the championship game.
"That's why he's one of the best players in the league," said Tampa Bay captain Dave Andreychuk. "Those are the guys you talk about that get to the next level in the playoffs.
"He has been a strong player."
When Richards strikes, the Lightning win. It's that simple. He already has set a Stanley Cup record with seven game-winning goals in the playoffs.
Tampa Bay is 9-0 in the playoffs when the native of Murray Harbour, P.E.I., scores. During the regular season the Lightning were 31-0-2 when he turned on the red light.
Richards, 24, scored twice on the power play and assisted on Martin St. Louis' winning goal in the Lightning's 3-2 double overtime victory Saturday night which forced Game 7. He leads the playoff scoring with 25 points (12 goals, 13 assists).
"He's a young up-and-coming star," said Tampa's Chris Dingman. ``This is where guys make a name for themselves."
If Iginla is the brass band at the front of the Flames playoff parade, goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff is the violin soloist.
Quick and subtle, the native of Turku, Finland, has a 15-10 record, recorded five shutouts and has a 1.85 goals-against average.
John Davidson, the former New York Ranger goaltender who now is a hockey analyst for ABC, said it's difficult to pick between Kiprusoff and Iginla.
"They both carry the team," said Davidson. "If there ever was a season where there should be a co-shared award, this would be it.
"I can't sit here and say one has been more valuable than the other."
Tampa's Nikolai Khabibulin has numbers that mirror Kiprusoff's. In 22 playoff games, the native of Sverdlovsk, Russia, is 15-7 with five shutouts and a 1.74 GAA.
"He's playing at the top of his game," said Richards. "He has done a great job.
"He's consistent every game."
Other players from both teams also deserve consideration.
Quietly, Andrew Ference has been strong on the Flames defence. Forward Martin Gelinas scored overtime goals that won the series against Vancouver and Detroit.
For the Lightning, St. Louis is second in playoff scoring with 24 points, including 15 assists. His goal Saturday night put Tampa Bay into position to win its first Stanley Cup.
The Conn Smythe is awarded to the most valuable player for his team in the playoffs. The winner is selected by the Professional Hockey Writers' Association and receives $10,000 (U.S.).
Last year's winner was goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks.
Toronto Star.
Not only will the Stanley Cup be decided Monday night when the Calgary Flames face the Tampa Bay Lightning in Game 7 but the Conn Smythe Trophy will also be awarded to the most valuable player in the playoffs.
Iginla leads Calgary with 13 goals and nine assists for 22 points in 25 playoff games. In the first six games of the final series, the Flames captain has three goals and two assists.
His short-handed goal in Game 1, where he collected his own rebound on a breakaway, then rifled it into the net, has been a highlight reel staple. On many nights Iginla, an Edmonton native who turns 27 on July 1, has been the heart of the Flames improbable run to the championship game.
"That's why he's one of the best players in the league," said Tampa Bay captain Dave Andreychuk. "Those are the guys you talk about that get to the next level in the playoffs.
"He has been a strong player."
When Richards strikes, the Lightning win. It's that simple. He already has set a Stanley Cup record with seven game-winning goals in the playoffs.
Tampa Bay is 9-0 in the playoffs when the native of Murray Harbour, P.E.I., scores. During the regular season the Lightning were 31-0-2 when he turned on the red light.
Richards, 24, scored twice on the power play and assisted on Martin St. Louis' winning goal in the Lightning's 3-2 double overtime victory Saturday night which forced Game 7. He leads the playoff scoring with 25 points (12 goals, 13 assists).
"He's a young up-and-coming star," said Tampa's Chris Dingman. ``This is where guys make a name for themselves."
If Iginla is the brass band at the front of the Flames playoff parade, goaltender Miikka Kiprusoff is the violin soloist.
Quick and subtle, the native of Turku, Finland, has a 15-10 record, recorded five shutouts and has a 1.85 goals-against average.
John Davidson, the former New York Ranger goaltender who now is a hockey analyst for ABC, said it's difficult to pick between Kiprusoff and Iginla.
"They both carry the team," said Davidson. "If there ever was a season where there should be a co-shared award, this would be it.
"I can't sit here and say one has been more valuable than the other."
Tampa's Nikolai Khabibulin has numbers that mirror Kiprusoff's. In 22 playoff games, the native of Sverdlovsk, Russia, is 15-7 with five shutouts and a 1.74 GAA.
"He's playing at the top of his game," said Richards. "He has done a great job.
"He's consistent every game."
Other players from both teams also deserve consideration.
Quietly, Andrew Ference has been strong on the Flames defence. Forward Martin Gelinas scored overtime goals that won the series against Vancouver and Detroit.
For the Lightning, St. Louis is second in playoff scoring with 24 points, including 15 assists. His goal Saturday night put Tampa Bay into position to win its first Stanley Cup.
The Conn Smythe is awarded to the most valuable player for his team in the playoffs. The winner is selected by the Professional Hockey Writers' Association and receives $10,000 (U.S.).
Last year's winner was goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks.
Toronto Star.
FWIW-
I do believe the Flames got the short end of the stick on the 5 on 3 penalty in the 1-0 game and didnt deserve that.
I also think the suspension was way to harsh for a complete game suspension warrented.
However, I still say the goal in question last night cannot be proved without a shadow of a doubt that it was indeed in...........a tough break for the Flames for sure.
May the best team win on Monday.
Which should be the Lightning.
I do believe the Flames got the short end of the stick on the 5 on 3 penalty in the 1-0 game and didnt deserve that.
I also think the suspension was way to harsh for a complete game suspension warrented.
However, I still say the goal in question last night cannot be proved without a shadow of a doubt that it was indeed in...........a tough break for the Flames for sure.
May the best team win on Monday.
Which should be the Lightning.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHACHI BOY.. I FINISHED IN THE TOP 20 IN THE HOCKEY CONTEST OUT OF A FIELD OF 140.. I ONLY QUIT BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK I HAD A CHANCE TO WIN IT, AND I PREDICTED IN DEC THAT THE WINNER WOULD END UP WITH ANYWHERES FROM 35 TO 43 UNITS, WHICH I CALLED BANG ON.
I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT MY KNOWLEDGE OF HOCKEY..I HAVE FOLLOWED THIS GAME FOR 35 SOLID YEARS AND HAVE WATCHED OVER 100,000 GAMES.. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP ARGUING THAT THAT WAS A GOAL, WHEN IN FACT, WE BOTH KNOW THAT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU CAN CALL THAT CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH TO DECIDE A GAME, LET ALONE A STANLEY CUP. IF EVERY ANGLE SAW THAT PUCK GO IN, I WOULD SAY OK LET IT COUNT. BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY ANGLE THAT SAW THAT.. THEREFORE, INCONCLUSIVE.. SORRY CHACHI.. NOW GO SPEND SOME MORE TIME WITH JOANIE AND SAY HI TO UNCLE FONZIE BECAUSE THE BOLTS WIN THE CUP TOMORROW, AND DON'T FORGET THAT.. I SEE WHY YOU ARE UPSET BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IF CALGARY HAD WON YESTERDAY, YOUR IGINLA FOR CONN SMYTHE WOULD HAVE LOOKED GOOD. INSTEAD, IT'S LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE ST-LOUIS, OR RICHARDS. SORRY CHACHI, BUT NO GOAL... LOOKS LIKE I WILL BE WATCHING MY OLD PAL FISHHEAD ON TV AT THE STANLEY CUP PARADE IN TB..
I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT MY KNOWLEDGE OF HOCKEY..I HAVE FOLLOWED THIS GAME FOR 35 SOLID YEARS AND HAVE WATCHED OVER 100,000 GAMES.. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP ARGUING THAT THAT WAS A GOAL, WHEN IN FACT, WE BOTH KNOW THAT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU CAN CALL THAT CONCLUSIVE ENOUGH TO DECIDE A GAME, LET ALONE A STANLEY CUP. IF EVERY ANGLE SAW THAT PUCK GO IN, I WOULD SAY OK LET IT COUNT. BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY ANGLE THAT SAW THAT.. THEREFORE, INCONCLUSIVE.. SORRY CHACHI.. NOW GO SPEND SOME MORE TIME WITH JOANIE AND SAY HI TO UNCLE FONZIE BECAUSE THE BOLTS WIN THE CUP TOMORROW, AND DON'T FORGET THAT.. I SEE WHY YOU ARE UPSET BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IF CALGARY HAD WON YESTERDAY, YOUR IGINLA FOR CONN SMYTHE WOULD HAVE LOOKED GOOD. INSTEAD, IT'S LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE ST-LOUIS, OR RICHARDS. SORRY CHACHI, BUT NO GOAL... LOOKS LIKE I WILL BE WATCHING MY OLD PAL FISHHEAD ON TV AT THE STANLEY CUP PARADE IN TB..
2 very important points are being missed on this play.
1) If the review did show that the puck was in, they would then have to determine if Gelinas kicked it in.
2) Even after they dropped the puck the play could still be reviewed. As per NHL rules if they played an additional 5 minutes before the officials upstairs determined it to be a goal then the clock would go back to the time the goal was scored. Its not like football where once the next play begins its unreviewable.
Calgary did get screwed in the 1-0 game when Tampa Bay had that 5 on 3 early on. Of all the games you hockey guys watched this year how many times did you see a team get called for 2 different infractions on the same play. I have seen numerous worse cases where a deleayed pentaly was being called and another obvious infraction took place but was ignored by the worse officials in all of sports. In saying that Calgary did have 55 minutes to tie the game so basically even though the refs gave Tampa a BIG break, the Flames had more than enough time to make the goal up.
Onto Game 7, look for another tight 3-2 or 2-1 game. Just remember though, once Brad Richards scores you can start celebrating in St.Pete!
1) If the review did show that the puck was in, they would then have to determine if Gelinas kicked it in.
2) Even after they dropped the puck the play could still be reviewed. As per NHL rules if they played an additional 5 minutes before the officials upstairs determined it to be a goal then the clock would go back to the time the goal was scored. Its not like football where once the next play begins its unreviewable.
Calgary did get screwed in the 1-0 game when Tampa Bay had that 5 on 3 early on. Of all the games you hockey guys watched this year how many times did you see a team get called for 2 different infractions on the same play. I have seen numerous worse cases where a deleayed pentaly was being called and another obvious infraction took place but was ignored by the worse officials in all of sports. In saying that Calgary did have 55 minutes to tie the game so basically even though the refs gave Tampa a BIG break, the Flames had more than enough time to make the goal up.
Onto Game 7, look for another tight 3-2 or 2-1 game. Just remember though, once Brad Richards scores you can start celebrating in St.Pete!
