NFL Top 100 players of 2022 (as voted by the players) -- Tom Brady No. 1

[Avocado33]

The GOAT at age 45 is voted as #1. Pretty damn cool

Top 100 Players of 2022, Nos. 10-1: Tom Brady No. 1 one more time

It's that time of year again, when NFL players cast their votes to identify the best in the league heading into the 2022 NFL season. Which 10 players make up Nos. 10-1?

www.nfl.com

 

[Michelangelo]

The GOAT at age 45 is voted as #1. Pretty damn cool

Top 100 Players of 2022, Nos. 10-1: Tom Brady No. 1 one more time

It's that time of year again, when NFL players cast their votes to identify the best in the league heading into the 2022 NFL season. Which 10 players make up Nos. 10-1?

www.nfl.com

I'm a biased Pats fan. But it sure would be hard to argue with that pick.

I'm glad that the accolade is coming from his peers.

I don't know if its the same countdown but I saw a top 100 on the NFL channel. They had comments from some of the players who voted. It was pretty cool to hear how they worded their praise for the top guys selected.

 

[exploited17]

It is ability as of this year and Brady IS NOT number 1
He may be the GOAT all time but he is not currently the best player
NOPE

 

[Michelangelo]

It is ability as of this year and Brady IS NOT number 1
He may be the GOAT all time but he is not currently the best player
NOPE

Pretty sure this "Top 100" was based off last year's production. The NFL players voted. He won. I wouldn't trust them to vote on anything but this. But this is their wheelhouse.

And personally I think they got it right. It never ceases to amaze me how lots of people don't understand what he brings to a team and huddle. The players do.

Who would you and Redeye put before him based on last year's body of work?

 

[REDEYE]

Pretty sure this "Top 100" was based off last year's production. The NFL players voted. He won. I wouldn't trust them to vote on anything but this. But this is their wheelhouse.

And personally I think they got it right. It never ceases to amaze me how lots of people don't understand what he brings to a team and huddle. The players do.

Who would you and Redeye put before him based on last year's body of work?

Quite a few players .... you're pretty much saying that you would take Brady over any player in the league. I'd take Rodgers, Herbert ,and Allen before I would take Brady

I saw that list , saw quite a few I would disagree with

 

[exploited17]

Pretty sure this "Top 100" was based off last year's production. The NFL players voted. He won. I wouldn't trust them to vote on anything but this. But this is their wheelhouse.

And personally I think they got it right. It never ceases to amaze me how lots of people don't understand what he brings to a team and huddle. The players do.

Who would you and Redeye put before him based on last year's body of work?

Mahomes and Allen all day at the least. Probably Rodgers
You could argue a few more
He is still good and top 10 as Qb rules the day
But no fucking way #1

 

[REDEYE]

Mahomes and Allen all day at the least. Probably Rodgers
You could argue a few more
He is still good and top 10 as Qb rules the day
But no fucking way #1

Mahomes for me also.

 

[Avocado33]

It's pretty reasonable to say Brady outperformed both Mahomes and Allen last year

We reallllllly need to pump the breaks on Allen

Maybe Brady falls off a bit this year but based on talent + all the intangible shit, I think he's deserving of it

 

[Avocado33]

Josh Allen is only in that top 5 QB conversation really because of his running ability, which at the same time could a tool that greatly diminishes over times

He's not elite in terms of throwing/accuracy (though he has gotten better)

 

[REDEYE]

Josh Allen is only in that top 5 QB conversation really because of his running ability, which at the same time could a tool that greatly diminishes over times

He's not elite in terms of throwing/accuracy (though he has gotten better)

Allen is the preseason MVP ... That would be a good indicator of how he is judged, and where he belongs in top qb conversations

 

[Avocado33]

Allen is the preseason MVP ... That would be a good indicator of how he is judged, and where he belongs in top qb conversations

Him being the preseason MVP favorite is a combo of him and his team being overvalued

He's good, but I don't see how he's better than Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert.

They're all pretty close to each other IMO but I give Brady the nod for now

 

[REDEYE]

Him being the preseason MVP favorite is a combo of him and his team being overvalued

He's good, but I don't see how he's better than Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert.

They're all pretty close to each other IMO but I give Brady the nod for now

He might be overvalued from a betting perspective , but doesn't change the fact that he is the favorite.

I think they got it right, Herbert #2 in quite a few shops. Can't argue with that either. Both are studs. Mahomes has regressed some , Rodgers has a trifecta working against him , Brady going to have a tough year , he's probably the QB that can't survive a bad OL, with his lack of mobility.
Burrow has more to prove imo , that frame of his would have me worried about future injuries and taking hits.
I'd put Stafford and Wilson ahead of Burrow. More proven and maybe a career MVP is in order with a great year. Just my opinion. Taylor fits in there somewhere also.

 

[Avocado33]

He might be overvalued from a betting perspective , but doesn't change the fact that he is the favorite.

I think they got it right, Herbert #2 in quite a few shops. Can't argue with that either. Both are studs. Mahomes has regressed some , Rodgers has a trifecta working against him , Brady going to have a tough year , he's probably the QB that can't survive a bad OL, with his lack of mobility.
Burrow has more to prove imo , that frame of his would have me worried about future injuries and taking hits.
I'd put Stafford and Wilson ahead of Burrow. More proven and maybe a career MVP is in order with a great year. Just my opinion. Taylor fits in there somewhere also.

Interesting take

I guess the first thing I'd say is how does Burrow has more to prove, but Herbert doesn't. Burrow averaged 8.9 yards per attempt in a pretty pass-heavy offense last year with the weakest offensive line of the other 5 QBs I mentioned (Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert). Burrow actually dominated that category over those guys. The margins were pretty remarkable.

For perspective, this was their yards per attempt:

Burrow 8.9
Rodgers 7.7
Herbert 7.5
Brady 7.3
Mahomes 7.4
Allen 6.8

He led the league in that, as well as completion percentage -- which is noteworthy given that Burrow wasn't doing much dinking and dunking.

Burrow 70.4%
Rodgers 68.9%
Brady 67.5%
Mahomes 66.3%
Herbert 65.9%
Allen 63.3%

Burrow has also had playoff success. Just his second year and he's already taken a historically bad franchise to the Super Bowl and completely changed the culture.

To me, Herbert is the one who has the most to prove/is the more unknown. He's looked great and is clearly talented, but I think Burrow should be considered a better QB at this point than him.

With odds stuff, I think Bills and Chargers in general are pretty overvalued. MVP is obviously a function of team success. Chargers historically have good teams on paper and find ways to disappoint/not live up to expectations. Happened last year, and probably will happen this year too.

 

[Avocado33]

Yeah the more I look at it, the more I don't really understand it

Herbert did eclipse 5,000 yards I guess, but he also threw 152 more passes than Burrow. Burrow also sat the final game of the season. Yards per game was close to even -- though Herbert did have a slight edge (294.9 vs 288.2)

Not really seeing any other definitive edges that Herbert has. He's a little stronger arm wise I suppose, but Burrow is definitely more accurate of a passer.

Burrow pretty objectively more efficient

He also has all the intangible shit working in his favor too. Herbert hasn't really had opportunity to shine in that regard though

2021 really the only valid thing to compare them on given that Burrow basically played with a practice squad in 2020. Bad roster with injury issues

Herbert also had the much better O-line

Kinda just rambling now but it's definitely an interesting topic

 

[raiders72]

Rodgers
Allen
Brady
Herbert
Mahomes
Burrow

 

[Willie99]

I think the players understand it's more than arm strength or physical talent

It's about leadership and WINNING. Hence Brady still rated highly

It's a poll of players, can't overlook that

 

[Avocado33]

It's about leadership and WINNING.

Yep. Winning kinda the whole fucking point

Brady is good at doing that and getting his teams to buy in. Think Burrow is the same way

 

[exploited17]

Stats are not everything. Have to consider age even though Brady has bucked the trend of aging
Plus, this whole hiatus thing and whatever issues he has. I know that maybe was not considered as this is based off last year but I am considering it

 

[Avocado33]

Stats are not everything. Have to consider age even though Brady has bucked the trend of aging
Plus, this whole hiatus thing and whatever issues he has. I know that maybe was not considered as this is based off last year but I am considering it

Stats not being everything strengthens the Brady argument though

He clearly does things that aren't captured by the stat sheet.

The age thing could be a factor but to this point hasn't. His play hasn't diminished at all really

What does the hiatus have to do with anything lol guy was gone for less than 2 weeks for family shit haha

 

[REDEYE]

Him being the preseason MVP favorite is a combo of him and his team being overvalued

He's good, but I don't see how he's better than Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Herbert.

They're all pretty close to each other IMO but I give Brady the nod for now

MVP odds are pretty close at the moment to my rankings of these QBs. Most favorites are overvalued , doesn't mean they don't belong as the favorite. It means the wagering public like Allen going into the season.