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do you think they're doing a good job

  • yes, they're doing great

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • Roger the new rules are ruining the game, not the refs

    Votes: 7 20.0%
  • refs have morphed into game changing idiots

    Votes: 22 62.9%
  • nothing has changed, it's played the same way it's always been played

    Votes: 4 11.4%

  • Total voters
    35

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I think the rules are as bad as the officiating..i dont blame the officials in some instances for grey area murky worded rules
 

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Willie, were you voted "most likely to use hyperbole" by your high school classmates?
Or perhaps "most likely to post a poll no one cares about on a gambling forum?"


you're just not very observant, are you?

did I "hurt" your feelings? do you actually believe gamblers don't care about officials? damn, that makes you less observant than you appear to be

your homework assignment, google "irony"



oh, and yes, we all have a license to embellish just a tad to help us make what should be an obvious point
 

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my next poll, who voted that they're doing a great job?

1) JC, because he's defending them
2) GTC08IQ, because his IQ is 08
3) Vlad, because most refs are white
4) Wilbur, because he didn't understand the question
5) BAS, being a Jets fan made him punch drunk

LOL you goofy fucker.
 

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I think the rules are as bad as the officiating..i dont blame the officials in some instances for grey area murky worded rules

absolutely part of the problem, bureaucrats in board rooms trying to improve the game, as if they actually know something
 

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Do I believe gamblers don't care about officials? No, of course they do. Gamblers always have to assign blame for their shitty beats. It's akin to complaining about bad weather.
Deal with it. No one likes whiners
They have already taken steps to make the Command Center able to override
What other solution do you have?
 

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does anyone think they're doing a good job?

I don't think they are doing a terrible job. Some of the rules are open to interpretation leading to inconsistent calls. One thing that bothers me is the refs take a lot of shit from both the players and coaches. They are constantly getting bitched at and rarely do they flag the players or coaches. In hoops you can call a "T" to calm things down but the constant bitching has to have an impact on the calls they make. It's an emotional game but damn the refs seem like they are always catching hell about something. Sooner or later they have to make a call just to shut the bench and coaches up......and usually it is a bullshit call that had no impact on the play.

They lack respect from the players and coaches. The inmates are running the asylum.
 

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Do I believe gamblers don't care about officials? No, of course they do. Gamblers always have to assign blame for their shitty beats. It's akin to complaining about bad weather.
Deal with it. No one likes whiners
They have already taken steps to make the Command Center able to override
What other solution do you have?

implement a simple concept, no advantage gained or lost, no foul, especially when it's something soft away from the play

more common sense, a finger braising the helmet is not a blow to the head

get rid of their equivalence of the freedom of motion rules, where "sometimes" just breathing on the receivers is a foul

take away all the judgmental calls they implemented in recent years, like their interpretation of a catch which leads to more inconsistent calls than anything

defensive linemen can move, offensive linemen can't, just like it was throughout history. now they encourage the OL flop



and most importantly, take the reviews away from the "command center", where a video technician is making the calls and is the most inconsistent person in all of sports. Give reviews back to referees

keep it simple
 

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Willie, I don't even know how to respond to such a terrible post
Let's start with your first "point"
No advantage gained or lost, then there shouldn't be a flag. What the f does this even mean? What flags are you talking about? By this astounding opinion, Burfict shouldn't have been hit with a flag for trying to kill Brown. I mean, he didn't gain any "advantage" on that particular play by almost killing him
And especially "away from the play." What are you talking about here. Care to cite some examples of bad calls?
 

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too funny, carry on

I'm not going back to square one with you




PS: you're not interested anyway, remember?
 

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The one thing I will address is a concept I deem to be very important. No advantage gained or lost, no foul. It's a concept addressed by the NBA in it's "interpretation" or "application" of the rules. It's also a concept addressed by many officiating organizations covering a wide range of sports at varying levels of play.

Here's the NBA's interpretation.

Degree of Contact As noted in the Comments on the Rules in the NBA Rulebook, the mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul. Contact that is simply incident alto an effort by a player to play an opponent (on offense or defense) should not be considered illegal.In determining the degree of contact that constitutes a foul, referees take into account a few factors: In open areas like the perimeter, where players are often making large movements (e.g., cuts/drives), referees consider whether contact interrupts an opponent’s rhythm, speed, balance or quickness (or “RSBQ”). For example, if a defender makes contact with a driving offensive player such that the contactaffects the offensive player’s RSBQ, the contact is considered illegal and a foul isassessed. If the defender makes contact, but the offensive player continues hisdrive essentially unchanged, there is no foul. In close areas like the post, where players are often making tighter moves inclose proximity (e.g., backdowns/box-outs), referees consider whether the contact was enough to dislodge, reroute or impede an opponent. For example, if an offensive player backs into a defensive player who is in a legal guarding position and dislodges him, an offensive foul has occurred. Or if a defender delivers a blow with his forearm or shoulder to the offensive player as he attempts to backdown, a defensive foul has occurred.

https://turnernbahangtime.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/degree-of-contact.pdf
 

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I'm also going to suggest stuff like when a long pass is completed on one side of the field the fact that a wide receiver runs down and extends his arm on the other side of the field is not PI. The only advantage created there is when the ref throws his flag

The concept is very easy to understand
 

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I'm also going to suggest stuff like when a long pass is completed on one side of the field the fact that a wide receiver runs down and extends his arm on the other side of the field is not PI. The only advantage created there is when the ref throws his flag

The concept is very easy to understand
When's the last time you saw this flag thrown?
 

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

often, far too many times, hence my disdain for officiating
 

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I've seen plenty of 3rd and 15 plays where pass is incomplete then 20 yards from the play they call illegal contact 5 yard penalty first down. Drives me crazy!! I'm sure most agree
 

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Willie, I can tell you are very passionate about this topic. However, if you have no specific examples you wish to discuss, I'm afraid we can't continue.
If you have such a disdain for officiating, perhaps you should quit watching sports. They ALL have their bad call moments
 

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Willie, I can tell you are very passionate about this topic. However, if you have no specific examples you wish to discuss, I'm afraid we can't continue.
If you have such a disdain for officiating, perhaps you should quit watching sports. They ALL have their bad call moments

lol r u serious?
 

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In general, gambling forums are not the best places to go to discuss officiating in sports. Emotion overrides any logic. I have sat with guys and watched replays in slo-mo and they see something that defies what the video is showing. And they are being sincere.
 

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