NFL Draft Day

[chrishansen]

Everyone will laugh at the pick until he's awesome in 2-3 years

Draft analysts are wack

They can’t think for themselves. All they do is regurgitate what the echo chamber says.

I’d much rather they swing and miss but be original than just be parrots.

I’ve been doing draft boards for too many years as my hobby. I can safely say I’d be laughed out a room if I posted my info to a team. It amazes me they draw up comps and have big boards over 300 deep. I’m lucky if I have 75 draftable players.

Hell I had only 13 round 1 grades and 2 players are still out there.

 

[Michelangelo]

They can’t think for themselves. All they do is regurgitate what the echo chamber says.

I’d much rather they swing and miss but be original than just be parrots.

I’ve been doing draft boards for too many years as my hobby. I can safely say I’d be laughed out a room if I posted my info to a team. It amazes me they draw up comps and have big boards over 300 deep. I’m lucky if I have 75 draftable players.

Hell I had only 13 round 1 grades and 2 players are still out there.

Who is still there?

 

[chrishansen]

Woo hoo. Pats trade up to get a 4.28 WR with great hands as a new Mac Jones weapon. Love it. Just what I was hoping for.

Good news is I was very High on him.
Bad news is I have missed about every time I have a draftable grade on a Baylor player lol.

Goodley, Petty, Taylor, Watkins, Drango , Hager off the top of my head as not so good.

Lynch and Johnston TBD

Xavien Howard is the only one I can think of I got right.

Hope I didn’t curse your pick for patriots lol

 

[chrishansen]

Who is still there?

Leo Chanel LB Wisconsin
Cam Jurgens Nebraska

Both guys I see a versatile with Pro Bowl ability that have 8-10 year careers.

 

[chrishansen]

Couple other wins

Pitre Under 45.5 -110
Watson Under 39.5 +110

Draft Recap
+26 Wins
-11 losses

Time to see where the Punt God ends up!

 

[Michelangelo]

Bills get Arazia at #180. What a steal for the team I dread the most. The strong get stronger.

 

[chrishansen]

Bills get Arazia at #180. What a steal for the team I dread the most. The strong get stronger.

How he was 4th punter is beyond me.

My 10th or 11th prospect fell all the way into 4th. I was expecting early 3rd late 2nd possibly

Solid draft by a few teams. From what I’m looking at

 

[chrishansen]

Texans
Ravens (no shocker) crushed it
Packers
Panthers (limited picks did outstanding)
Chiefs
Seahawks
Jets

All seemed to address needs and quality players

 

[Michelangelo]

How he was 4th punter is beyond me.

My 10th or 11th prospect fell all the way into 4th. I was expecting early 3rd late 2nd possibly

Solid draft by a few teams. From what I’m looking at

A punter is such a powerful weapon. How this kid lasted 'till the 6th round reaffirms my opinion of most NFL GMs. Dumb.

 

[chrishansen]

A punter is such a powerful weapon. How this kid lasted 'till the 6th round reaffirms my opinion of most NFL GMs. Dumb.

I’m not an underwear Olympic combine guy, but when stats check out with measurements then it opens my eye a bit more.

If you were looking for and edge/LB type player who is great vs the run and great pressuring the QB but a bit stiff in the hips covering guys in coverage. Who would you pick based on measurements

Player A or Player B???


Player A
6’3 250
40 4.5
Vert 41
Broad 10’8
Bench 32 reps
3 cone 6.8

Size Great
Speed Elite
Agility Elite
Explosion Elite

RAS score (Athletic Testing)
9.99

Has the 3rd highest RAS score among 2419 LB’s since 1987
Von Miller 9.7 Luke Kuechly 9.8 Manny Lawson 10.0 to name a few with high scores. RAS is not a automatic a guy will be good fwiw.

Stats last year CFB
115 tackles
8 Sacks
18.5 TFL

Player B
6’4 250
40 4.6
Vert 38
Broad 10’3
Bench 21 Reps
3 cone 6.8

Size Elite
Speed Great
Explosion Great
Agility Elite

Last year CFB stats
38 tackles
11 sacks
14.5 TFL

 

[Michelangelo]

I’m not an underwear Olympic combine guy, but when stats check out with measurements then it opens my eye a bit more.

If you were looking for and edge/LB type player who is great vs the run and great pressuring the QB but a bit stiff in the hips covering guys in coverage. Who would you pick based on measurements

Player A or Player B???


Player A
6’3 250
40 4.5
Vert 41
Broad 10’8
Bench 32 reps
3 cone 6.8

Size Great
Speed Elite
Agility Elite
Explosion Elite

RAS score (Athletic Testing)
9.99

Has the 3rd highest RAS score among 2419 LB’s since 1987
Von Miller 9.7 Luke Kuechly 9.8 Manny Lawson 10.0 to name a few with high scores. RAS is not a automatic a guy will be good fwiw.

Stats last year CFB
115 tackles
8 Sacks
18.5 TFL

Player B
6’4 250
40 4.6
Vert 38
Broad 10’3
Bench 21 Reps
3 cone 6.8

Size Elite
Speed Great
Explosion Great
Agility Elite

Last year CFB stats
38 tackles
11 sacks
14.5 TFL

Apply for a GM job, Chris. You'd be better than 90% of them.

 

[chrishansen]

Apply for a GM job, Chris. You'd be better than 90% of them.

Player A is Leo Chanel
Player B TJ Watt

 

[chrishansen]

Few simple ways imo is to focus on

A certain schools
B only power 5 schools

You will miss some gems. But narrowing down the pool helps. Just go look at Baltimore. They continue to draft recognizable players who are good on good teams and they don’t get cute

Example, O line I tend to gravitate to schools who produce good players. Michigan Georgia Oklahoma Wisconsin Iowa etc. but schools like Penn State Ohio State Michigan st Arizona Arizona st Texas etc don’t really put out O line guys. Outside D Smith from Penn State, in the past 15 years what serviceable to good O line guys have they put out?

On the flip side, say a Penn State, WR TE LB Edge are good positions they produce. I had Neal as 1 of my 1st rd guys only grades, which oddly enough as much as Bama puts out O line guys they aren’t really that good in the NFL. Neal was first Bama Guy I was big on in many years. Now Dickerson I had a RD 1 grade on last year. Just Behind Creed Humphrey (sooners) kid. But Dickerson was a former Sooner who transfer to Bama senior year. So true Bama Guy idk.

Certain schools for whatever the reason produce NFL starting talent at certain positions. But teams I guess get cute looking for the next big thing. It’s like picking winners on thanksgiving when 3 teams play vs picking the entire card week 7. The more options the more you may Over think and miss.

A round 1 player doesn’t have to be elite. You just need to do your best in drafting a quality guy. Rd1 is more potential reaches imo.

You also have to do a good job on character. Go back just 2-3 years and look at all the got paid gave up guys rd1

Take a good look at the Jets drafts from past 5 years. DT Williams is the only drafted guy on their team excluding last years picks. And Jets wonder why they stink. Management has just been horrible till last year.

 

[chrishansen]

2019 Draft I chose Raiders as 1 of teams I draft for. I was curious to see how I picked vs Gruden and Mayock first year. Below is the draft picks in exactly each spot they had a pick. I reached a few rounds in 1-2 players from where they were drafted. And I wouldn’t have drafted Allen if I knew what Raiders thought about Carr. Just figure new management new QB start fresh. Each pick was made while they were on the clock.

4. Josh Allen QB Wyoming
( I’m a Carr fan but Allen was my top QB and I went with the New staff angle new QB. Carr was rumored to be on the fence with them)

24. Montez Sweat DE Miss St
27. DK Metcalf WR ole miss
40. Zach Allen DE BC
106. Ben Powers G auburn
129 Hunter renfrow WR (they actually took him later)
137 Isaiah Buggs DT Bama
149 Dontarvious Russel DT Auburn
230 Kenny Wilkins DE Michigan St


Now different teams, different environments nobody knows what these players would do if actually drafted. Some may excell and be better some may have not panned out. Have to be fair and see it both sides. But for the most part I took good players on good teams. I have notebooks for every year past several years on draft picks and teams I draft for in the what I would have done. Just fun to see how ya do considering you need 3 years to see how guys develop minimum.

 

[Michelangelo]

2022 NFL Draft shocker: Bills land 'Punt God' Matt Araiza who surprisingly gets taken behind two other punters

College football's 'Punt God' surprisingly wasn't the first punter taken in this year's draft

www.cbssports.com

"Draft shocker"

 

[Willie99]

The talking heads hate the Patriots draft, which means it's going to be a great class

Those who can, do. Those who can't, talk

Life 101

 

[Avocado33]

The talking heads hate the Patriots draft, which means it's going to be a great class

Those who can, do. Those who can't, talk

Life 101

It’s like clockwork

Patriots have had the “worst class” many times recently

 

[chrishansen]

The talking heads hate the Patriots draft, which means it's going to be a great class

Those who can, do. Those who can't, talk

Life 101

I’d argue the patriots are not an outstanding team in drafting. Patriots are decent to good in drafts. They are experts in signing guys off other teams and developing them into good players. They never have the ability to drat high in rounds but that’s a good problem to have. I believe the last top 15 pick I can recall was Mayo Tennessee. It’s not easy drafting in general. To many variables really. But no hiding the Pats do tend to get cute and over draft players.

They find good players like every team. O line and Secondary they seem to find quality players. But I wouldn’t say they knock drafts out the park. Sure, there are a few years I recall they did well and crushed it. Not sure the year, maybe 2007 range, but the Chad Jackson draft was a disaster. Believe they had multiple round 1 picks and traded around. 2006-2010 range was nothing great at all draft wise if I recall. Again, teams will have bad drafts. But Pats just aren’t the world beaters in the draft just because Bill makes a pick it’s some crafty hidden gem.

Top of my head
OL Mason Andrews Solder Thuney Larsen Karras
LB Mayo Spikes Collins Hightower

WR they for whatever reason can’t get right. All swing and missed. Edelman as a 7th RD pick doesn’t count. If they liked him so much he wouldn’t have gone RD7.

RB they draft like 2 every year. So obviously they pan out here and there as RB is one of the easier positions to find productions

TE they had the Gronk Hernandez draft which was as good as it ever gets. However, they seem to really swing and miss over reaching on TE and FB as high as round 2-4. Forget the year but some FB they drafted in round 3 was a total head scratcher who never played a down