My very first prediction for the 08 election...

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The next time I'm reminded of the suffering women endure in too many radicalized Muslim cultures, or apathy toward their plight back here at home, I'm going to conjure up the image of 40 or 50 thousand Muslim mothers smiling into the faces of healthy babies. You might try the same -- and remember, while you’re doing it, that these babies would not be alive today if it were not for the U.S. and coalition soldiers.

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I must be the only one who watches the "look how much better women are now in Afghanistan than before" specials. CNN, FoxNews, Frontline and I believe even Oprah (just to name a few) have detailed their rise from hiding from the Taliban to now attending school etc. With the exception of Oprah, I watched all of them, and I'm sure they were not aired just the one time.

Back when the news was a loss leader - one could argue that the media could be blamed for not giving equal time to good stories. However, since the advent of "the news must make money" and competition between news only TV channels, is it shocking that "important" has become even more subjective? OJ Simpson, Chandra Levy, the Holloway girl, Rutgers chick basketball etc. The same people who bitch the loudest - tend to also look at ratings as a form of "better" when it comes to news coverage.

Fred's playing an old song and Annie Contrarian is doing her best to rally the same people who just a short 2 years ago were talking about carving Bush into Mt. Rushmore. When Fred T. withdraws with some sort of Rudyesque health issue - will Mitt or Rudy suddenly be forgiven for being Rino's for the sake of having a (R) next to the name?


Back to the logic of this speech. The liberation of an oppressed people is never a bad thing -- but would we have liberated these women and helped these babies had we not been attacked on 911?

If not, how much do we really value liberty when it appears we're only willing to bring it to others as an ancillary spinoff benefit to hitting back at those that hit us?
 

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We have SELECTIONS not elections.

The American public never gets to vote on anything important. You can vote on gay marrige. You can vote to legalize pot. You can vote for increasing taxes vor police.

But you will never be allowed to vote for pay raises for Goverment employees. You will never be allowed to vote for your country to go to war. And you will never be allowed to vote for anybody that isn't a part of the global dictatorship.

The global dictators will never allow the American public to put 1 of OUR people in the white house because then all the scams would be uncovered. A real person would not allow these things to stay secret.

Believing you can vote for a president that will enter the white house for the American people is about as absurb as believing in God and believing that we are free.

How can you guys live in this fantasy world?
 

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My prediction is that within the next 2 years, I'll become truely apathetic, and won't give a fuck who wins.

It feels good, Judge. There's something empowering about finally realising they're all out to fuck us, whether they claim to have god or the dhali lama on their side.

An ex of mine, who never ever voted always used to ask those of us that did, "why encourage the fuckers?"

Indeed.
 

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"How can you guys live in this fantasy world?"
Because my fantasy world has Latinas.<!-- / message -->
 

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Back to the logic of this speech. The liberation of an oppressed people is never a bad thing -- but would we have liberated these women and helped these babies had we not been attacked on 911?

Luckily Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11!!!
 

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C'mon ktv, Saddam's hanging was inevitable. Don't make me dig up those Clinton quotes!

You know the PNAC agenda (with or without 9/11) is very simple: no nukes in the Middle East, period.
 

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You know the PNAC agenda is very simple: no nukes in the Middle East.

No nukes? Or just Kosher ones? Regardless - no refuting my post that Thompson is just another folksy actor who tries to blame the media for not running 24/7 kitten in a tree stories.

Do we expect any less from a guy who subs in for Paul Harvey?

I'll ask again -- while we're patting ourselves on the back for liberating the Afghani women, can we honestly say that the babies who lived and the women who prosper would have been liberated without 911?
 

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You know the PNAC agenda (with or without 9/11) is very simple: no nukes in the Middle East, period.

That is not their agenda.

Their agenda, stated plainly on their website, is:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Project for the New American Century[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle.[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]


They may have 'no nukes in the ME' as part of their American domination strategy, but it is not the key agenda. Their key agenda is to keep the United States at the proverbial top.
 

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That is not their agenda.

Their agenda, stated plainly on their website, is:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Project for the New American Century[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle.[/FONT]


They may have 'no nukes in the ME' as part of their American domination strategy, but it is not the key agenda. Their key agenda is to keep the United States at the proverbial top.

In another words, the Reagan Doctrine: Peace Through Strength.

Grab your Tardis and compare each section of the globe when Reagan left office and the 12 years thereafter with a RINO and liberal in the White House. The time line reads like one "coming storm" after another.

No other country (nor the UN) has the military power to keep the peace, only the United States does.

No other country (nor the UN) has the moral credibility and the rock solid constitutional checks and balances to be the "world police," only the United States does.
 

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No nukes? Or just Kosher ones? Regardless - no refuting my post that Thompson is just another folksy actor who tries to blame the media for not running 24/7 kitten in a tree stories.

Do we expect any less from a guy who subs in for Paul Harvey?

I'll ask again -- while we're patting ourselves on the back for liberating the Afghani women, can we honestly say that the babies who lived and the women who prosper would have been liberated without 911?

Obviously I wish we had gone into afghanistan before 9/11 but we all know the libs would have been against it.
 

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Thompson quit the Senate a few years back. Now he has lymphoma, a toddler and an infant. And now he is going to run for President?

What was so special about his Senate terms anyway?

He's a fine character actor. I have no problem with him playing President on TV or in a movie. But not in real life.

And I don't mean to be rude about, he seems like a decent guy and I hope he gets well, but in the couple interviews I've seen, he really doesn't look or sound that well. IMO he needs to focus on his health and his two small children. But hey, it's a free country.
 

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IMO he needs to focus on his health and his two small children.

OK, Doctor "bleeding heart" D2bets. There is no cure for liberalism but you are going to give a true conservative advice?

fuckin hilariuous


In other words, you see Fred as our next president if he does decide to run. Me too.


Judge and X,
You two sound like a couple old fogies who sit on bar stools all day long who have given up. Don't give up.
 

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Forget a Fred Thompson. Ron Paul is the clearly the best candidate for the job.
 

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