after watching Kordell for all these years I am very serious!
They are great atheletes but they are just not smart enough to play QB in the NFL! I dont care if they run for 2000 yards. They just cant pass the ball!
Do I sound racist???
I dont care, I know im right!
I love betting against black QBs in big games!
NONE OF THESE BLACK QBs IN THE NFL ARE GREAT PASSERS!
They are great atheletes but they are just not smart enough to play QB in the NFL! I dont care if they run for 2000 yards. They just cant pass the ball!
Do I sound racist???
I dont care, I know im right!
I love betting against black QBs in big games!
NONE OF THESE BLACK QBs IN THE NFL ARE GREAT PASSERS!
this is the real deal. teams are too eager to have the protypical QB who can run and pass on the fly and make something out of a busted play. it just so happens this 'prototypical' QB happens to often be black. there have been several good black QB's the skin color is not the issue. but teams who are lousy to begin with want to throw in a qb with legs and poor throwing skills hopeing he'll make something happen. or that the QB coach can make him a good passer. think about it. you dont look at a QB and say "he's got a hell of an arm, if only we could turn him into mobile QB." no. theyre saying "he's mobile as hell and he's got an ok arm lets see if we can make him the complete QB."
mcnabb is a good QB, but the injury will prevent him from being as good as he once was. its the nature of the NFL; look at marshall faulk, is he the same?! the thing is, the nfl is too much of a speed/power game and the edge a player loses after an injury such as donovan's is often too much to overcome to be able to be back the way a player was before such an injury. you can't tell me mcnabb was'nt or still isnt a damn awesome QB. if you think he stinks, youre an idiot and very uneducated regarding NFL talent or probably football completely for that matter. Donovan almost single handedly beat the RAMS with his throwing, running and improvastional skills in the NFC title game the year the pats won it all. the defense let him/them down; not the other way around.
as far as rush is concerned, when has he actually been right about anything when does anyone actually agree with him or take him serious?! he's the brain bosworth of his field. loud, but awful at what he does.
AITON: you are just as bad as Rush, making lame opinions in hopes of getting attention. youve probably lost money on a side who happened to a Black QB like I have, like we all have. I know you really dont believe what youve said unless youre 18 and havent seen a ton of football but I highly doubt that given the seriousness and maturity of your other posts.
mcnabb is a good QB, but the injury will prevent him from being as good as he once was. its the nature of the NFL; look at marshall faulk, is he the same?! the thing is, the nfl is too much of a speed/power game and the edge a player loses after an injury such as donovan's is often too much to overcome to be able to be back the way a player was before such an injury. you can't tell me mcnabb was'nt or still isnt a damn awesome QB. if you think he stinks, youre an idiot and very uneducated regarding NFL talent or probably football completely for that matter. Donovan almost single handedly beat the RAMS with his throwing, running and improvastional skills in the NFC title game the year the pats won it all. the defense let him/them down; not the other way around.
as far as rush is concerned, when has he actually been right about anything when does anyone actually agree with him or take him serious?! he's the brain bosworth of his field. loud, but awful at what he does.
AITON: you are just as bad as Rush, making lame opinions in hopes of getting attention. youve probably lost money on a side who happened to a Black QB like I have, like we all have. I know you really dont believe what youve said unless youre 18 and havent seen a ton of football but I highly doubt that given the seriousness and maturity of your other posts.
Okay now. Let's just call it what it is.
McNabb is barely average by today's QB standards. He's tightened up so badly in 2 NFCC Games, Philly Fans are now being treated in hospitals all over the city for the same disease Pittsburgh Fans got after years of Korkie: CCS.
Here's a blurb form the AP:
Constant Choke Syndrome is a disease that touches many Americans at some point in their lives. It runs rampant in Chicago where Championships are nearly non-existent due to a virulent outbreak almost one hundred years ago.
The disease has been ragaing in Metropolitan Cleveland and Buffalo for almost twenty years now, and appears to have traveled with McNabb from his hometown Chicago to Philadelphia, infecting the entire Eagles team and spreading through the locker room to poison the Phillies baseball team as well.
The disease had a strong foothold in Denver until the "Terrel Davis Vaccine" wiped it out in the late 90's. The Pittsburgh area was infected for the last seven years when the disease traveled from an existing pocket in Colorado. The disease was surgically removed with a single cut last winter.
McNabb is barely average by today's QB standards. He's tightened up so badly in 2 NFCC Games, Philly Fans are now being treated in hospitals all over the city for the same disease Pittsburgh Fans got after years of Korkie: CCS.
Here's a blurb form the AP:
Constant Choke Syndrome is a disease that touches many Americans at some point in their lives. It runs rampant in Chicago where Championships are nearly non-existent due to a virulent outbreak almost one hundred years ago.
The disease has been ragaing in Metropolitan Cleveland and Buffalo for almost twenty years now, and appears to have traveled with McNabb from his hometown Chicago to Philadelphia, infecting the entire Eagles team and spreading through the locker room to poison the Phillies baseball team as well.
The disease had a strong foothold in Denver until the "Terrel Davis Vaccine" wiped it out in the late 90's. The Pittsburgh area was infected for the last seven years when the disease traveled from an existing pocket in Colorado. The disease was surgically removed with a single cut last winter.
Big Lou,
I concede that there hasn't been a QB that rushed for more than 300 yards that won a Super Bowl.
Most scrambling QBS as they get older tend to scramble to run less and scramble to pass more - part of the maturation process as they generally can't have a long career running. Also, the more talented your team is, the less the QB has to make plays by himself. Like when Steve Young and 49ers shellacked the Chargers I don't think he ever had to leave the pocket - he had too many weapons and he got no pressure cause his O line was too good. But if he had to tuck it and run, I'm sure he would have just like Elway did in the biggest first down of the Super Bowl when the Broncos beat the Packers.
Also, the single biggest play of the 49ers first Super Bowl season was when Montana left the pocket to complete the pass to Dwight Clark in the championship game.
If you define scramblers as 300 yard rushers, then you're dead on. If you define scramblers as mobile quarterbacks that can leave the pocket to make plays, then I say there's 4 or 5 of 'em that have won the Super Bowl.
I concede that there hasn't been a QB that rushed for more than 300 yards that won a Super Bowl.
Most scrambling QBS as they get older tend to scramble to run less and scramble to pass more - part of the maturation process as they generally can't have a long career running. Also, the more talented your team is, the less the QB has to make plays by himself. Like when Steve Young and 49ers shellacked the Chargers I don't think he ever had to leave the pocket - he had too many weapons and he got no pressure cause his O line was too good. But if he had to tuck it and run, I'm sure he would have just like Elway did in the biggest first down of the Super Bowl when the Broncos beat the Packers.
Also, the single biggest play of the 49ers first Super Bowl season was when Montana left the pocket to complete the pass to Dwight Clark in the championship game.
If you define scramblers as 300 yard rushers, then you're dead on. If you define scramblers as mobile quarterbacks that can leave the pocket to make plays, then I say there's 4 or 5 of 'em that have won the Super Bowl.
Big Lou,
We reached common ground - I agree about McNabb.
However, in McNabb's defense, he has no running game, his wide receivers are probably the worst in the league so he has to scramble to make plays. Troy Aikman may have won 3 Super Bowls but I don't think he could've ever gotten the Eagles teams that McNabb has played with to the playoffs, never mind a Super Bowl.
We reached common ground - I agree about McNabb.
However, in McNabb's defense, he has no running game, his wide receivers are probably the worst in the league so he has to scramble to make plays. Troy Aikman may have won 3 Super Bowls but I don't think he could've ever gotten the Eagles teams that McNabb has played with to the playoffs, never mind a Super Bowl.
here is what I read about a year ago somewhere else and I agree with it completely:
Vick is another case of a fast athlete that could play Q.B.
in college and high school, but should not even be considered
as an N.F.L. quarterback.
And it's sickning to hear all these anouncers build him up
for NO REASON whatever except that they don't want to appear to
BE RACISTS.
it's a shame that you can't say what you feel because IDIOTS will point at you and call you racist.
Vick should be a running back or a wide receiver just like Kordella in Pitts.
But if anyone should play q.b. that's not a q.b. it is Vick......
he is soo fast it could be a good idea just to let him handle the football on every play, But no !
football is just not played this way.
q.b.s are just not supposed to run the football.
that will NEVER Change.
It certainly is funny how a young QB in the NFL can have a very good stretch of games, and all of a sudden he is the second coming of Jesus. Remember Culpepper two years ago, or McNabb? They are both good, but not as good as the hype around them was when they had their first winning stretch. Same goes for Vick. Though I do think if Vick continues to run as much as he does he will get KILLED. He is nowhere near as big as McNabb. McNair or Culpepper, and in the NFL, history has proven that if a QB runs enough, he will run himself right into a serious injury. Vick has a fantastic arm, he should hang in the pocket like you are supposed to.
VICK WILL BE OUT OF THE LEAGUE IN 3 YEARS IF HE KEEPS RUNNING, RUNNING QB'S NEVER LAST AND NEVER WIN, PROVEN 100%
Vick is another case of a fast athlete that could play Q.B.
in college and high school, but should not even be considered
as an N.F.L. quarterback.
And it's sickning to hear all these anouncers build him up
for NO REASON whatever except that they don't want to appear to
BE RACISTS.
it's a shame that you can't say what you feel because IDIOTS will point at you and call you racist.
Vick should be a running back or a wide receiver just like Kordella in Pitts.
But if anyone should play q.b. that's not a q.b. it is Vick......
he is soo fast it could be a good idea just to let him handle the football on every play, But no !
football is just not played this way.
q.b.s are just not supposed to run the football.
that will NEVER Change.
It certainly is funny how a young QB in the NFL can have a very good stretch of games, and all of a sudden he is the second coming of Jesus. Remember Culpepper two years ago, or McNabb? They are both good, but not as good as the hype around them was when they had their first winning stretch. Same goes for Vick. Though I do think if Vick continues to run as much as he does he will get KILLED. He is nowhere near as big as McNabb. McNair or Culpepper, and in the NFL, history has proven that if a QB runs enough, he will run himself right into a serious injury. Vick has a fantastic arm, he should hang in the pocket like you are supposed to.
VICK WILL BE OUT OF THE LEAGUE IN 3 YEARS IF HE KEEPS RUNNING, RUNNING QB'S NEVER LAST AND NEVER WIN, PROVEN 100%
Am I Tight,
I have a hard time with criticism of Vick. The guy hasn't even started 2 years yet, most QBs need about 5 to mature. What QB other than Tom Brady has won a Super Bowl with less than 3 years of experience in the last 20 years? Vick is by no means a finished product and will continue to get better.
Vick was the main reason Atlanta went to the playoffs last year and his absence this year is the biggest difference. With the poor offensive line and running game, and below average receiving corps, he did an extraordinary job last year. I don't think there are more than 5 QBs in the league that could've gotten Atlanta into the playoffs last year.
I have a hard time with criticism of Vick. The guy hasn't even started 2 years yet, most QBs need about 5 to mature. What QB other than Tom Brady has won a Super Bowl with less than 3 years of experience in the last 20 years? Vick is by no means a finished product and will continue to get better.
Vick was the main reason Atlanta went to the playoffs last year and his absence this year is the biggest difference. With the poor offensive line and running game, and below average receiving corps, he did an extraordinary job last year. I don't think there are more than 5 QBs in the league that could've gotten Atlanta into the playoffs last year.
One huge problem with running QB's is that they turn the ball over more than passers. A passing QB will throw the ball away while a running QB holds on to the ball too long which leads to fumbles. Turnovers are huge in determining a the outcome of a game in the NFL. Also it's exciting when a running QB takes off running and gains 20 yards. A passer with throw the ball for 20 yards and when it's all said and done it's still a 20 yd gain.
