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Aloha Gang. First off, I hope you All are in good spirits and health. The following is a response to All the stupid comments an assumptions made by some others here that pertain to me. I didnt have to write this, but I felt that I have alot of friends and I respect alot of fellow cappers here, so this was the least I could do to end this dumbshit assumptions about me once and for ALL. Also, it was done so that this forum can be use for what it is intended to be used for and that is to help everyone be WINNERS. Good luck today to All in the NIT Championship Games. Aloha and thanks for your time. Co-Captain.
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Aloha Gang,

WOW! You say something out of simple frustration, and it gets taken the fvck way out of proportion. Well, because inquiring minds want to know what the deal is with Co-Captain, and because a lot of fvck heads out there who are simply just JEALOUS BITCHES who want to keep showing their ignorance when it comes to me, I thought I would inform my friends and then at the same time educate those misinformed as well.

First, as far as the EMAILS are concerned. That ALL came about because the RX went down several times on VERY important betting days. Many here were looking all over the net trying to see where else I posted my plays and writeups. I was also pretty upset as I put together my writeups, which does take several hours to do, only to find out that I couldn't post it for you ALL. I also posted my plays at several other places that were not affected, but only a few knew this. So, just in the event of something like this happening again and to alleviate ALL the crying about this place going down, I decided to try to help people who wanted my plays out by giving them an address to contact me. I have never before asked or listed an EMAIL address before. Why? Because I never had a need to. Plus, now that people do have my address, I can only say that I still do not solicit it, even though many want to believe that I have been doing this. I have only so many hours in one day. And do you know how many Emails I am getting each day from three sites, which include men, women, cappers, books, bookies, services, husbands and wives, other sports forums, etc.? I, of course, answered and gave them ALL this site at the RX, which I stated was my home base forum btw, where my plays could most often be found and nothing else.

Now these other sites were just set up by me late in the season, and I am yet to decide if I am going to remain with them or not. Still, the Email address was set up for that purpose, and that purpose ONLY. I think that I stated this as well at the bottom of my post during this uncertainty with the DOS attacks. It wasn't until SportSavants helped me out and informed me that I could put it at the bottom of my thread in the location area. So I did, and it has been there ever since.

Now as for turning tout. What a JOKE! A tout I am not. All I try to do is work hard and share with ALL everything I know and then some freely. Whether you agree with it or not is not an issue. In fact, the issue is the fact that I wanted to share with everyone another point of view, another opinion, another angle, etc...that no tout or service ever does. All of this was done so that you ALL may have yet another thing to look at, which could help you in deciding whether to play Team A or Team B. I have never told anyone how to bet or what to bet, except maybe when it came to my GOY's as these guys I put my ASS on the line to back up because it is the BEST opportunity for ALL of US to make Big $$$ on. Other than that, my value ratings that I placed on the games were the farthest I went in telling you which games were better, in my view, then others. That was it. The rest and the ultimate decision were completely left up to you to decide.

As far as records are concerned, well, I never kept any records if you ALL can recall. For me, my information and insight that I shared, to me, were of more value than my record. Plus, I usually go by what is in my accounts and not by records. Also, I simply kept a daily and weekly update for everyone. But because so many people were making it an issue, i.e., Exposer. I decided what the Hell. If this is more important than the information and insights I was sharing, then so be it. And I made it a point to make sure I showed them Wins and Losses very clearly and as often as I could. Irritating, I know, but gotta keep everyone happy. Funny thing is now when I do it, some people here are sick of it and saying that I am patting myself on my back and egotistical. I bet these were the same people who requested it in the first place. You people wanted it, so now you got it, and now you have to live with what you wanted. Funny isn't it. I am egotistical for posting my record. No, I dont think so. I am just very proud of my accomplishments, which also helped a lot of other people. And I am very happy because of it. With me Gang, trust me when I say, I have no need to be praised, patted on the back, or looked upon as the Best. What I need and want is to try to give back to others as they have so generously given to me. Why? Because all those things do nothing for me. It doesn't make me happy or sad, rich or poor, or even better looking, LOL. All those FEELINGS dealing with me can only come from me and no one else. People, what you see and hear is straight up talk and direct talk. Fvck, I have nothing to gain by hiding behind any type of fascade or games. I do not have the energy or time to play games. Games are for insecure, jealous, spiteful people who are mad at the World because others are succeeding or have something that they want. Please, I have always stated that I believe that there is enough $$$ or whatever to go around for ALL of US to benefit from. I am straight forward as they come. No hype, no bs. But I've learned that in this World, there are many who cannot handle this type of personality and straightforwardness. So, I try to make adjustments to find balance in myself, encompassing some good and some not so good. Still working on the swearing part though, LOL. To me, in this World and in Life, balance is Key. Still, in order to survive you have to keep a sense of humor and I think I have shown it a lot in my threads.LOL limpy. I still laugh sometimes when I go back to re-read them.

Ok, now with that shit hopefully out of the way, I will address this issue. Well honestly I have never had any plan on going tout, as you call it, or become a service as we call it here in Hawaii. Nope, all I wanted to do was WIN money handicapping sports games, and hopefully get honest, unbias feedback from others here who read my reasonings for my plays, all in hopes of being the best I could possibly be. But in the process, I became addicted to helping others win and become happy somehow with what I was sharing with them. It made me feel good to do this for others, and it made me more addicted to wanting to feel good about helping others out. I think that is why I am on here so constantly. That is why my writeups are so long and extensive. That is why I try to provide you ALL with everything I have and then some. It just gave me a good feeling to be able to do this, and judging by the responses I got, I think there are many that appreciated what I was providing. You don't know how good it feels to hear that I helped someone out of a Big hole or that I was able to help another pay for a trip they were planning to take, etc.

Still, in the process of doing this, not only did other people take notice and were appreciative because my honest hard work was paying off for others. But, businesses, services, syndicates, other sports forums as well were also becoming interested in the value I was providing to others. Thus, I have been contacted by several companies, including Smokey, to be a part of their team that provides people with my selections. But Smokey, like I said, is not the only one contacting me. I already do this for a handful of my father's friends who are heavy gamblers who are too busy to do the capping themselves and do not trust Touts or Services, but they trust me. For them, I do this work, and get paid if they win. If they lose, then I don't most times. It's all cool though as I am doing it already and have nothing to lose. But they like it because they know that I will play it for one, and they know they can trust in my honest hard work. Now, I am very generous and honest with my time, information and efforts as I can be with others. But, I am not a Dummy either. When someone is offering me an opportunity, or at least a chance to get paid for doing something that I already like and am doing. Can you blame me for not at least looking at the offer. I mean, think about it, if you were a lawyer defending people for free (pro bono), had all the credibility and experience to do the job, and some Big Law Firm took notice of you and wanted you to join their company and team. Wouldn't you take alook at this opportunity? How about this example where you are an athlete playing ball for a semi pro team getting paid nothing only to be recognized for your hard work and value by a Professional team that would like you to join them. Wouldn't you take a serious look at it? Of course you would. Well, that is what I am doing right now.

But, and here is the Big But, I aint going into business to NOW start ripping people off. FVCK THAT! AND FVCK YOU, if that is what your thinking I will be doing. Let me share with you a personal short story. There once was a younger, stupider Co-Captain, who was fvcked up the ass by these guys and lost Big money paying for these rip-off artist. Fvck them ASSHOLES. I dispise those pricks, Guaranteed Picks, Wayne Root, Rockys, Bullseye, Jim Fiest, Jane Lee, etc...and many more that I use many, many moons ago. If you actually believe that I want to be associated with this bunch of fvck heads assholes. You can forget that shit. Gang, if you don't know me by now, I live in Hawaii. Now in Hawaii, we have just one service operating here year round. How can this happen? Cause they are honest and legit. Honesty and legitimacy is the ONLY way that you as a business is ever going to survive here in Hawaii. We no longer have any newspapers at all in Hawaii that have sports betting ads for services. They were ALL exposed a while back and no longer can advertise here. Some people here in Hawaii know who I am. Also, some here on the many forums know that I am from Hawaii. Do you actually think I could do business here and survive if I were to scam people? Shit, the dam Crips and Bloods, as well as the Mafia and Yakuza, couldn't run their scams and trips here in Hawaii. So I have no doubt that even if I wanted to rip people off, WHICH I DO NOT, I wouldn't stand a chance here or anywhere, as I am sure other Hawaiian's would definitely be telling you if I was involved in doing something like that. Just like I am telling you that Rocky's Winner Circle was a tout scam business that operated here in Hawaii, which got booted real fast, or should I say fled to Montana really fast.

Still, I know that some jealous people will start false rumors about the Co-Captain, but that should be expected anywhere. But they still cannot and will not change a person's true motives. Like I am trying to say, whether I chose to take a offer or not or do it myself, you can be assured that I will be the same Co-Captain as I have proven to be here at the RX. And that is one who will be informative, honest, insightful, outside the box thinker, direct, stupid at times, crazy, funny, sensitive at times to stupid comments and questions, compassionate, confronting, a little, just a little, whinning, some drama, sometimes a dickhead, nice guy, fun guy, happy guy, horny guy, hungover guy, limp noodle guy, congratulatory guy, very supportive guy, and of course Homer guy .LOL I don't make promises, if know there is a chance that I can't keep it, especially in this game where after you cap it , it is out of your hands now and in to the hands of the players themselves. I don't try to hype things up with using LOCK, Can't Lose, Bet the House, etc.. You know, all them misleading and very motivating type of Horse Shit. I think I only twice said to "Pound It", and they were in regards to my ONLY two GOY Plays one in CFB, and one in CBB, that were both Big Blowouts. Beside this, anything can happen and as we ALL know, what can happen will happen. So I ain't no Dummy who will set my ass up for a fall at all. Believe That. Nope, all you get is like I mentioned a person who is hard working , and who feels good about helping others.

Remember, I don't need to charge people to be successful at this game. I have proven that I have been able to be successful with or without anyone. However, just because I can cap out winners doesn't mean that I shouldn't get compensated for it. Also, there is nothing wrong that I see in taking compensation for my hard work either. What is wrong in getting paid something for my honest hard work that I provide to you ALL? Someone, please explain to me how this is WRONG if I decided to do this. In Hawaii we have this thing called "Balato", something that is given to someone who has helped them out some way. I only had two people offer to send me something because of the money I helped them make. Now a business wants me to be a part of their company and it seems like everyone is getting all worked up over it. Hey, someone has recognized my ability and is willing to compensate me for it. What is wrong with that? I say nothing at All.

Most of you people here who are on these free forums who do not post plays, will be the very ones who will be bashing me if I do decide to go into business for myself. Why?.... Because you may feel that I owe you something. Well, let me say this to you folks. I don't owe you ANYTHING! What you got, came from my HEART, but I don't owe you. Now, there will be posters(cappers) here who will bash me as well. Well, I wonder WHY? I am not and never will scam people, so WHY BASH. WHY NOT CONGRATULATE ME FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. Well, I think that I have proven and earned it. Whether I accept it or not is not the issue. I think the bashing will come about simply from Jealousy because they want what someone else has, or else WHY do it? The bashing from posters will come about because they simply think that I owe them something. Why do you care what I chose to do, if and when I chose to do it?

Gang, I am taking the time off to decide what my options are at this time. Like I mentioned, a few services have been contacting me to join their group of handicappers. All I know is that whatever I decide to do, it won't be with any questionable or scamdicapping group of FVCKHEADS. I can't deal with that, and I am sorry for any of you who believe that this is what Co-Captain will become. FVCK THAT, FOR THE LAST TIME! I will also still continue to be active here as long as you guys and the owners want me to be. I will still post some of my plays, but I never posted all of them anyway. I will still try to post my insights, info, and FYI's, angles, especially on Hawaii will still be given out here.

For those who think that I will lose because I may do this, as it was said that it always happens. Well, like I said earlier, I have been capping games for a bunch of my fathers friends for a number of years and I have yet to get them to STOP calling and making sure that I give them my plays before the game goes off. All I try and will continue to do is pick WINNERS for others to enjoy. Nothing more and nothing less, as it is hard enough doing just that one thing.

So, in conclusion, everyone you got my side to this whole issue that was Stupidly brought up and made an issue of. But I am glad that I at least was able to give my side of it all. Thats all I can say in regards to this. If you have questions of some uncertainty, then ask I always answer an intelligent question that someone ask, because they needed information, clarification, or because I caused confusion, as honestly as I can. Therefore, I will leave it ALL up to you to make up your minds as to what you think and feel, but do remember, its an opportunity for me and I am not taking away anything from anyone, because I owe nothing to no one. Jealousy and hatred will appear in many forms, but I again really wonder WHY? And I really wonder how that will benefit anyone here. Lastly, try not to pick apart my words I stated in this short address to you ALL. Try not to take things out of context to try and start shit with me. And, before you decide that you want to bash me in any way shape or form. Ask yourself this ONE question. "Why is it that I care so much what Co-Captain does or doesnt do? Co-Captain doesnt owe me ANYTHING, not even and explaination, but he has given me a lot".

Aloha and Good Luck to you in All your Future Endeavors, Co-Captain.
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p.s, for those of you ignorant people who are stupid enough to make an unsubstantiated and unfair comment regarding what I wrote, be prepared as you will definately show and or confirm to everyone in this forum, who and what you really are. Just a heads up to you brainiacs.

[This message was edited by Co-Captain on April 01, 2004 at 10:24 AM.]
 

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Another one bites the dust.

Co-Captain,

I, too, was contacted many times towards the end of the '03 baseball season and during the offseason and asked if I wanted to be part of a service team to provide basebal plays for a charge. They said they would love to add my name to their site and I would be the final piece to their puzzle: A person who can cap baseball successfully on a consistent basis. I had a trememndous baseball season, amassing over 80 units and completely running away with the MLB Challenge that was documented everyday by Therecordkeeper. Of course, I thought about the offers. How can I turn down FREE money - win or lose! I thought long and hard about it and decided that if I am a good capper like they and everyone believes then I can make money from that and if I am not a good enough capper then I wouldnt feel right taking money for losing plays. So I thought about it more and more during this offseason and ultimately decided to stay away and give my plays out for free. At this moment I am happy with my decision and I can live with it. But who knows what the future will bring.

Either way, good luck on your new role!


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Co-Captain, you are a class act! Thanks for all the winners you have provided over the basketball season. I have really enjoyed your write-ups and your hard work. Thanks for everything bro! Good luck to you in all that you do!

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I second that FawvDog; Co-Captain you rock
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I have made more money off your plays this season than I ever thought possible. Thanks for everything you've done for this forum; it's a better place because your here. PS - Where do you live in Hawaii? I come over every November for business and it would be really cool to hook up and watch some FOOTBALL!! and do some of this
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. I'm normally in the Honolulu area for a couple days and over in Hilo a couple days. Good luck with all your future endeavors
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I can't say I really understand all of what you wrote, CC. I think you're basically saying you might join a service, and you don't want any shit about it. That's cool.

I was actually thinking awhile ago that something should be set up here where it's understood you can/should pay a capper something when you're relying on their picks and making money from it. In fact, before the back-to-back Hawaiian losses, I was going to do just that....except I lost my shirt there, and so it was pointless. (And stupid on my part to put too much on them, but that's another story.)

But the point still applies, and it makes sense, too. The problem I see w/services is paying for something that loses. I've never paid for picks, but maybe somebody can tell me--is there any service that you make a payment contingent on the success of the plays? Probably not, but there should be.

Anyway, I'd offer this suggestion to RXers....have cappers list a payment mechanism by their names--neteller, whatever. Maybe it seems like a joke--honor system and all that--but I'm thinking there's people who if they have success relying on somebody's picks, they'd be willing to pay a little something "in tribute." I would. Plenty of times, of course, a lot of posters will have the same plays, but that's really nitpicking. You know when you're using somebody's tips.

Anyway, just a thought. All the best to CC and everyone else who's put in time here. Much appreciated.
 
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i like the idea of a service paying you back d if you lose. the free week is such a scam, like you are going to get their best plays all week. they already got your money, who cares if they keep losing. then i would fear the half get one play, the other half get the play, and meet you in the middle somewhere.

like they say $25 for tonights play.
then it should say i'll pay you back $30 if you lose.

then that is ballzie.

there isn't one that would do that.

old cc already sounds like a tout, he mentioned he would still post some of his plays, which ones do we get, the sh*tty ones.

oh yea, why don't these services just post all their plays right after a tip off, or kick off, so everyone can really see how they are doing.

no one should really bitch about the captain, he made people money, and he got famous. congrats.

now panic should set in, people will bet their life savings on his plays, hope he wins. i would really feel like sh*t if i sucked.


got to admitt, the old captain gets a for marketing. must be a college grad.
he still rules the forum and hasn't won or posted a play in a awhile.

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See, that's what I mean--but really, why is it funny? If I follow your picks and make money....why not throw a bone? I guess it's funny because the thought is nobody's going to ever part with any of their money if they're not forced to. I guess that's true.
 
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i like the money thing grogan

maybe people will take some responsibilty in plays they followed and cappers osme responsibilty for posting plays.

i could use and extra fin every now and then.

but that would destroy the whole prupose of the site.
 

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This is what I posted above.

Another one bites the dust.

Co-Captain,

I, too, was contacted many times towards the end of the '03 baseball season and during the offseason and asked if I wanted to be part of a service team to provide basebal plays for a charge. They said they would love to add my name to their site and I would be the final piece to their puzzle: A person who can cap baseball successfully on a consistent basis. I had a trememndous baseball season, amassing over 80 units and completely running away with the MLB Challenge that was documented everyday by Therecordkeeper. Of course, I thought about the offers. How can I turn down FREE money - win or lose! I thought long and hard about it and decided that if I am a good capper like they and everyone believes then I can make money from that and if I am not a good enough capper then I wouldnt feel right taking money for losing plays. So I thought about it more and more during this offseason and ultimately decided to stay away and give my plays out for free. At this moment I am happy with my decision and I can live with it. But who knows what the future will bring.

Either way, good luck on your new role!


-MC
 

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Good luck Co-Captain... I was quite similar to you in that I started just posting my selections to help some people out, but after getting documented over at Wagerline and producing a positive record in every sport I bet, and absolutely killing college hoops this year -- I got some emails of people wanting me to join their services and/or people wanting to pay me to privately email my selections.

I have nothing against this line of work at all if you are honest about it, and you seem to be. While you don't keep track of your record in the best possible manner, that is never a problem because you don't bash other's selections and you aren't "advertising" for your services everytime you turn around.

As people have probably seen from the Jim Feist's of the world, there is a lot of money to be made in bombarding advertisements and shady record-keeping. As long as you aren't one of those guys, its hard to fault you for accepting money for your services.

Good luck to you in your endeavours.
 

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I don't think it would ruin the site, Truely, if it was voluntary, which of course it would be. The bigger thing is that people just won't do it 99% of the time....but if the payment info was there, and somebody won big, they might kick in a bit.
 

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Co-Captain, I will support you in whatever you do. You and a few others did help me make a little cheese in the baskets. I have a decent opinion on college football but we can always use other opinions from successful people. You have always conducted yourself in a gentlemanly and curteous manner. I pay for all of The Gold Sheet publications that have taught me so much over the years so if you can make a little bit of money by helping others with your insights then go for it. I really feel like that we have become friends and I wish you the best of luck in whatever you do. I have your email and you have mine so lets keep in touch. LT
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