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Now, as scientists with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change gather in Sweden this week to approve portions of the IPCC's fifth assessment report, they are finding themselves pressured to explain this glaring discrepancy.
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Though scientists don't have any firm answers, they do have multiple theories. Xie has argued that the hiatus is the result of heat absorption by the Pacific Ocean — a little-understood, naturally occurring process that repeats itself every few decades. Xie and his colleagues presented the idea in a study published last month in the prestigious journal Nature.

The theory, which is gaining adherents, remains unproved by actual observation. Surface temperature records date to the late 1800s, but measurements of deep water temperature began only in the 1960s, so there just isn't enough data to chart the long-term patterns, Xie said.

Scientists have also offered other explanations for the hiatus: lack of sunspot activity, low concentrations of atmospheric water vapor and other marine-related effects. These too remain theories.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep...ainty-20130923

I know they are all theories, nothing will be proven until a later date. I am not debating this.
 

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The guy Goddard is junk science. Your guy Ian Plimer is Junk Science. You are looking more and more like a low informed idiot. I have supplied enough data that has pointed out how embarrassing these scientists are. I don't know what more to tell you

right...and ClimateGate never happened and Michael Mann never existed

fact is....yes FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist...basically work their way out of a job. This same manipulation of bullshit global warming data has been going on for decades and continues to be exposed without much fan fare because you global warming nuts gloss it over and keep reiterating a "97% of scientists" tag line that has been long since refuted.

Goddard isn't attempting to prover or disprove anything he's simply taking the data and rhetoric scientists are putting forth and comparing it to what they previously said and their are some very real inconsistencies. this global warming shit isn't science it's taking a premise and backing into it with fabricated numbers when the real numbers aren't proving what your boss is telling you to find
 

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I really don't give a shit what politicians think. I go by what experts think. I can provide you with tons of expert opinion, you guys have provided me with 3 non experts and bloggers over the past few days. I have neo cons and NFL trends providing blank statements without any science, just useless opinions such as, "the Earth warms and it cools." Do you guys think the expert know this? I have to go with the experts over the guys you guys provide or the neo base's OPINION but thats just me. I really hope you guys are right and the experts are wrong

Right.

You don't listen to politicians.

You just listen to "experts" funded by...politicians.

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more proof of just how desperate you global warming nutters are ... you're incredibly STILL publishing shit from Michael Mann who was caught manipulating data through a series of emails and charts.

interviewing him for climate change is like hiring kordell stewart to be your quarterback coach but you're so desperate to get wing nuts on your side you'll still publish stuff from a known fraud? insanity (btw, i had to bold the term distinguished...that is some funny shit)

[h=1]Slowdown of global warming fleeting[/h]
By A'ndrea Elyse Messer

April 7, 2014









UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. -- The recent slowdown in the warming rate of the Northern Hemisphere may be a result of internal variability of the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation -- a natural phenomenon related to sea surface temperatures, according to Penn State researchers.
"Some researchers have in the past attributed a portion of Northern Hemispheric warming to a warm phase of the AMO," said Michael E. Mann, Distinguished Professor of Meteorology. "The true AMO signal, instead, appears likely to have been in a cooling phase in recent decades, offsetting some of the anthropogenic warming temporarily."

According to Mann, the problem with the earlier estimates stems from having defined the AMO as the low frequency component that is left after statistically accounting for the long-term temperature trends, referred to as detrending.
 
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right...and ClimateGate never happened and Michael Mann never existed

fact is....yes FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist...basically work their way out of a job. This same manipulation of bullshit global warming data has been going on for decades and continues to be exposed without much fan fare because you global warming nuts gloss it over and keep reiterating a "97% of scientists" tag line that has been long since refuted.

Goddard isn't attempting to prover or disprove anything he's simply taking the data and rhetoric scientists are putting forth and comparing it to what they previously said and their are some very real inconsistencies. this global warming shit isn't science it's taking a premise and backing into it with fabricated numbers when the real numbers aren't proving what your boss is telling you to find

Rolltide fucking nailed it.

Read this over and over until you libtards get it through your ignorant thick skulls:

"FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist"

Follow the money trail, and corruption ensues.
 
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Actually, I provided a reference to 2 Nobel Prize winning climate scientists who are veterans of the IPCC (and distinguished in meteorology)

You can't stop lying.

I take that back your guys are climate scientists. Joe and RR's are not
 
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Rolltide fucking nailed it.

Read this over and over until you libtards get it through your ignorant thick skulls:

"FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist"

Follow the money trail, and corruption ensues.

You could also say that about Ian Plimer, he is not a climate scientist but you can follow the money trail and find out the real reasons he is against it. My beliefs have nothing to do with politics
 
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You could also say that about Ian Plimer, he is not a climate scientist but you can follow the money trail and find out the real reasons he is against it. My beliefs have nothing to do with politics

I would also suggest people google McNider and Christy and come to your own conclusion about what other experts say about their findings. There are going to be arguments on both sides. Lots of skeptics saying they manipulated their data. You decide
 

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Rolltide fucking nailed it.

Read this over and over until you libtards get it through your ignorant thick skulls:

"FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist"

Follow the money trail, and corruption ensues.

Just like everything throughout history. It's called human nature.

"Global warming" is ALL politics and ZERO science. Oh yeah, and big money...REALLY BIG money.

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"Despite all this, there has been not even the hint of a second thought from the climateers, nor any reflection that their opinions or strategies could bear some modification. The environmental community is so deeply invested in looming catastrophe that it’s difficult to envision a scientific result that would alter their cult-like bearing. Rather than reflect, they deflect, blaming the Koch brothers, the fossil fuel industry, and Republican “climate deniers” for their lack of political progress. Yet organized opposition to climate change fanaticism is tiny compared with the swollen staffs and huge marketing budgets of the major environmental organizations, not to mention the government agencies around the world that have thrown in with them on the issue.

The main energy trade associations seldom speak up about climate science controversies. The major conservative think tanks have no climate change programs to speak of. The Cato Institute devotes just two people to the issue. The main opposition to climate fanaticism is confined to the Heartland Institute, the London-based Global Warming Policy Foundation, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and a scattering of relentless bloggers who have acquired surprisingly large readerships.

That’s it. These are boutique operations next to the environmental establishment: The total budgets for all of these efforts would probably not add up to a month’s spending by just the Sierra Club. And yet we are to believe that this comparatively small effort has kept the climate change agenda at bay. It certainly keeps climateers in an uproar."
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Instead of confronting the fact that their cause has foundered mostly of its own dead weight—and the sheer fantasy of proposals for near-term replacement of hydrocarbon energy—the climate campaigners have steadily ratcheted up their bad-faith arguments and grasping authoritarianism. The result is a catalogue of exaggerated claims and appalling clichés, the most egregious being the refrain that “97 percent of scientists ‘believe in’ climate change.” This dubious talking point elides seamlessly into the implication that scientists should strive for unanimity and link arms in full support of the environmentalists’ carbon-suppression agenda."


http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/climate-cultists_794401.html
 

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What is wrong w our society. So many uneducated idiots about the reality of the universe. I just stumbled upon the political forum here and wow. Didn't realize this forum is run by a bunch of right wing lunatics
 

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What is wrong w our society. So many uneducated idiots about the reality of the universe. I just stumbled upon the political forum here and wow. Didn't realize this forum is run by a bunch of right wing lunatics

please enlighten us Antichrist Comrade from Chicago :)

looking forward to it
 

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What is wrong w our society. So many uneducated idiots about the reality of the universe. I just stumbled upon the political forum here and wow. Didn't realize this forum is run by a bunch of right wing lunatics

You sound like a real genius.
 

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right...and ClimateGate never happened and Michael Mann never existed

fact is....yes FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist...basically work their way out of a job. This same manipulation of bullshit global warming data has been going on for decades and continues to be exposed without much fan fare because you global warming nuts gloss it over and keep reiterating a "97% of scientists" tag line that has been long since refuted.

Goddard isn't attempting to prover or disprove anything he's simply taking the data and rhetoric scientists are putting forth and comparing it to what they previously said and their are some very real inconsistencies. this global warming shit isn't science it's taking a premise and backing into it with fabricated numbers when the real numbers aren't proving what your boss is telling you to find
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Rolltide fucking nailed it.

Read this over and over until you libtards get it through your ignorant thick skulls:

"FACT...is that when your organization be it a state university, NASA, or NOAA relies on the govt's allocation of citizen tax money to fund their, ahemm, research, these fuckers stop being scientists and just start changing the data to fit the premise the govt wants them to end with. If they don't, they lose their funding and cease to exist"

Follow the money trail, and corruption ensues.

I agree Zit. But keep that in mind the next time you feel the need to post a 'study' from a bible thumping 'scientist' that 'proves' you can 'fix' a guy so he wants to eat pussy instead of sucking cock.
 

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What is wrong w our society. So many uneducated idiots about the reality of the universe. I just stumbled upon the political forum here and wow. Didn't realize this forum is run by a bunch of right wing lunatics

Are you going to stay, or stumble back out?

We need new blood in here. But not the hit and run type.

How about starting a thread about an issue that's important to you and giving us your point of view?
 

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