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Rather than being PC like everyone else, I instinctively knew that Asians were less attractive than us and the Asians agreed. They are finally starting to have some self-confidence, but for years they looked down on themselves.



Japan Shampoo Ads Show Women's New Image
Monday August 27, 12:01 pm ET
By Yuri Kageyama, AP Business Writer
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Shampoo Ads Highlight Changing Image of Women in Japan

TOKYO (AP) -- Shampoo advertising in Japan typically featured glamorous blondes praising imports from Procter & Gamble and Unilever.
But ads for Tsubaki, the latest hit from local cosmetics maker Shiseido Co., feature famous Japanese women and an unusually direct slogan: "Japanese women are beautiful."

The message has struck a chord at a time when Japanese women are increasingly looking to role models in their own ranks, rather than stars from abroad, for definitions of their self worth. Advertisers are beginning to recognize that.

"Japanese women are starting to have confidence in themselves," says Yoko Kawashima of marketing company Itochu Fashion System Co.
For decades, beauty standards in Japan were dictated by the West, home to famous fashion houses like Christian Dior and Gucci, which remain extremely popular in Asia.

But now, young people are taking a different cue from Westerners and rediscovering sushi, manga animation, kimono and other elements of Japanese culture, said Kawashima, who has written a book about the success of Shiseido's branding strategy.

"Westerners are saying Japan is cool, and that view is winning acceptance in a kind of reverse import," she said. "Shiseido's advertising didn't even talk about the shampoo's features. Its message, that Japanese women on the go are beautiful, was more about a feeling."

Tsubaki (pronounced tsooh-bah-key) emerged No. 1 in shampoo sale rankings by business daily The Nikkei, a victory for the Tokyo-based company used to trailing Unilever, P&G and Japanese rival Kao Corp. The shampoo has chalked up $155 million in sales of 43 million bottles during its first year. Shiseido has no U.S. or European sales plans for Tsubaki.
Shiseido pumped $43 million into marketing and hired a dizzying array of Japanese faces to push Tsubaki. TV, magazine and billboard ads, feature models, actresses and a figure-skater. It hired a popular vocal group to perform an original song, singing the praises of Japanese women; the song became a hit.

"Our message really appealed to Japanese women, who are starting to awaken to a sense of self-confidence," said Hiroyuki Ishikawa, who oversees hair care at Shiseido. "Up to now, Japanese women haven't generally been chosen as global symbols of beauty."

Shiseido's campaign also introduced brand loyalty, which in Japan hasn't been linked to commodity products such as shampoo and detergent, said Kazuo Ikegami, business administration professor at Rissho University in Tokyo.

"Shiseido has totally changed the shampoo market," Ikegami said. "Tsubaki has become more like a Louis Vuitton bag."
The Tsubaki story reflects broader societal changes in Japan, and some say future marketing will choose images that are even closer to home.
Kaori Sasaki, who heads a communication consulting company, said Japanese businesses long viewed female consumers in three oversimplified categories -- the housewife, office worker and schoolgirl.

But that formula is rapidly growing obsolete as more women pursue ambitious careers and more mothers join the workforce, she said.
"Marketing is changing to reflect a changing lifestyle," Sasaki said. She noted a recent TV commercial for detergent that depicts a man doing the wash -- something once virtually unthinkable in male-dominated Japan.
Meanwhile, other shampoo makers are also featuring Japanese stars.
Departing with past marketing featuring Western beauties, P&G hired a Japanese actress to introduce H&S, a new shampoo developed for Japan, based on Head & Shoulders, which goes on sale Sept. 1.

Japan is a key market because Japanese use more shampoo than other nationalities, washing their hair an average of 6.4 times a week compared to Americans at 4.4 times, according to P&G.

Tsubaki's success came on the heels of Kao's success with its Asience shampoo, whose TV ads starred Chinese Hollywood actress Zhang Ziyi showing off her long black hair to the jealous gasps of Western women.
The latest Asience ads have added a female Japanese saxophone player and a Japanese beauty queen.
Sakura Ikeda, 31, an artist who makes miniature animals, is sold on Tsubaki.

"It makes my hair soft and moist," she said. "The ads have a groundbreaking feeling with all the women lined up with their hair swaying."
But the potency of Tsubaki's message to Japanese consumers may be hard for outsiders to grasp, even for experts.

"It's funny to me how traditional and formulaic it seems," said Bob Dorfman, Executive Creative Director of Pickett Advertising in San Francisco. "You could run it in the U.S., and it would hardly stand out -- attractive, young women shaking their lustrous hair, to the tune of a hip and energetic music track by a hot young band."

Dorfman sees as innovative Unilever's Dove ads in the U.S., which show women of all shapes and sizes to emphasize self-esteem and empowerment and celebrate the individual rather than manufactured beauty.

"By my American standards, there's nothing at all unique or new about this," he said of Tsubaki's ads. "Obviously, I'm missing the Japanese subtleties."
Shiseido's Tsubaki: http://www.shiseido.co.jp/tsubaki/
Unilever's Dove: http://www.canneslionslive.com/film/win--1--1--02120.htm
http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/flat4.asp?id7133
 

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Asain women are not my cup of tea either. Many seem to have flat faces and wide hips and thick thighs. Of course I am generalizing, but I am allowed to here in the RR
 

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Did your Asian lover leave you for an older man or did your older man leave you for an Asian?
 

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Asain women are not my cup of tea either. Many seem to have flat faces and wide hips and thick thighs. Of course I am generalizing, but I am allowed to here in the RR
That's what most of them look like and that's why they shampoo companies used blonde women for their ads.
 

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Levistep - do you beat off to tapes of the Hiroshama and Nagasaki bombings?
 

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why the hell is this stupid topic brought up again? Are you just obsessed to make your point?
 

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First of all, you site an article about Japenese woman - Japan would be lucky to be thought of with the third most attractive Asian women - Vietnam and Thailand should be #1 and #2. Actually Japan is probably closer to third from the bottom, ahead of Mongolia and China.

Second, maybe part of the attractiveness of Asian women in general is that they are modest and humble, would you prefer American women who think they are beautiful queens no matter how disgusting they are?
 

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you manage to master the cut and paste concept yet your knuckles still drag the ground while walking........fcuking amazing
 

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why the hell is this stupid topic brought up again? Are you just obsessed to make your point?
Until people start acknowledging that i'm right. If the point wasn't of contention, i wouldn't bring it up.
 

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Don't confuse his blind hatred with facts
Hasty generalization, is a logical fallacy of faulty generalization by reaching an inductive generalization based on insufficient evidence. It commonly involves basing a broad conclusion upon the statistics of a survey of a small group that fails to sufficiently represent the whole population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Btw, Miss Universe isn't a beauty pagent. Even if it were, read above. Which evidence is more accurate? Your hasty generalization that Asians aren't ugly because a Japanese woman is Miss Universe, or a multi-million dollar advertisement research that decided white blonde women are more attractive. Oooh oohhh, I know which one!

Keep living in your fantasy world where everyone is 100% equal.
 

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If you want your children to be strong and healthy you should look for someone outside of your own race. Mixed race people are generally more beautiful than single race people.

Don't believe me?
http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20051221-000001.html

Attractiveness is directly linked with genetic health. This makes sense since nature has made it so that we are sexually attracted to genetically healthier people.

Inbreeding leads to a shallow genetic pool and thus leads to uglier people. The opposite is also true, that a diverse genetic pool leads to healthier genetic people since those people with more diverse genes are less likely to be affected by genetic abnormalities and are more resistant to genetic diseases.

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Hasty generalization, is a logical fallacy of faulty generalization by reaching an inductive generalization based on insufficient evidence. It commonly involves basing a broad conclusion upon the statistics of a survey of a small group that fails to sufficiently represent the whole population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Btw, Miss Universe isn't a beauty pagent. Even if it were, read above. Which evidence is more accurate? Your hasty generalization that Asians aren't ugly because a Japanese woman is Miss Universe, or a multi-million dollar advertisement research that decided white blonde women are more attractive. Oooh oohhh, I know which one!

Keep living in your fantasy world where everyone is 100% equal.
The definition you quoted can be applied to your own words.

You claim Asian women are not attractive and lack confidence because of one ad campaign you happen to run across.

How do we know that ad campaign wasn't some American ad executive trying to ram down their own image of beauty on the Japanese woman consumer. Furthermore, Japan only is a country with a population of 125-130 million people. "Asian" countries likely have in total a population of 1.5 billion. How does one ad speak for 1.5 billion people?

If someone says, "the Rx is a racist bigoted forum" because they happen to read your post - by your bigoted Hitler like logic, that is correct!
 

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your an idiot levi. I won't feel sorry for you when people start clowning whatever race you are. Btw, what race are you?
 

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Until people start acknowledging that i'm right. If the point wasn't of contention, i wouldn't bring it up.

well sounds like your days are really busy looking for more proof. Gosh I hope you don't have kids. It'd be a shame if your DNA was infected into other people.
 

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