not saying there haven't been glitches, I'll look up those stories later, can't pull them up on my iPhone, like I said there are some who
it had negatively affected. I say yes don't make it mandatory but if you don't have insurance and can't afford to pay then
you get no treatment. people would change their tune. people are
idiots complaining about paying $300 a month for an individual plan to have piece of mind / healthcare
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young healthy people should subsidize health care otherwise it's going to fail. it's like paying it forward until they get old. Plus young healthy people can have catastrophic events or get sick at anytime. it would be like saying I shouldn't have to have insurance on my car when I drive cause I'm a good driver and won't get into any accidents. I think it's funny how many people who can easily afford this are bitching. do they want it to be free?
No, it's not like saying I shouldn't have to have insurance on my car when I drive cause I'm a good driver and won't get into any accidents.
Who said anything about free? $225 a month is actually pretty damn expensive for a "young invincible". You are in favor of young, healthy people picking up the tab for everyone else. Good for you. We can end this discussion there.
saying what all I have said and what everyone else has said it's still a
work in progress, I truly believe if we had close to 100 % participation it would
be a success. lots of gloom and doomers out there. The right wing base has done very little and has resorted to nothing but scare tactics and gloom. let the people decide. Remember when Palin and the Faux crew were talking about Obama's death panels? laughable
work in progress, I truly believe if we had close to 100 % participation it would
be a success. lots of gloom and doomers out there. The right wing base has done very little and has resorted to nothing but scare tactics and gloom. let the people decide. Remember when Palin and the Faux crew were talking about Obama's death panels? laughable
You are combining two issues here. We were discussing whether young healthy people paying more to subsidize the cost of healthcare is appropriate, not whether or not it should be mandatory to have insurance. Based on what we are discussing it would be more along the lines of saying I have an incident free driving record, I shouldn't have to pay more to subsidize the guy with 5 tickets and 4 accidents.
It became our problem because progressives decided to intervene and make laws which force a third party payer to bear the economic consequences of an individual's poor decision making. Insurance only became necessary once healthcare costs spiralled out of control.
If there's one thing people should take away from this horrible social experiment of government intervention in medicine over the last few decades it is this: moral hazard is the cause of medical price hyperinflation.
To reverse medical price hyperinflation requires the elimination of the moral hazard. Either everyone has to pay for the care they choose (or not choose - in the case of irresponsible people who refuse to buy insurance and then get sick or have an accident, like your friend), or insurance companies or the government will have to make medical decisions on the behalf on their behalf ("death panels").
Nothing else will work.
I realize the concept of everyone paying for their own healthcare (except catastrophic coverage) sounds horrifying and inconceivable, but again, if everyone pays for themselves, then the moral hazard goes away and prices will fall as fast as prices of computers.
In these modern times, going to get medical treatment for most illnesses and accidents should be as easy as walking into a Walmart or Costco clinic and paying $40-50 cash to be treated.
That's how free market healthcare used to work...until progressives screwed up an entire industry with one dysfunctional government mandate piled on top of another. Obamacare being the latest clusterfuck.
I understand what you are saying but that doesn't happen with car insurance,if car insurance wasn't mandatory you can surely bet we would be, the insured premiums would be higher. imagine if let's say 1/3 of those insured decided to say screw it, I'm not paying auto insurance, we wouldn't be subsidizing them but we would have to pay more.
health insurance is different cause everyone will use it, not everyone drives. plus we have children involved and elderly who suck up a lot of costs. without the young healthy person's money health care would cave
