MIKE SILVER OF GAMBLERS AVENUE....

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RPM - Have missed you around here.

As for Mike Silver. He is a liar. He is smooth talker, but a liar none the less. It is clear that if Royal doesn't step in we are out all our money (Sting, Mike, and this NBAlive ghost might say otherwise in public, but everyone else is fairly clear on the truth). Thanks to Royal, we can all just dislike Mike. No Royal stepping in, and at least I personally HATE Mike with a passion.

Now in the end did Mike agree to turn over the customer database, software, and give up the name and company rather than just run? Yeah. But just because we get a good shot at our money doesn't mean he isn't a liar and a bad guy. No way either he or Fredd should come out of this clean.

I am venting a bit, but I hate getting PERSONALLY lied to.
 

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"(Mike Silver) IS NOT A CROOK, OR A THIEF. he is a good guy, and NOT ONE PERSON has lost anything."

rpm, Mike Silver may not be a crook/thief--but how in the hell can you call him a 'good guy?' That's as stupid as when you called yourself, 'a proven winner.' He lied (including to your boss and peers) and continued trying to get money into his book with ridiculous bonus promises right up until the end. He quite probably would have screwed players out of their money if Royal hadn't bailed him out.

I applaud Royal for bailing GA out and offering some recourse for those that would have been screwed by GA, but neither MS nor Fredd are 'good guys.' Far from it! And this site (The Rx) is very much to blame for pumping up GA--new book, but solid, etc., etc., etc.

(How in the hell did a site that offers 20 cent baseball lines, no props, and no money lines on other sports, run into financial problems???)

Here's a hypothetical case that I am sure holds for many smaller gamblers w/ money at GA: new site offers juicy bonuses and is strongly backed by The Prescription, so many gamblers put a signifiacant portion of their entire bankroll into GA. They happened to win at GA, but haven't quite met the 5x rollover requirement, so can't withdraw any funds. At the same time, maybe they are losing money at other outs. Now, they have to keep GA money at Royal for another 5x rollover -- they are strapped financially. Are you going to loan them the rent money? Don't be naive, many gamblers play right on the edge - that's why 'IF' bets are offered.

Quit defending these screw-ups.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RPM:
IS NOT A CROOK, OR A THIEF. he is a good guy, and NOT ONE PERSON has lost anything.

comparing mike silver to owners of nab or aces is at best, pathetic. mike didnt steal anything.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's hard to believe we still see such incredibly naive and inaccurate posts like this even after all the books that have lied to, and then stolen from, players in just the last 2 years.

Mike stole the players' postup monies, and the only difference between him and the other thieves and liars that went before him is that he was very fortunate to have someone bail his customers out after he was through picking their pockets.
 

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RPM-

What things of value did GA sell to Royal? Names, Email Addys for gamblers? No customer balances!!!! Guess who owns those...
Correct..the players.

Now I'm not going to call the guy a thief but what GA did was pretty damn close to stealing.
 

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RPM- Mike is out for Mike and nobody else. This guy lied to my face last month and had every intent on stealing your/our money if he couldn't come out with someone to bail him out at the last second he would of bailed.
 

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I wonder what the chances are of Surfrat posting again.
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Anyone who believes the guys running Gamblers Avenue are good guys who weren't lying is a retard.

Not trying to offend anyone but nobody can be that stupid. Unless of course they are being paid to be
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Samurai:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RPM:
IS NOT A CROOK, OR A THIEF. he is a good guy, and NOT ONE PERSON has lost anything.

comparing mike silver to owners of nab or aces is at best, pathetic. mike didnt steal anything.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's hard to believe we still see such incredibly naive and inaccurate posts like this even after all the books that have lied to, and then stolen from, players in just the last 2 years.

Mike stole the players' postup monies, and the only difference between him and the other thieves and liars that went before him is that he was very fortunate to have someone bail his customers out after he was through picking their pockets.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RPM IS RETARDED BEYOND BELIEF!!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NBAlive2005:
Mike Silver is sure a good guy!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why weren't you swalloed? Idiots like you just show how someone can be so blind & clueless!
 

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"And to defend the employees because they were just doing their job is analagous to defending Hitler's soldiers who were just taking orders. "

Great analogy...and you are absolutely correct dude!
 

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However, I must say when talking to Mike on AOL IM he appeared to be a good guy...and on a few occassions I admit he actually helped me out when I had an altercation with another person at another forum.... He is a good guy - but I really wasn't expecting this whole situation to develop - I guess I really can say Trust No One in this industry?!?
 

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Getting a rollover isn't the same as getting your money, is it? The General has every right to be pissed off and anyone that defends Silver is full of shit.
 

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Jerkoffs like Silver make me laugh. They run their operation into the ground and then try to portray themselves as saviors by getting another book to give you a bail out offer. "Oh great instead of having my money I have to bet 5 times my money and hope I don't lose or piss it away in vig playing scalps and middles." Unfortunately there are people naive enough to believe this crap. This situation has Mark Delfloppo written all over it.
 

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Naw, everyone would have gotten paid their money.... Just ask Ole Sting. He KNOWS Mike real well and thinks he's a great guy. Yeah, he'd have paid everyone all their money... yeah, and if my aunt had balls, was 40 years younger and 150 lbs bigger she'd be in the NFL. I don't know who's more full of shit, Silver or Sting.
 

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Krack,
Im glad you posted your story.

RPM
It is the same as having 25% of your money stolen and the rest pf it withheld. As a whole players will have less money. Especially the type who played there.
 

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