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1. You don't have to support BLM to support racial policies or advocate for your group
2. Show me the mainstream white groups advocating for white people and the support they get. Is it anywhere near that? Where are the recent racial policies specific to benefit white people? Don't tell me minoprities aren't getting a push for themselves. I don't want to hear NOT ALL

Why is it you can't seem to address a single thing I said? You're the one that started this thing with all your "they" bullshit. Stop wasting my time if all you're going to do is dodge and deflect everything said to you. My comments can stand on their merits and you clearly can't refute a thing that's been said so maybe you ought to just stop with your stereotyping.
 

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Couldn't the same be said by judging all Blacks by the actions of BLM? We have over 328 million people in this country (over 40 million are Black). Both sides of the aisle can be brainwashed into narratives pushed by the media.

I'm pretty darn sure across the board, no nationalities support looting and vandelism.
Just keep in mind, you can't fix stupid.
 

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Why is it you can't seem to address a single thing I said? You're the one that started this thing with all your "they" bullshit. Stop wasting my time if all you're going to do is dodge and deflect everything said to you. My comments can stand on their merits and you clearly can't refute a thing that's been said so maybe you ought to just stop with your stereotyping.


What specifically would you like me to address? Because all black people don't don't do something it doesn't count lmao
 

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And one more while I'm at it about painting people with broad strokes....

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Looking at the extremes, there are practically the same about of Blacks that think BLM won't have much impact at all as the ones that say it will be very impactful (myself being in the former category). The middle column (somewhat) is pretty close to what all nationalities are saying.
You can put down for Not At All. If they were sincere that would be one thing but their
sole purpose is to stir the pot. They are no better than Pelosi and her crew.
 

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You can put down for Not At All. If they were sincere that would be one thing but their
sole purpose is to stir the pot. They are no better than Pelosi and her crew.

Of course it is and as usual, the media is complicit and a willing partner. Funny how naive some people can be and let themselves get so worked up about it. Every election cycle, it's the same broken record...race, women's rights, immigration, gun control, and maybe a dash of health care and social security. And every cycle we have the hot heads come on this board and completely loose their marbles. They start pointing fingers and stereotyping groups, and sit there and get worked up over the same bullshit propaganda that they accuse others of believing.
 

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86% of black people support BLM and you are saying that me saying black people are advocating for themselves is stereotyping? They have strong financial and media backing. This isn't sopme radical black nationalist small group saying ridiculous nonsense
 

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Think they support black lives. Not the BLM group with marxist and Ex terrorist on the board
 

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86% of black people support BLM and you are saying that me saying black people are advocating for themselves is stereotyping? They have strong financial and media backing. This isn't sopme radical black nationalist small group saying ridiculous nonsense

Uh huh and so by that measure the statement that the majority of white support BLM (61%), the majority of Hispanics support BLM (77%), and the majority of Asians support BLM (75%) would also be correct. Is that better? Exactly who are you representing in this group again?

The bottom line is there are many people of all nationalities that don't support their tactics. Or do you think if the pollsters asked these nationalities how they feel about the group looting, vandalizing, and creating violence, the majority would be in favor of it? I seriously doubt it. Not to mention, it's a small group that is being glorified by a complicit media and one party, but do continue to let yourself get worked up over it. I'm not too concerned as time usually will do it's thing and momentum runs out on things like this and it's on to the next thing. Hard to believe there are people like you out there that haven't seen this before and get as worked up as you do. Feel free to continue to be an asshole and group entire groups of people with your "they" bullshit.
 

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It is pretty easy to say you support "the movement" when you don't really know what it is or it is tied up in a nice neat package for mass consumption.

Most white Americans don't support wealth redistribution from whites to blacks, affirmative action programs, curtailing of speech/gun rights or HUD schemes to change the demographics of their neighborhood. Amongst other things....Blacks pretty much support all of these policies/viewpoints. They're a largely monolithic voting bloc (vote Dem 90/10) that thinks the country is systemically racist against them and should have to atone for its prior acts of discrimination.

We can tie this up in neat little "Oh they don't support looting and vandalism" all we want, but there are vast differences that are going to be hard to reconcile in the future. And when you have differences like this, a % of it is going to spill over into the streets...

I don't think Exploited is saying blacks support looting/vandalism by an overwhelming amount, but he's saying their opposition to it is pretty mild whereas in other areas about race relations it is far more intense.

If that is a little uncomfortable for some, I dunno what to say really, just kinda is what it is.
 

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cheersgifyou speak for many people SR , beautiful ...... absolutely beautiful
 

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It is pretty easy to say you support "the movement" when you don't really know what it is or it is tied up in a nice neat package for mass consumption.

Most white Americans don't support wealth redistribution from whites to blacks, affirmative action programs, curtailing of speech/gun rights or HUD schemes to change the demographics of their neighborhood. Amongst other things....Blacks pretty much support all of these policies/viewpoints. They're a largely monolithic voting bloc (vote Dem 90/10) that thinks the country is systemically racist against them and should have to atone for its prior acts of discrimination.

We can tie this up in neat little "Oh they don't support looting and vandalism" all we want, but there are vast differences that are going to be hard to reconcile in the future. And when you have differences like this, a % of it is going to spill over into the streets...

If that is a little uncomfortable for some, I dunno what to say really, just kinda is what it is.

Uh, I would suggest that those that have worked hard and done well by their merits, regardless of nationality don't support wealth redistribution. It's much more determined by income. And I suspect you can take any nationality below the median income and find more in favor of redistribution . Nothing uncomfortable at all about it. I'm just in favor of rational conversations.
 

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Uh, I would suggest that those that have worked hard and done well by their merits, regardless of nationality don't support wealth redistribution. It's much more determined by income. And I suspect you can take any nationality below the median income and find more in favor of redistribution . Nothing uncomfortable at all about it. I'm just in favor of rational conversations.

Perhaps not perfectly objective data but pretty sure rich/upper class/upwardly mobile blacks vote overwhelmingly democrat (increased taxation that funds social safety nets which disproportionately goes to minorities), want massive social spending on programs that the bulk of it would go to minorities and even some of them (like the 3rd richest black guy in the US, Robert Johnson) support outright direct cash payments as reparations (as well as support other programs that favor blacks over a complete meritocratic society with programs like affirmative action, quotas, diversity hiring....)

Sure, a large percentage of whites are for this as well but not nearly as large as blacks.
 

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Think they support black lives. Not the BLM group with marxist and Ex terrorist on the board

Many good people are confused because BLM has taken a harshly radical position as their power has increased.
Folks think there is some kind of separate Black Lives Matter movement that has different goals from the BLM organization.

The Black Lives Matter organizers that started the movement after the Trayvon events are the same people in charge of the organization today.
They have embraced a "by any means necessary" approach to accomplishing their goals of tearing down the US and rebuilding
it in their vision..I suspect that even they are surprised at fast this is happening.

This goes way beyond the peaceful fighting of injustice mantra that they preached in the beginning(and now falsely claim on website)
and it happened so fast that people still think that is what BLM is about

Feel free to read their website, dont take my word for it-take theirs- in many ways they are very forthcoming about their vision of dismantling the nuclear family, defunding the police among other nasty bites that most people do not understand.
Please read carefully and you will see that it is also anti man or more specifically anti "straight man"

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

If you really cared about Black Lives then how could you read their entire website , hear their deafening silence as Black men, women and CHILDREN are being killed on a daily basis and continue to blindly advocate a group that will only further divide the country and
destroy the black community.

That is why you must not be afraid of using TRUE LOVE and exposing people to the truth, even though many will try
to brand you as a racist(that is their main weapon against the truth.)
I will continue to do so while trying not to attack too harshly those that disagree; less they retreat further into their defensive
shell and double down just to protect their ego.

Many good and caring people are fighting for the Devil and we owe it to them and our fellow humans to expose this group
for the EVIL that they really are
 

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Perhaps not perfectly objective data but pretty sure rich/upper class/upwardly mobile blacks vote overwhelmingly democrat (increased taxation that funds social safety nets which disproportionately goes to minorities), want massive social spending on programs that the bulk of it would go to minorities and even some of them (like the 3rd richest black guy in the US, Robert Johnson) support outright direct cash payments as reparations (as well as support other programs that favor blacks over a complete meritocratic society with programs like affirmative action, quotas, diversity hiring....)

Sure, a large percentage of whites are for this as well but not nearly as large as blacks.

You mentioned redistribution and I'm pretty sure I gave you an objective comment. I know plenty of people that are very good with shielding their money from taxation, so voting specifically by party doesn't necessarily equate to their money, does it?
 

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/us/reparations-poll-trnd/index.html

Is that objective enough for you? Or are you saying you think the more well off blacks don't support this?

edit: just to answer your edit...No, voting doesn't perfectly correspond with how you feel about fiscal issues like taxation, but it is obviously highly correlated.

Do you think well off blacks aren't for Obamacare? A program that redistributes money/resources to blacks.
 

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/us/reparations-poll-trnd/index.html

Is that objective enough for you? Or are you saying you think the more well off blacks don't support this?

I think I clearly stated my point. We don't live in France. To revisit your comment, it's easy to say you're in favor of something if you truly don't believe it's going to impact you. Isn't that kinda your argument above regarding support of BLM? If I'm a rich black guy who knows how to work the system, why would I care. And again, what percentage of people below median income is in favor of some kind of handout?
 

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