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Henry will win the Heisman.

Without him, Bama would not be in the playoffs.

Same can be said about Watson. I really dont care about the Heisman....it has gotten watered down
 

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Same can be said about Watson. I really don't care about the Heisman....it has gotten watered down

For those in this (CFB) forum that rely on statistics and rankings to put a player's (or a team's) strengths and weaknesses into perspective,
here's a link to an all-encompassing breakdown of stats with respect to "who else" put up similar numbers in a specific statistical category.

Note that the tables here are tabbed across the top so as to enable the viewer to choose team stats vs. individual stats, single game vs.
cumulative season to date in a variety of ways. I often find myself hanging out on this page for 30 minutes or more gathering useful
information by "linking" from here to there as more and more questions pop into my head.

So check this out.
I'm sure that many people wind up getting lost in a myriad of possibilities that their imaginations might dream up...
or maybe it's a "cherry picker's" dream come true?

Initially I went there to see what kind of company Derrick Henry had in season rushing totals. Honestly I was looking for some degree
of separation between Henry and the "field" which is a certain sign that could indicate that he is special and deserving. But what RB do
you think made a strong 2nd place finish in the rushing yards category? Of course that would be Christian McCaffrey just 150 yards
behind Derrick Henry for the season... a clear cut win for Henry but by no means a blowout.

Sticking to the "degree of separation" theory as a possible indication of clear cut superiority in a relevant statistical area (all-purpose yards)
It ought to be considered a major factor in the Heisman vote. McCaffrey's total of all-purpose yards for a single season broke a record set
by Barry Sanders 28 years ago, roughly 10 years before Christian McCaffrey was born. In so doing, Christian ended up about 900 yards
ahead of the second place finisher for the year. That in itself is a remarkable accomplishment.
(See the lower left corner of the above linked page.)
 

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Name me a school that's had more starting backs in the NFL in a season. Let's see, Ingram, Lacey, Richardson, Yeldon,......I like Henry's chances here since he ran heads and shoulders above that crew.

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Lynch, CJ Anderson, Forsett, Vereen

Vereen and Anderson I'll give props. The other two, fogetta about it. These men, and I do mean Men, from BAMA are running backs from another planet. I played against Georgia in 1981 when Herschel was running up and down the carpet. I had the No. 1 RB in the state of Tennessee on my high school team, and I'd never seen anything like this. Henry is Walker and then some imo.

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Here's that link again in case you aren't able to navigate to the right place;
Just click on the "individual" tab at the top of the table.

This is the right link...

I am in agreement with you. CMac struggled against the ND D, which plays some sort of negative toward him in my book. That being said, Im not in the Henry camp either. Give me a vote and i am voting for Watson. Take him off Clemson, they dont sniff the playoffs. The same may can be said of CMac, but watching the ND game, Hogan played very well. Henry is a talent, but I am pretty sure Bama could plug and play. JMHO.
 

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After he had a much better championship day then Henry looking for opinions here.
Does anyone think McCaffrey may have passed Henry in the Heisman voting?

No doubt in my mind, McCaffrey had a "stellar" performance than Henry in their respective Conf Champ games. McCaffrey's performance last weekend, reminded me of the performance that Reggie Bush had against Fresno St that made Bush win the Heisman. McCaffrey should be crowned the Heisman winner as he also was consistent in all of the games he had throughout the season.
 

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I am in agreement with you. CMac struggled against the ND D, which plays some sort of negative toward him in my book. That being said, Im not in the Henry camp either. Give me a vote and i am voting for Watson. Take him off Clemson, they dont sniff the playoffs. The same may can be said of CMac, but watching the ND game, Hogan played very well. Henry is a talent, but I am pretty sure Bama could plug and play. JMHO.

Spoken like a true Chubb fan, LOL. Bama doesn't get to where it's at w/o Henry. I'm already on record stating I played a game against Walker and Henry is better in my view. IMHO, Henry is the best back, talent and attitude, that Bama has ever had. He wins hands down.

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Vereen and Anderson I'll give props. The other two, fogetta about it. These men, and I do mean Men, from BAMA are running backs from another planet. I played against Georgia in 1981 when Herschel was running up and down the carpet. I had the No. 1 RB in the state of Tennessee on my high school team, and I'd never seen anything like this. Henry is Walker and then some imo.

~T~

And he's plenty tuff....The pounding he took from these SEC defenses who "keyed" on him all season long was brutal (most recently the Florida game) and he walked away in one-piece. You have to give the Kid credit, he is a "battering ram" who is very quick on his feet.....Definitely a high first-round NFL draft pick
 

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Taking RBs in the beginning of the first round is no long in vogue in the NFL draft and I wonder if Bama may have over used Henry just a bit causing some NFL teams to be somewhat concerned about the amount of tread left on those tires?
 

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Taking RBs in the beginning of the first round is no long in vogue in the NFL draft and I wonder if Bama may have over used Henry just a bit causing some NFL teams to be somewhat concerned about the amount of tread left on those tires?
what's funny is that i was worried about this from high school. He was incredibly overused by his HS coach and now just had a season of most carries in SEC in 34 years and against a lot of tough boys (8 top-50 rush defenses....MSU will make it 9)

at Yulee HS he carried it 1387 times including 462 his senior year and >300 in all four seasons. Also caught 47 balls and played both ways as both SO and JR

btw the 462 single-season HS rushing attempts was close to an all-time record which is why i was concerned about his Bama productivity. Obviously he's pretty damn successful but I agree about the tread on the tires as he did not redshirt at Bama. He's a workout psycho but only so many hits before the body starts breaking down
 

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what's funny is that i was worried about this from high school. He was incredibly overused by his HS coach and now just had a season of most carries in SEC in 34 years and against a lot of tough boys (8 top-50 rush defenses....MSU will make it 9)

at Yulee HS he carried it 1387 times including 462 his senior year and >300 in all four seasons. Also caught 47 balls and played both ways as both SO and JR

btw the 462 single-season HS rushing attempts was close to an all-time record which is why i was concerned about his Bama productivity. Obviously he's pretty damn successful but I agree about the tread on the tires as he did not redshirt at Bama. He's a workout psycho but only so many hits before the body starts breaking down

Didn't work out so well for Montee Ball as he now can't even make an NFL roster. Granted, Wisconsin has a long line of NFL busts at the RB position as its really their offensive line doing the dirty work and the back just runs through the holes and tries not to fumble.
 

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what's funny is that i was worried about this from high school. He was incredibly overused by his HS coach and now just had a season of most carries in SEC in 34 years and against a lot of tough boys (8 top-50 rush defenses....MSU will make it 9)

at Yulee HS he carried it 1387 times including 462 his senior year and >300 in all four seasons. Also caught 47 balls and played both ways as both SO and JR

btw the 462 single-season HS rushing attempts was close to an all-time record which is why i was concerned about his Bama productivity. Obviously he's pretty damn successful but I agree about the tread on the tires as he did not redshirt at Bama. He's a workout psycho but only so many hits before the body starts breaking down

RT, I work out every morning, upsidedown Bpresses every day. Henry could whoop my ass in anything, running, I give myself a chance since I ran scared every play. The kid is everything you want in a player. I've listened to several of his conversations with the sports folks, and this guy is the real deal. As previously stated, I'll go running down Piedmont Row naked if Watson wins. LMFAO!

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Didn't work out so well for Montee Ball as he now can't even make an NFL roster. Granted, Wisconsin has a long line of NFL busts at the RB position as its really their offensive line doing the dirty work and the back just runs through the holes and tries not to fumble.
not sure you should be comparing a dude that is 5'9" 215lb to Derrick Henry :)
 

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LOL, I give props to the right players when due. I hit the field in Tuscaloosa twice, they barely beat us 24-23 my first year. They'd had Henry, no doubt in my mind it would have been nasty. (check that score, might be off a point or two, age is starting to catch up).

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Looks like his little bro Dylan is a current 4 star high school QB being recruited by Michigan, Colorado, Duke, Nebraska, and Penn St. Seems like Dylan got his father's height gene at 6'-5".
 

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From ESPN, I was not aware of the stat about running in traffic. Thats impressive for a guy who is not perceived to be a pounder. But I think it's Henry's to lose....


Christian McCaffrey, RB, StanfordStats: 319 carries, 1,847 yards; 41 rec., 540 yards; 13 total TD
Christian McCaffrey has amassed more yards in 2015 than any player in college football history. And since "outstanding player" is the chief stated criteria of the Heisman Trophy, that fact alone should lock up this award for the Stanford sophomore.
But we can delve deeper into just how transcendent McCaffrey's 2015 has been: His 3,496 all-purpose yards are already over 200 better than Barry Sanders' previous NCAA record -- 3,250 -- which stood for 27 years. There's a still a bowl game left to be played, and since McCaffrey is averaging more yards per touch (8.4) than Sanders did in 1988, expect his new mark to stand for quite some time (unless McCaffrey breaks it himself next year, of course).
McCaffrey's all-purpose total is also over 1,000 yards better than any other college football player this year. His stat line looks like it's dangling in the destructive wake of an omnipotent video game cheat code, especially when compared to other performers. Simply put, there has never been a statistical discrepancy this big in the history of the Heisman Trophy race.
McCaffrey can run in traffic -- he leads the country in runs of 10-plus yards against boxes containing eight or more defenders this year -- and he can deliver in space, a skill evidenced by his national top-10 rank in kick return average. That's a mind-blowing combination. McCaffrey is also the only player in the nation to lead his team in both rushing yards and receiving yards. Of course, he also paces the country in yards from scrimmage.
McCaffrey can do it all, and he's the only Heisman finalist who can legitimately say that. Heck, he has even thrown two touchdown passes, and that has earned him a higher quarterback rating than Deshaun Watson, who actually plays the position. OK, I know the sample size there is small so that's a joke, but the point remains: McCaffrey has proved to be one of the most versatile players to ever play college football. The numbers here don't lie: He has made the type of history that has pushed even the great Barry Sanders to the side.
Aside from securing a spot as the country's most outstanding player in 2015, surpassing Sanders is a ticket to college football immortality. McCaffrey has shattered prior standards of performance in much more profound ways than his competition, so he should win this year's Heisman Trophy. -- David Lombardi
 

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