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No evidence? But you and your best bud, crude, mock evidence.

Try your analytics on this crude.

From one of your favorite news sources, CNN:

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More adults in the US say they identify as LGBTQ than they did a decade ago, according to a new Gallup poll, a trend largely propelled by Gen Z adults.

The percentage of adults who told Gallup they identify as LGBTQ has doubled since 2012, per the polling firm, from 3.5% of Americans then to 7.1% of Americans in 2021.

The rise can be attributed to Gen Z, according to Gallup – about 21% of adults born between 1997 and 2003 identify as LGBTQ. Meanwhile, 10.5% of millennials, the generation that includes adults born between 1981 and 1996, identify as LGBTQ, per the poll, and the percentages dwindle among the preceding generations.

Like Pats said many posts ago. It must be in the new water people drink, huh?

People really think over 20% is genetic? So 30 years ago the # was 20% and they just lived in silence?

> 1/5? Really? Cmon use common sense

Yeah Vito in sopranos didn’t wanna come out because they would shove a pool stick up his ass, but the number of the genetic is not 20% lol.
 

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Because people are coming out of the closet more then even because it’s more socially acceptable . It’s not because there are more gay people now .

approximately 3.5% or the population is gay .
Catch up, Chop. I posted an article very recently from CNN on this subject. The numbers they cite are very different that 3.5%.
 

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People really think over 20% is genetic? So 30 years ago the # was 20% and they just lived in silence?

> 1/5? Really? Cmon use common sense

Yeah Vito in sopranos didn’t wanna come out because they would shove a pool stick up his ass, but the number of the genetic is not 20% lol.
poor Vito. He was willing to make Tony money while staying close but not to close in Vegas.

Phil just wouldn't allow it. Phil did spend 20 years in the can. Its amazing how he never talked about it.
 
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That excerpt? LOL
WTF are you chuckling about you clown?

There are countless cases of people who lived the gay lifestyle, and have left it. I cited the case of the militant dyke activist lesbian, who
was the head of the queer studies dept. at Syracuse University who is now happily hetero married (for many years w/ kids...) who wrote
a book about her journey out of homosexuality:

https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Thoughts-Unlikely-Convert-Expanded/dp/1884527809

Why did you conveniently choose to ignore that one? She's one of thousands.

Oh wait, I forgot:

- If you are gay and you go straight, well you must still be gay
- If you are straight and you go gay ,well you were gay all along
 

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If your response is who gives a shit how people wanna label themselves then that’s fine, whatever. To each their own.

but anyone saying 20% is genetic and the true # because it is more socially accepted now is suspending all rational thought
 

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Catch up, Chop. I posted an article very recently from CNN on this subject. The numbers they cite are very different that 3.5%.
It's amazing the math you learned with an 8th grade education.

Is your handle inspired after the sculptor or the turtle? Both were very gay fyi...
 

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Who the fuck knows why anyone would choose to be gay. But they are clearly making that choice. Does evidence mean nothing to you?

I analyze evidence all the time. It's called intelligent handicapping. It's not that hard.
Oh okay, millions of straight people are choosing to be gay, since it's obviously advantageous

Got it, makes sense now. Thanks
 

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Who the fuck knows why anyone would choose to be gay. But they are clearly making that choice. Does evidence mean nothing to you?

I analyze evidence all the time. It's called intelligent handicapping. It's not that hard.
Oh okay, millions of straight people are choosing to be gay, since it's obviously advantageous

Got it, makes sense now. Thanks
 

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You're an ass. A phony pompous ass. I know what those words mean. Do you?
I would suggest you keep it respectful when addressing me. Even Magaking and Greenbacks have learned that...

Follow their lead.
 
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Three childish statements.

Keep religion out of it. This has nothing to do with religion. Did CNN cite religion?

Whether I'm homophobic or not has nothing to do with the facts which are that many, many more young people today are choosing to be gay than ever before in the history of this country. The bullshit narrative with absolutely no scientific evidence to prove it that people are "born gay' is just that a bullshit narrative.

The evidence clearly shows that more and more young people are choosing relationships that are out of what was forever the heterosexual norm. You do know that homosexuality was considered a mental illness by all reputable psychoanalysts and psychologists before the 1970s don't you.

Life has changed. Choices have changed.

And... homosexuality was only declassified in 1973 as a mental illness by the APA because of bullying by militant activists.

"For 23 years homosexuality had been listed as a mental disorder by the APA. Why was it decided, at that particular point in time, that it was not pathological? I do not have the space to go into a detailed analysis of the history leading up to the APA’s decision.15 Nonetheless, it is a misconception to think that this came about only after dispassionate and scholarly discussion, and only after listening equally to all sides of the issue. Also, it is important to note that the APA’s vote was anything but unanimous. In the three years leading up to the 1973 APA meeting, the previous national meetings had been repeatedly disrupted by gay activists. At the 1970 meeting in San Francisco certain sessions were broken up with shouts and jeers, prohibiting any rational discussion or debate. At the APA’s 1971 meeting in Washington, threats and intimidation accomplished what discussion could not. Ronald Bayer, in a work sympathetic toward homosexuality and the gay rights movement, recounts: “Using forged credentials, gay activists gained access to the exhibit area and, coming across a display marketing aversive conditioning [i.e., punishing an organism whenever it makes a particular response] techniques for the treatment of homosexuals, demanded its removal. Threats were made against the exhibitor, who was told that unless his booth was dismantled, it would be torn down. After frantic behind-the-scenes consultations, and in an effort to avoid violence, the convention leadership agreed to have the booth removed.”16 These tactics continued in the same manner at the APA’s 1972 national meeting. It was against this backdrop that the association’s trustees finally made its controversial 1973 decision. When a referendum on this was sent out to all 25,000 APA members, only a quarter of them returned their ballots. The final tally was 58 percent favoring the removal of homosexuality from their list of disorders. Four years later, Dr. Charles Socarides — who was at the meetings and was an expert in the area of homosexuality, having treated homosexuals for more than twenty years — described the political atmosphere leading up to the 1973 vote. He writes that during this time, “militant homosexual groups continued to attack any psychiatrist or psychoanalyst who dared to present his findings as to the psychopathology [i.e., the study of mental disorders from all aspects] of homosexuality before national or local meetings of psychiatrists or in public forums.”17 Elsewhere Socarides stated that the decision of the APA trustees was “the medical hoax of the century.”18 Was this the end of the debate? Did the vast majority of “competent” psychiatrists agree with the APA’s decision? In 1977 ten thousand members of the APA were polled at random, asking them their opinion on this. In an article entitled “Sick Again?” Time magazine summarized the results of the poll: “Of those answering, 69% said they believed ‘homosexuality is usually a pathological adaptation, as opposed to a normal variation,’ 18% disagreed and 13% were uncertain. Similarly, sizable majorities said that homosexuals are generally less happy than heterosexuals (73%) and less capable of mature, loving relationships (60%). A total of 70% said that homosexuals’ problems have more to do with their own inner conflicts than with stigmatization by society at large.”19 But what about today? Has this issue been resolved in current medical opinion and research? Concerning this, Dr. Stanton L. Jones, professor of psychology at Wheaton College, states that there is a “mixed scorecard” among professionals on this. He writes: “I would not regard homosexuality to be a psychopathology in the same sense as schizophrenia or phobic disorders. But neither can it be viewed as a normal ‘lifestyle variation’ on a par with being introverted versus extroverted.”20 One may debate whether or not homosexuality is a pathological disorder, but it is clear that the APA’s 1973 decision cannot be cited as medical consensus that homosexuality is a “normal” condition."
 

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Oh okay, millions of straight people are choosing to be gay, since it's obviously advantageous

Got it, makes sense now. Thanks

You think 20% of gen Z is on the LGBTQ+ train because it is genetic? That’s 1 in 5 people. No one could possibly believe this.

That’s a bit higher than 3-5%
 
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Probably not a single human being in the history of ever choose to be gay ?
Why would someone want to choose that ?
Come on people
You are what you are
"You are what you are"

I'm not even sure what that means. Like I said before, there are countless examples of people who change preferences in their lives, both ways.
I've met a bunch of them.

I cited the example of Anne Heche who said she never had a gay thought in her life until she met Ellen. She was with Ellen for four years, and
then she went back to heterosexuality.

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Whats the disagreement again?

That is great. If one is turned gay/straight whatever they will turn back to whatever makes them happy.

I just hope Mike is still happy after sucking a dick after he saw a rainbow after a beautiful rain.
 

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Whats the disagreement again?

That is great. If one is turned gay/straight whatever they will turn back to whatever makes them happy.
Fair enough, but that’s social construct obviously. Nurture more than nature. It isn’t people not having any choice or agency in their lifestyle choices.
 

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Fair enough, but that’s social construct obviously. Nurture more than nature. It isn’t people not having any choice or agency in their lifestyle choices.
Do you think you would suck a dick in prison?

Phil never did. He jerked off into a tissue.
 

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You think 20% of gen Z is on the LGBTQ+ train because it is genetic? That’s 1 in 5 people. No one could possibly believe this.

That’s a bit higher than 3-5%
Where are you getting 20% from? Doubt that is accurate

Higher than 3-5%? Probably

It's been estimated for decades about 10% of population is gay , no clue about LGBTQ+ as a whole.
 

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Where are you getting 20% from? Doubt that is accurate

Higher than 3-5%? Probably

It's been estimated for decades about 10% of population is gay , no clue about LGBTQ+ as a whole.
I wonder if Bruce Jenner would have identified as Trans in 1983. Haha
 
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As a parent of a young child it’s just really confusing for them.

Trans, non binary all of it. Even shows like Jeopardy you just can’t get away from it.
 

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As a parent of a young child it’s just really confusing for them.

Trans, non binary all of it. Even shows like Jeopardy you just can’t get away from it.
Your young child watches Jeopardy?

Mine watches something called paw patrol. I am starting to worry about his intelligent handicapping.
 

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