let's discuss nfl season win totals 2017

[WinnersareGrinners]

Cash, I agree with your thinking about the cowboys taking a stepback this year, I won’t be shocked if they ended up 8-8 or 9-7…I was close tomaking the Giants a value play to win the SB at 25/1 but their run game or lackthereof worries me, I hate the idea of virtually every game being put in Eli’shands because whilst he can be clutch he can also be bloody awful when asked todo too much and in his SB years they could always run the ball, what’s yourtake on the Giants being able to run the ball this year and keep Eli protected?I think the NYG D could be pretty scary and will keep them in most games

 

[SaintsFan1977]

I'm heavily leaning to taking giants over (8.5 -145)

Since 2010 a team that has a winning record but a negative turnover differential has a 66% chance of failing to reach the previous years record. Since 2007 its 64%

Those teams are the Giants, Lions and Texans.

On the opposite side we have teams that had a losing record but a + turnover differential since 2007 have a 70% chance of getting a better record than the previous year.

Those teams are the Eagles, Bills and Bengals

Just food for thought.

 

[cashducats]

Cash, I agree with your thinking about the cowboys taking a stepback this year, I won’t be shocked if they ended up 8-8 or 9-7…I was close tomaking the Giants a value play to win the SB at 25/1 but their run game or lackthereof worries me, I hate the idea of virtually every game being put in Eli’shands because whilst he can be clutch he can also be bloody awful when asked todo too much and in his SB years they could always run the ball, what’s yourtake on the Giants being able to run the ball this year and keep Eli protected?I think the NYG D could be pretty scary and will keep them in most games

i think the run game will be better and they will keep Eli better protected this yr for a couple of reasons. Rhett Ellison the blocking te they signed. I don't think people realize how bad the blocking from the te position last yr was. This affected the run game and the pass blocking. Paul Perkins will be a 2nd yr rb now. It typically takes some time for rb to learn how to pick up the blitzes. I expect Perkins to make strides in pass protection. He was always so much more explosive than rashad Jennings. Better run game plus better blitz pickup means better giants offense. Also Cruz was not able to get any separation on his routes. Getting Marshall on the other side plus engram and sharp is a good situation for improvement on offense. O line will be mediocre which is an improvement from last yr. make or break yr for ereck flowers so we will see. D should be very good again

 

[cashducats]

Since 2010 a team that has a winning record but a negative turnover differential has a 66% chance of failing to reach the previous years record. Since 2007 its 64%

Those teams are the Giants, Lions and Texans.

On the opposite side we have teams that had a losing record but a + turnover differential since 2007 have a 70% chance of getting a better record than the previous year.

Those teams are the Eagles, Bills and Bengals

Just food for thought.

the bengal over was tempting to me as well. Wouldn't be surprised to see them take the division. Everyone has the Steelers penciled in but Big Ben' health status and bell and Bryant's drug status are always a question mark

 

[Statcentral14]

I'm high on the Titans and Giants.

 

[cashducats]

Peyton "fell off a cliff" to the public because he couldn't throw it deep anymore.....and defenses knew he couldn't throw it deep anymore. But, he missed an entire year due to neck surgery, had a complication and had another procedure. Did he have 2 or 3 in total? He had a marvelous season the first few years there but his upper body was done after those first few years. Brees had shoulder problems years ago after but still has a stronger arm than Peyton did. I just don't see how they are similar as far as longevity. You have to put Brees in the same place as Brady as far as that.

I saw years ago a story about how Bree's and the Saints organization is in touch with this professional posture/ergonomics guy. He just was explaining to the players at that time how to properly stretch and posture and shit like that. You can just tell someone like Bree's loves that and takes the extra time to implement that into his game... you know recently Bree's came out and said he wanted to play until he was 45? They just aren't built the same way. But Bree's will play until he is 43 I think at the least. People thought Brady was crazy when he said it.

i'm sure drew brees and all these qb's in their late 30's are doing everything legal and possibly illegal to be able to play at peak performance, but at some point your body says no. with a physical game like football it can happen suddenly. i mean, it happens in baseball (manny ramirez, arod) so of course it can happen in football. btw, did you ever notice that one vein large vein thats always prominent in drew brees' bicep?

 

[SaintsFan1977]

btw, did you ever notice that one vein large vein thats always prominent in drew brees' bicep?

I never really noticed but are you suggesting he is on the juice? I would be willing to bet at least 75% of these players are taking PEDs. Thats probably a conservative guess too. They are bigger, stronger, faster, and heal quicker than normal people. Its not the gym or genetics doing that.

 

[Baronman]

I'm just hire I bet my49ERS ^^4.5 wins $115-100. We got 6 decent free agents before good draft . Lb from bama& Dl from Stanford. Bowman & Carlos Hyde back from injuries last year.Better coach.Qb Hoyer?. Cancer Kapernick goneeee.

 

[cashducats]

I never really noticed but are you suggesting he is on the juice? I would be willing to bet at least 75% of these players are taking PEDs. Thats probably a conservative guess too. They are bigger, stronger, faster, and heal quicker than normal people. Its not the gym or genetics doing that.

Yeah I'm suggesting he's on some type of Ped but you're right, i think percentage of ped users is very high and in players over 30 I bet it's closer to 95 than 75 lol
look at his arm next time he's interviewed

 

[cashducats]

I'm just hire I bet my49ERS ^^4.5 wins $115-100. We got 6 decent free agents before good draft . Lb from bama& Dl from Stanford. Bowman & Carlos Hyde back from injuries last year.Better coach.Qb Hoyer?. Cancer Kapernick goneeee.

Baronman, where do u see the potential wins? they can get 2 vs the Rams, bears, and then maybe at Washington and jags at home.... maybe at Houston but doubt that and maybe at Indy or philly. Im not willing to take them. Hoyer prob won't make it through season without getting injured

 

[WinnersareGrinners]

i know its dangerous given NE is in their division but i am starting to warm to the idea that Miami will be a good team this year and surpass the 7.5 win line, i think they have put enough offensive weapons out there for them to become a high scoring team and even though i'm not high on the QB he's comptent enough to run a well balanced offense, anyone got them being a playoff team? I could see 10 wins

 

[cashducats]

i know its dangerous given NE is in their division but i am starting to warm to the idea that Miami will be a good team this year and surpass the 7.5 win line, i think they have put enough offensive weapons out there for them to become a high scoring team and even though i'm not high on the QB he's comptent enough to run a well balanced offense, anyone got them being a playoff team? I could see 10 wins

i think the same thing but the 7.5 win season win total is scaring me off. Seems too easy. Why didn't they set the line at 8? They are begging for over money

 

[skins85]

Miamis schedule looks really tough to me. Jets and bills only ones I think have zero playoff chances