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I agree that this could be a rebuilding year but keep in mind that the defense will once again be sick! If guys like Bryce Brown and others shine as youngsters they could be pretty dangerous. But at the end of the day with a gun to my head I have Tenn going to no better than the Peach bowl in Atl. Going to Peach bowl would be quite an accomplishment for this year.

Papa Kiffin scares the crud out of me with what he will be able to do with that secondary. They have a top 3 defense in the conference and have been very good on that side of the ball for years. That is their mantra no doubt.
 

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I agree that this could be a rebuilding year but keep in mind that the defense will once again be sick! If guys like Bryce Brown and others shine as youngsters they could be pretty dangerous. But at the end of the day with a gun to my head I have Tenn going to no better than the Peach bowl in Atl. Going to Peach bowl would be quite an accomplishment for this year.

Papa Kiffin scares the crud out of me with what he will be able to do with that secondary. They have a top 3 defense in the conference and have been very good on that side of the ball for years. That is their mantra no doubt.

UCLA will be playing UT and will bring a new QB and a very questionable OL into their game @ Tenn. Think back to when Nate Longshore and Cal took on UT a couple years ago at Neyland. A deer in the headlights is how we put it. This one might be deja vu all over again. But maybe not.

UCLA's defense is nothing to sneeze at either. Come to think of it, neither of these 2 teams offenses have been too successful vs the other's defense. UT benefited from numerous opportunities created by turnovers the last time they played. UCLA's QB almost gifted Tennessee the game. I don't think Kevin Prince, UCLA's new QB will throw 4 picks in the first half like Kevin Craft did last year.

All this new and questionable offense on the field and all this good defense could mean a nice long boring game of field position -- and not much scoring, but UT should be plenty riled up to get even with the Bruins and Kiffin has some experience with that. That's the only wildcard however when the adrenalin runs out defense takes over. This one won't be a barn burner by a long shot. Maybe one of those "UNDER" opportunities, but I have no clue what kind of game total to expect.
 

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UCLA will be playing UT and will bring a new QB and a very questionable OL into their game @ Tenn. Think back to when Nate Longshore and Cal took on UT a couple years ago at Neyland. A deer in the headlights is how we put it. This one might be deja vu all over again. But maybe not.

UCLA's defense is nothing to sneeze at either. Come to think of it, neither of these 2 teams offenses have been too successful vs the other's defense. UT benefited from numerous opportunities created by turnovers the last time they played. UCLA's QB almost gifted Tennessee the game. I don't think Kevin Prince, UCLA's new QB will throw 4 picks in the first half like Kevin Craft did last year.

All this new and questionable offense on the field and all this good defense could mean a nice long boring game of field position -- and not much scoring, but UT should be plenty riled up to get even with the Bruins and Kiffin has some experience with that. That's the only wildcard however when the adrenalin runs out defense takes over. This one won't be a barn burner by a long shot. Maybe one of those "UNDER" opportunities, but I have no clue what kind of game total to expect.

I know more about the Pac-10 than you think, I just like to talk smack. ANYTHING other than Craft is step in the right direction. I wanted to choke slam him after the Ariz State game where he single handidly did me in. UCLA was the total right side there.


I agree here with your assesment, although I think Tenn's defense is a cut above. Offenses are probably pretty close but homefield at Big Neyland and new QB starting in Neyland, I simply see no way UCLA wins this game. I do not see Tenn blowing anybody out though so you never know. In all honesty, the only play here would be the under if the number is right like you said.

I think we'll know exactly what Tenn's offense will look like moving forward after facing this D.

If Tenn loses this game, you can expect closer to 75k for the remaining games much like last year after the UF game. I have never seen Neyland SO empty watching some of the games on CBS like I did last year.
 

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If I had to guess... the total would be around 42? 42 and above and the under is worth a shot imo.
 

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If Tenn loses this game, you can expect closer to 75k for the remaining games much like last year after the UF game. I have never seen Neyland SO empty watching some of the games on CBS like I did last year.


sigh, more misinformation

not that it matters but TN was 4th in the nation in attendance last year and never had under 98k for any game


dont know which games you watched on CBS - but i know TN had only 1 home game (alabama) on CBS after the Florida game (where Florida had all of 243 yrds offense btw)...the CBS cameras showed fans leaving (self included) in the 4th quarter of the bama game - im sure this stuck in your mind

but the truth is :
2008 total attendance top 5:
mich,PSU,Ohio St ,TN,texas
 

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sigh, more misinformation

not that it matters but TN was 4th in the nation in attendance last year and never had under 98k for any game


dont know which games you watched on CBS - but i know TN had only 1 home game (alabama) on CBS after the Florida game (where Florida had all of 243 yrds offense btw)...the CBS cameras showed fans leaving (self included) in the 4th quarter of the bama game - im sure this stuck in your mind

but the truth is :
2008 total attendance top 5:
mich,PSU,Ohio St ,TN,texas


Those are ticket sales Chris. Actual bodies in the stadium was NOWHERE near 98 k.

Also, UF had TONS of hidden yardage in that game(turnovers, big kick returns and sick punt return by Brandon James for a TD, short fields all day everyday) That game was total domination coupled with Tenn meltdown.

You even said yourself it was embarrassing going to games with soooo many empty seats. Stop retracting your statements.
 

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I encourage everyone to google Tenn's lack of attendance last year. There are tons of articles all over google with pictures to boot. This will refute anything Chris says moving forward.

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I encourage everyone to google Tenn's lack of attendance last year. There are tons of articles all over google with pictures to boot. This will refute anything Chris says moving forward.

:howdy:


i state facts, you say google

*yawn* same story different day

florida was clearly the better team - but the gator offense did very little (still more than the UT offense). thats all i was sayin, you cant disprove that with infinite googling!

i never said seats were empty - what i did say is that i was embarassed by the # of alabama fans in neyland.

sure you can find a picture of empty seats in the 4th quarter of a lopsided loss to a rival thats ranked #1. but your original statement was way off

how did you get to "some of the CBS games" when they had 1 game on CBS? singular. one.

anyway - you assesment was pretty good until the attendance nonsense:)

im off, headin to pub to watch the celtics...take them + pts tonight and thank me tomorrow
 

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Be it CBS or whatever the network. I saw Tenn play Miss state in Neyland on TV(what network was that?). I also have the gameplan so forgive me if not CBS but I saw at least 4 Vol home games including the UF game which I was in attendance. Plain and simple, attendence was down BIG. You were only 4th in attendence bc of the size of your stadium, but you never came close to filling it once this past year including the Florida game where the student section wasn't even full.

Again 98K is tickets sold. I can assure you there was not 98K in attendence for any game this past year. Fans ALL OVER the SEC claim they have never seen the stadium so empty. 75k was a raw number I threw out there and didn't mean it literally but I bet as far as bodies go there were closer to 75k than 98k.


But who really cares? We're splitting hairs here.
 

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This is typical for Chris. Days go by with legitimate questions re. Tennesse's personnel and because the answers are less than favorable they go unanswered.

!!!But By God, lets get the record straight on attendance numbers!!!
 

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Interesting placement for the Vols. 10th??? Looks like this blogger from ESPN also looks at this year as a rebuild as well.

Chris if you could just remove your blinders your opinions would get more respect and you could be more of an asset to the forum. Otherwise you staunch homerism will just continue to get ridiculed.





SEC post-spring power rankings
May 15, 2009 9:00 AM
Posted by ESPN.com's Chris Low
Now that we have a little better idea of everybody's strengths and weaknesses, let's take a look at our post-spring power rankings in the SEC.
Truthfully, there's not a lot of movement from the pre-spring power rankings. Two notable changes are Ole Miss moving past Alabama into the second spot and Tennessee falling a couple of spots to 10th.
The Western Division race figures to be the most compelling of the two next fall. Alabama, LSU and Ole Miss should all three have terrific football teams, and Arkansas is good enough to make some noise.
<table width="200" align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="4"> <tbody><tr> <td> </td> <td>
ncf_i_tebow_200.jpg
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td align="left">Rhona Wise/Icon SMI</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td align="left">Tim Tebow and the Gators have their sights set on a repeat.</td> </tr> </tbody></table> 1. Florida: The Gators look even more imposing after the spring. Backup quarterback John Brantley threw the football like a champ and would be a starter at a lot of schools. The defense is even deeper than it was at the end of last season with safety Dorian Munroe and tackle Omar Hunter both back and healthy, and all the key pieces are back in the kicking game.
2. Ole Miss: The Rebels move up to No. 2 because Jevan Snead demonstrated in the spring what a lot of people around Oxford already knew. He's the kind of quarterback you build championship teams around and is primed for a huge year. Defensive tackle Jerrell Powe looks like he's going to be a force after shedding some pounds and becoming a disrupter in the middle.
3. Alabama: Nick Saban feels a lot better about his team after seeing junior Greg McElroy run away with the quarterback job and play with the savvy and poise of a guy who'd been starting for a couple of years. The Crimson Tide will be even better on defense than they were a year ago, but there are still some pretty major holes to fill on the offensive line.
4. LSU: The defense was dominant for the Tigers in the spring, a good sign that they've got their edge back defensively under first-year defensive coordinator John Chavis. Sophomore Jordan Jefferson all but nailed down the starting quarterback job, and true freshman Russell Shepard showed that he needs to be on the field somewhere.
5. Georgia: The Bulldogs had so many guys hurt in the spring that it's impossible to get a read on where they really are at this point. The running game needs some work, and A.J. Green needs some help at receiver. Help is on the way in the form of talented freshman Marlon Brown. It doesn't help any that defensive end Justin Houston is suspended for the first two games of the season. He was Georgia's best pass-rusher in the spring.
6. Arkansas: There are still too many unknowns on defense to slide the Hogs past the Bulldogs into the No. 5 spot. Conveniently, those two teams meet on the third weekend of the season in Fayetteville. Arkansas put up some dizzying offensive numbers in scrimmages. Receivers Joe Adams and Jarius Wright are outstanding after the catch, and quarterback Ryan Mallett is a great fit for Bobby Petrino's offense. Now, if only the Hogs can improve on 'D.'
7. South Carolina: Stephen Garcia looked like he was finally starting to get it this spring -- as a quarterback and as a leader. He better get it, because the Gamecocks don't have anybody behind him. Some of the best news for South Carolina was how well the freshmen played. Cornerback Stephon Gilmore is a future star. But the Gamecocks are dangerously thin in the secondary, especially if C.C. Whitlock doesn't make it academically.
8. Kentucky: The Wildcats lost some good defensive players from last year's team, but the guys who jumped into those spots this spring didn't miss a beat. This is the most talent and most depth the Wildcats have had on defense under Rich Brooks. Cornerback Trevard Lindley, linebacker Micah Johnson and end Jeremy Jarmon are all SEC-caliber players. If Mike Hartline comes around at quarterback, eight wins isn't out of the question.
9. Auburn: The Tigers exited the spring without an answer at quarterback. That's because nobody won the position, and coach Gene Chizik is now saying that freshmen Tyrik Rollison and Clint Moseley will be given a shot once they arrive. The defense will be good enough to keep Auburn in most games. But running the spread offense without a quarterback is not a pretty sight. See last season on the Plains.
10. Tennessee: Similar to Auburn, Tennessee doesn't have a lot of answers right now at quarterback. It sounds like Jonathan Crompton will get first shot, but nobody really separated himself this spring. Take B.J. Coleman's name out of the equation. He packed up and left earlier this month. The Vols are also one injury away from really being in trouble at offensive tackle. Touted signee Bryce Brown offers hope at tailback.
11. Vanderbilt: It's hard to say with conviction that Vanderbilt's passing game will be appreciably better in 2009 than it was a year ago, and the Commodores were pretty woeful throwing the football last season. Losing receiver Justin Wheeler to a serious knee injury in the spring was a big blow, making it more critical than ever that Terence Jeffers is eligible in the fall.
12. Mississippi State: Once all the freshmen arrive this summer, the Bulldogs will look a lot different than they did in the spring. Chad Bumphis has a chance to help right away at receiver, and Tyler Russell will take his shot at the quarterback job. The Bulldogs may have to tweak things offensively until they find something that works. Junior college newcomer Pernell McPhee is a man at defensive tackle. That much was established this spring in Starkville.
 

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what does anything in this have to do with "blinders" or "homerism". ive forgot more about football than you will ever know.

the reason you constantly harass me is because of Bryce Brown spitting in Oregons face...thats homerism, you hate anything Vol related because Bryce Brown chose the Vols over the Ducks. I told you ahead of time hed not pick the ducks and i was correct. you meanwhile had dreams of him dreaming of oregon,who is the homer?


Interesting placement for the Vols. 10th??? Looks like this blogger from ESPN also looks at this year as a rebuild as well.

Chris if you could just remove your blinders your opinions would get more respect and you could be more of an asset to the forum. Otherwise you staunch homerism will just continue to get ridiculed.





SEC post-spring power rankings
May 15, 2009 9:00 AM
Posted by ESPN.com's Chris Low
Now that we have a little better idea of everybody's strengths and weaknesses, let's take a look at our post-spring power rankings in the SEC.
Truthfully, there's not a lot of movement from the pre-spring power rankings. Two notable changes are Ole Miss moving past Alabama into the second spot and Tennessee falling a couple of spots to 10th.
The Western Division race figures to be the most compelling of the two next fall. Alabama, LSU and Ole Miss should all three have terrific football teams, and Arkansas is good enough to make some noise.
<TABLE cellSpacing=4 cellPadding=0 width=200 align=right border=0> <TBODY><TR> <TD></TD> <TD>
ncf_i_tebow_200.jpg
</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD></TD> <TD align=left>Rhona Wise/Icon SMI</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD></TD> <TD align=left>Tim Tebow and the Gators have their sights set on a repeat.</TD> </TR></TBODY></TABLE>1. Florida: The Gators look even more imposing after the spring. Backup quarterback John Brantley threw the football like a champ and would be a starter at a lot of schools. The defense is even deeper than it was at the end of last season with safety Dorian Munroe and tackle Omar Hunter both back and healthy, and all the key pieces are back in the kicking game.
2. Ole Miss: The Rebels move up to No. 2 because Jevan Snead demonstrated in the spring what a lot of people around Oxford already knew. He's the kind of quarterback you build championship teams around and is primed for a huge year. Defensive tackle Jerrell Powe looks like he's going to be a force after shedding some pounds and becoming a disrupter in the middle.
3. Alabama: Nick Saban feels a lot better about his team after seeing junior Greg McElroy run away with the quarterback job and play with the savvy and poise of a guy who'd been starting for a couple of years. The Crimson Tide will be even better on defense than they were a year ago, but there are still some pretty major holes to fill on the offensive line.
4. LSU: The defense was dominant for the Tigers in the spring, a good sign that they've got their edge back defensively under first-year defensive coordinator John Chavis. Sophomore Jordan Jefferson all but nailed down the starting quarterback job, and true freshman Russell Shepard showed that he needs to be on the field somewhere.
5. Georgia: The Bulldogs had so many guys hurt in the spring that it's impossible to get a read on where they really are at this point. The running game needs some work, and A.J. Green needs some help at receiver. Help is on the way in the form of talented freshman Marlon Brown. It doesn't help any that defensive end Justin Houston is suspended for the first two games of the season. He was Georgia's best pass-rusher in the spring.
6. Arkansas: There are still too many unknowns on defense to slide the Hogs past the Bulldogs into the No. 5 spot. Conveniently, those two teams meet on the third weekend of the season in Fayetteville. Arkansas put up some dizzying offensive numbers in scrimmages. Receivers Joe Adams and Jarius Wright are outstanding after the catch, and quarterback Ryan Mallett is a great fit for Bobby Petrino's offense. Now, if only the Hogs can improve on 'D.'
7. South Carolina: Stephen Garcia looked like he was finally starting to get it this spring -- as a quarterback and as a leader. He better get it, because the Gamecocks don't have anybody behind him. Some of the best news for South Carolina was how well the freshmen played. Cornerback Stephon Gilmore is a future star. But the Gamecocks are dangerously thin in the secondary, especially if C.C. Whitlock doesn't make it academically.
8. Kentucky: The Wildcats lost some good defensive players from last year's team, but the guys who jumped into those spots this spring didn't miss a beat. This is the most talent and most depth the Wildcats have had on defense under Rich Brooks. Cornerback Trevard Lindley, linebacker Micah Johnson and end Jeremy Jarmon are all SEC-caliber players. If Mike Hartline comes around at quarterback, eight wins isn't out of the question.
9. Auburn: The Tigers exited the spring without an answer at quarterback. That's because nobody won the position, and coach Gene Chizik is now saying that freshmen Tyrik Rollison and Clint Moseley will be given a shot once they arrive. The defense will be good enough to keep Auburn in most games. But running the spread offense without a quarterback is not a pretty sight. See last season on the Plains.
10. Tennessee: Similar to Auburn, Tennessee doesn't have a lot of answers right now at quarterback. It sounds like Jonathan Crompton will get first shot, but nobody really separated himself this spring. Take B.J. Coleman's name out of the equation. He packed up and left earlier this month. The Vols are also one injury away from really being in trouble at offensive tackle. Touted signee Bryce Brown offers hope at tailback.
11. Vanderbilt: It's hard to say with conviction that Vanderbilt's passing game will be appreciably better in 2009 than it was a year ago, and the Commodores were pretty woeful throwing the football last season. Losing receiver Justin Wheeler to a serious knee injury in the spring was a big blow, making it more critical than ever that Terence Jeffers is eligible in the fall.
12. Mississippi State: Once all the freshmen arrive this summer, the Bulldogs will look a lot different than they did in the spring. Chad Bumphis has a chance to help right away at receiver, and Tyler Russell will take his shot at the quarterback job. The Bulldogs may have to tweak things offensively until they find something that works. Junior college newcomer Pernell McPhee is a man at defensive tackle. That much was established this spring in Starkville.
 

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OK homer. First things first.

How about that 5k bet that Oregon will outrank Tennessee? Still waiting for you to man up with a middle man. Don't throw one out that you know won't be acceptable if you are 1/2 capable of backing your smack talk with money on the line. Even Flsunman laughed at your obvious attempt to back out of it by suggesting him because he knew why you picked him. Because you knew I wouldn't go for him which is why you suggested him. He saw right through your chickenshit ploy to escape the obvious. I'll take whatever your measly ass can afford, $500-$5000. I'll give Ducks a piece of it or I'll take it all. No matter to me. Easy money.

It's time to put up or shut up. We've heard your meaningless rants, now back yourself up or crawl back into the closet where you spent the last year.
 

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why do you answer for the Duck guy?

do you hold his dick when he pisses too?

this little crew of 4-5 guys patting each other on the back has ruined this forum. its obvious theres agendas here that go beyond making money.

you were the one being laughed at, you just didnt know it ..you take things so literal , you need to lighten up and enjoy life.
 

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Oh I do enjoy life.
I also enjoy this...

Oregon>Tennessee

You know it's the truth but you are unable to admit it.

My money is ready but your's is something to laugh at... you are the clown of this board.
 

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I have a hobby and you are a wasted part of it.

Oh and by the way, I don't answer for Ducks, I answer for myself.
Let's see the money. Or are you backing down?
You can't even answer for yourself.
 

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what does anything in this have to do with "blinders" or "homerism". ive forgot more about football than you will ever know.

the reason you constantly harass me is because of Bryce Brown spitting in Oregons face...thats homerism, you hate anything Vol related because Bryce Brown chose the Vols over the Ducks. I told you ahead of time hed not pick the ducks and i was correct. you meanwhile had dreams of him dreaming of oregon,who is the homer?




Harrassing you? That is a laugh.We've been going at this for years, well before you or I ever heard of Bryce Brown. It started with your continous denigrating of the P10 then got worse. Don't you remember your ridiculous claim that Jonathan Stewart was going to be a Vol? There is a lot of BS on these boards that I ignore, but unfortunately I have a hard time letting the BS that you continuously spew go unchecked. That is because you are by far and away the biggest idiot with an attitude here.

As for you knowing more than I do about football I await proof of that for you certainly haven't shown it. Not only did I play it, I coach it and my handicapping record for the past 3 years is here for all to see. Where is yours?
Your idiocy is certainly on display for all to see. In your haste to make fun of Florida you quoted an article from a year ago and then acting amazed that ESPN has been ignoring it as if there is some conspiracy. The examples of your ineptitude are plentiful. Shall I go on?

You've been called out on a bet. Why don't you step up? Remember your old line "This is a gambling site!"

HAhahaha
 

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i never said stewart was going to be a vol..thats a lie

i said ,like in his soph year at oregon, that UT recruited him and almost had him...that upset you i remember

i do think its cute that you and conan are so close you jump in to argue for each other ...whos the pitcher and whos the catcher in your relationship?

anyoen that disagrees with you 2 or the 2 sooner guys you try to run em out of the forum

you all jumped russ at first ,till he kissed the proper ass - now hes in the club i guess
 

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