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The sports book keep making Jeb the big favorite but he keeps falling in the polls.

What am I missing?
 

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The sports book keep making Jeb the big favorite but he keeps falling in the polls.

What am I missing?

1. A lot of those places have small limits so a true free market price is harder to attain.

2. Bush superPACs have tons of money. He has over 2x more money than anyone else. Staying in the race is expensive. He can wait this out and stay in the race for the long haul as the rest of the field starts to wither down.

If Trump, Carson, Rubio, etc do falter than good ol Jeb will be right there to pickup the support.

His support seems like it is going nowhere but the more candidates that dropout, the more it could be consolidated towards him.

I don't think he should be favored but that is probably the best answer.
 

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JFK is actually a very bad example. Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis. Under JFK, Eastern Europe was overrun by communism and the Berlin Wall was erected without any resistance. And who could forget Vietnam which pretty much changed America forever...

"We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

An inspirational speaker? Patriotic? Well intentioned? Sure.

Respected by our enemies? Hardly. The Kremlin took full advantage during the Age of Camelot.

It was a different world back then but imagine events of that magnitude under a President Rubio - disaster!

When I mentioned wise elder statesmen, I was thinking more along the lines of Churchill, Washington, Eisenhower, Reagan...and Thatcher in 1979 at 54 years of age.
 

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"While Jeb Bush grabbed media headlines with the announcement that his affiliated Super PAC had raised more than $100 million in the second quarter, contributions to his individual campaign were a more modest $11 million. That number put him just ahead of Ben Carson, but behind Hillary Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)"

:):)

How long before the GOPe drags Mitt Romney back in?
 

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How can the GOP put Marco out there as the candidate, when everything about him is exactly what they've complained about with Obama for 8 years? No experience, too young, career Politician, lied about his backstory, alluring speaker without substance. Could he win a general? If everything broke right. But they have better options with less weaknesses.

"Hey, Missy, you say you are pregnant because you were raped or because Daddy took some liberties? Too bad for you, make lemonade outta lemon!"

Yeah, that'll go over REAL big with most of the electorate. And then there's this:

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/09/republicans-marco-rubios-financial-scandal-big-problem.html

Even Republicans Think That Marco Rubio’s Financial Scandal Is A Big Problem

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Several Republican strategists are saying that the scandal involving Marco Rubio’s debt and personal finances is legitimate and could be a big problem for his 2016 presidential campaign.
Politico spoke to several Republican strategists who discussed a New York Times story about Marco Rubio’s struggles surrounding excessive spending and debt:
“The parking ticket hit was bullshit, but this is real,” one Republican strategist said. “They were trying to lump them together when they are two different things, so that’s the Times fault. But Marco shouldn’t be able to get away from one legit story about how he can’t manage his own finances because the other story was bullshit.”
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“Marco made 800,000 on his book, plus his Senate salary,” one Republican strategist said. “Then the Rubio people are like: The Times are just attacking a normal guy with normal problems!”
“It’s fine, I get the playbook, but they shouldn’t be allowed to just spin that,” the strategist said. “I don’t think there’s anyone in Iowa who has student loan debts and an 80,000 boat and a 50,000 car.”
The stories about Rubio’s excessive spending and financial issues are nothing new. In 2012, Reuters reported, “Before joining the Senate last year, his name surfaced in an Internal Revenue Service investigation of the Florida Republican Party’s use of party-issued credit cards. He frequently had used his party credit card for personal use, and later reimbursed the card company for about $16,000. Rubio’s handling of his personal finances contrasts sharply with the image of him on his Senate website, which highlights Rubio’s efforts to prevent Washington from piling up debt.”
At best, Marco Rubio is a hypocrite. At worst, he is a reckless spender with a history of shady deals who can’t be trusted manage his own checkbook, much less run the country. The New York Times piece contains too much detail to be easily dismissed and has opened the door for more journalists to dig into Rubio’s financial history.
Republicans may be hoping that they can bury the Times piece as a partisan hit job, but Rubio wasn’t living the life of an average American, and his reckless spending skeletons may doom his presidential campaign.
 

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PatsFan,

JFK is actually a very bad example. Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis. Under JFK, Eastern Europe was overrun by communism and the Berlin Wall was erected without any resistance. And who could forget Vietnam which pretty much changed America forever...

"We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

An inspirational speaker? Patriotic? Well intentioned? Sure.

Respected by our enemies? Hardly. The Kremlin took full advantage during the Age of Camelot.

It was a different world back then but imagine events of that magnitude under a President Rubio - disaster!

When I mentioned wise elder statesmen, I was thinking more along the lines of Churchill, Washington, Eisenhower, Reagan...and Thatcher in 1979 at 54 years of age.

Don't want to get into a historical account of JFK's presidency but fair rebuttal.

Either way age isn't an issue for me and I'm not sure why it is for you. Ted Cruz is 45, Rand Paul is 45. Those are probably the only 3 candidates I'd want to win. Cruz a little reluctantly but the other two absolutely.

What happened to all the hoopla about the tea party movement and NEW BLOOD? I'm sick of some old 65 year old with the silver spoon who doesn't understand the modern challenges of education, healthcare, our economy, globalization, free market solutions (if they understood that why haven't they advocated them before) been in the gov't the whole time they've grown massive debts, etc


I see your point on FP. Looking for a Gary Cooper. The strong, silent type. That is a fair point. I think that is where experience matters more than on fiscal issues.
 

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"Hey, Missy, you say you are pregnant because you were raped or because Daddy took some liberties? Too bad for you, make lemonade outta lemon!"

Yeah, that'll go over REAL big with most of the electorate. And then there's this:

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/09/republicans-marco-rubios-financial-scandal-big-problem.html

Even Republicans Think That Marco Rubio’s Financial Scandal Is A Big Problem

By: Jason Easley more from Jason Easley
Share on Tumblr

rubio-sad-fox-news-sunday.jpg

Several Republican strategists are saying that the scandal involving Marco Rubio’s debt and personal finances is legitimate and could be a big problem for his 2016 presidential campaign.
Politico spoke to several Republican strategists who discussed a New York Times story about Marco Rubio’s struggles surrounding excessive spending and debt:
“The parking ticket hit was bullshit, but this is real,” one Republican strategist said. “They were trying to lump them together when they are two different things, so that’s the Times fault. But Marco shouldn’t be able to get away from one legit story about how he can’t manage his own finances because the other story was bullshit.”
…..
“Marco made 800,000 on his book, plus his Senate salary,” one Republican strategist said. “Then the Rubio people are like: The Times are just attacking a normal guy with normal problems!”
“It’s fine, I get the playbook, but they shouldn’t be allowed to just spin that,” the strategist said. “I don’t think there’s anyone in Iowa who has student loan debts and an 80,000 boat and a 50,000 car.”
The stories about Rubio’s excessive spending and financial issues are nothing new. In 2012, Reuters reported, “Before joining the Senate last year, his name surfaced in an Internal Revenue Service investigation of the Florida Republican Party’s use of party-issued credit cards. He frequently had used his party credit card for personal use, and later reimbursed the card company for about $16,000. Rubio’s handling of his personal finances contrasts sharply with the image of him on his Senate website, which highlights Rubio’s efforts to prevent Washington from piling up debt.”
At best, Marco Rubio is a hypocrite. At worst, he is a reckless spender with a history of shady deals who can’t be trusted manage his own checkbook, much less run the country. The New York Times piece contains too much detail to be easily dismissed and has opened the door for more journalists to dig into Rubio’s financial history.
Republicans may be hoping that they can bury the Times piece as a partisan hit job, but Rubio wasn’t living the life of an average American, and his reckless spending skeletons may doom his presidential campaign.



damn, this gentleman blends beautifully in Washington........


:)
 

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Bumping this EPIC prediction!
 

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When I see thread titles like this one, I'm never sure if it's from 3 years ago, or days before the election, or some poll he's citing today. The polls never change, his citations never change and the results never change either.

Really no need for him to start new threads, he should just bump his own threads, they all tell the same story.



Anyhow, back when this thread was started, I didn't know what to think about Trump and I didn't think he would win the nomination. Today I think the son of a bitch is the best President of my lifetime. He's delivering what he promised on everything, or fighting to do just that. He's breaking molds, going against the norm, doesn't give a fuck about political correctness, exposing the swamp, showing the world what a bunch of lying hypocrites career politicians and the liberal media are, and most importantly, he's WINNING ACROSS THE BOARDS
 

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Lmfao

hmmm, did you actually post the story, or did somebody else do that, too, or, are you retarded? You obviously felt it was true, unless somebody twisted your arm and made you copy it.
 

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Lol, only another retard would wake up and spend his morning bumping threads started by another retard. It’s fucking amazing how much this guy is in your heads. The comedy continues lol.
As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with you.
 

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