Kyrie Irving to Lakers?

[crudebar]

With that said---no brainer for Lakers if they can get him for Horton and some bullshit draft picks and dump Westbrook. Reality check is that ain't happening.

That team will go into next season pretty much the same as last season. They are banking on new coaching changing everything. LOL. The same coach that won them a championship was the reason they couldn't even be a 10 seed in the west. Good luck with that reasoning.

AD is probably always going to be hurt and his career will end prematurely due to injury and Westbrook is a throw back to dinosaur basketball.

 

[Vikingsfan]

Kyrie is a great teammate. That doesn't really care all that much about basketball. But great teammate if you want to discuss worldly events like earth being flat and the meaning of a replica floor----of which Kyrie still thinks is dangerous and a floor from the 60s.

A real rhodes scholar and great teammate---when not pertaining to basketball activities.

edit: the guy is also about to hit 30(if he isn't there already) i don't see him taking care of himself enough to not fall of a cliff soon as a basketball player. Another thing to think about if a team is actually entertaining bringing him aboard.

100%

 

[Willie99]

He wanted out of Cleveland because he wanted to be center piece of team/wanted out of shadow of LeBron. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad teammate

That's the epitome of being a bad teammate

Define good teammate, I gotta hear this

 

[Avocado33]

That's the epitome of being a bad teammate

Define good teammate, I gotta hear this

How is that being a bad teammate? Because the guy wanted to prove he could have success as the true leader of a team? You praise Durant any chance you get, yet the reason he left Golden State is essentially the same. You can’t really fault either of them in my view because they left an easier path to competing for championships to embrace a new challenge and try to prove something.

Kyrie helped elevate Cleveland into a championship level team, made others around him better during his entire tenure there (with and without LeBron), was respected and liked by his peers. They don’t win jack shit without Kyrie. Even with the 2018 run no question the Cavs were substantially better with Kyrie and they missed him greatly in Lebron’s final Cavs season. Definition of a great teammate in my book.

 

[Avocado33]

The notion that he can’t help a team win/the chemistry with LeBron would be shitty is laughable

Guy averaged 27.4/6 on extremely efficient shooting splits, had essentially the same efficiency numbers as Tatum this season by any reasonable metric.

For the chemistry with LeBron shit, his playoff record with LeBron is 41-13, which included having to play the 2017 Warriors (one of the greatest teams of all time) and a 73-win Warriors team the year prior. That’s absurdly great.

He made the Finals all 3 years he played with LeBron and won a championship. For more perspective, 1 title in 3 appearances is exactly what the Boston Celtics as a franchise have achieved over the last 35 years.

Now I’m not saying they would achieve that same level of success at this point — they’re older, conference is better, etc: but the notion that Kyrie has been a cancer his entire career/has never been a great teammate is just flat out wrong. Guy has more TEAM success than a lot of other great players would kill for. A lot of others aren’t able to have that success despite playing with generational talent

The notion that the Lakers wouldn’t snag Kyrie in a heartbeat and that they wouldn’t be a better team with him is pretty laughable.

 

[Willie99]

How is that being a bad teammate? Because the guy wanted to prove he could have success as the true leader of a team? You praise Durant any chance you get, yet the reason he left Golden State is essentially the same. You can’t really fault either of them in my view because they left an easier path to competing for championships to embrace a new challenge and try to prove something.

Kyrie helped elevate Cleveland into a championship level team, made others around him better during his entire tenure there (with and without LeBron), was respected and liked by his peers. They don’t win jack shit without Kyrie. Even with the 2018 run no question the Cavs were substantially better with Kyrie and they missed him greatly in Lebron’s final Cavs season. Definition of a great teammate in my book.

Man, you just make shit up. I mocked KD when he signed with GS for chasing an easy ring. Players used to want to defeat their rivals, KD signed with them. I called my man Ray Ray "Judas Shuttlesworth" for doing the same thing. Nobody anywhere ever complained about KD as a teammate or in the locker room. Comparing KD to Flat Earth is about redicoulsy silly as it gets.

Kyrie wanted out of Cleveland because he was selfish, not selfless.

Kyrie destroyed the C's chemistry because he was selfish, not selfless.

Kyrie is having issues in Brooklyn and ruined their last season because Flat Earth was selfish, not selfless

Kyrie is by definition a horrible teammate, his history proves just that.

 

[Avocado33]

Man, you just make shit up. I mocked KD when he signed with GS for chasing an easy ring. Players used to want to defeat their rivals, KD signed with them. I called my man Ray Ray "Judas Shuttlesworth" for doing the same thing. Nobody anywhere ever complained about KD as a teammate or in the locker room. Comparing KD to Flat Earth is about redicoulsy silly as it gets.

Kyrie wanted out of Cleveland because he was selfish, not selfless.

Kyrie destroyed the C's chemistry because he was selfish, not selfless.

Kyrie is having issues in Brooklyn and ruined their last season because Flat Earth was selfish, not selfless

Kyrie is by definition a horrible teammate, his history proves just that.

Nobody complained about KD? Are you serious? Draymond flat out said to him live during a game “We don’t fucking need you.” Their whole 2018-19 season was tense because of KD. Kerr/KD spatted all the time and basically public knowledge they didn’t like each other. Curry, Klay, even Iggy have all acknowledged this . Nothing like that ever happened to Kyrie in Cleveland.

Fans in this area are embracing Andrew Wiggins now — someone who has spent most of his career labeled as a disappointment and a bust — and would rather have him than Durant. Most of the fans here cherished this one a lot more than the others and don’t want Durant near the team again.
If you did say that about KD joining GS then I apologize. Didn’t join the site by then. But everything I’ve seen from you about since I’ve been here has been rainbows and butterflies — including suggesting that he’s a better all time player than LeBron multiple times. I don’t think KD’s choice to join the Warriors was brought up though.

Also doesn’t change the fact that KD and Kyrie left GS and Cleveland, respectively, for essentially the same reason. Whether or not you like the reason doesn’t matter.

 

[Avocado33]

And that’s not all even to suggest Kevin Durant was a bad teammate. I don’t believe he was. But his presence caused A LOT more problems that final year for the Warriors in terms of team tension/chemistry than Kyrie ever did for the Cavs.

The turmoil/tension for the Warriors that 2018-19 campaign is common knowledge to NBA followers.

There is no evidence that Kyrie was a bad teammate in Cleveland, destroyed that locker room, etc and plenty pointing to the opposite. His tenure in Cleveland was successful all the way around. No real debating that.

 

[Avocado33]

I don’t really understand the bad teammate on the Nets argument either. Really nothing to suggest that besides vax crap and that’s a pretty big reach IMO

I guess if Kyrie refusing to get vaccinated makes him a bad teammate/cancer then there’s no point in arguing this. I guess you’re entitled to that belief

Kyrie is definitely an oddball who has said some dumb shit over the years, but players in the league have tended to like him

 

[Willie99]

His actions, his words and my words are very clear.

I don't understand how anyone doesn't understand them

Mamba out

 

[Avocado33]

Out of curiosity @Willie99

if you place such high value on team chemistry, then why didn't you back the Warriors?

 

[Avocado33]

Not seeing odds at the moment but sounds like Kyrie-to-Lakers price is bound to climb

Question for Brooklyn -- if Kyrie leaves the Nets -- if whether or not they keep Durant or try and get a historic haul for him. Maybe they keep Durant and can get Brogdon/Turner if Lakers send Westbrook over to the Pacers.

 

[Willie99]

After receiving no viable offers for his in demand services, Kyrie put his head between his legs and "decided" to opt in.

Reportedly he could have signed a veteran minimum and played for the Lakers for 6 million dollars, but not even Flat Earth is dumb enough to leave another 30 million dollars on the table

 

[Willie99]

I wonder what free agents GMs Cryrie & KD are looking to sign? Of course, the Nets have no cap space, I'm guessing those GMs didn't think of that when chasing max dollars

 

[crudebar]

After receiving no viable offers for his in demand services, Kyrie put his head between his legs and "decided" to opt in.

Reportedly he could have signed a veteran minimum and played for the Lakers for 6 million dollars, but not even Flat Earth is dumb enough to leave another 30 million dollars on the table

There was one idiot on here who thought he would leave 30 million on table and sign with lakers.

He was getting a little high sniffing those sneakers and jerking off to the thought.

 

[crudebar]

The lakers offering Westbrook for Irving is simply adorable. Like when they offered Westbrook for Ben Simmons. Lol

 

[Avocado33]

I wonder what free agents GMs Cryrie & KD are looking to sign? Of course, the Nets have no cap space, I'm guessing those GMs didn't think of that when chasing max dollars

They need to find a couple defensive minded role players, ideally close to the minimum

With Simmons and Harris back in fold Nets should be competitive . There isn’t a truly great team in the East unless someone upgrades significantly , though conference has solid depth

 

[Knightrofins]

Russ is going to opt in at 47 million (shocker)

Kyree opted in at 36 mil.

Both players are entering the final year of their contracts

I wonder if the teams make a trade and the nets could get rid of another bad contract on the team?

 

[Avocado33]

Russ is going to opt in at 47 million (shocker)

Kyree opted in at 36 mil.

Both players are entering the final year of their contracts

I wonder if the teams make a trade and the nets could get rid of another bad contract on the team?

The Nets weren’t gonna take on Westbrook unless they were set on a rebuild/Durant wanted out.

If the Lakers were to get Kyrie via trade plus get rid of Westbrook it would’ve had to involve third team (Pacers, Hornets) that would have had to absorb Westbrook’s contract and then send some solid role players to Brooklyn

Obviously Kyrie was not going to opt out and sign an MLE at like 6 mil and leave millions on the table.

Only scenario realistically of getting Kyrie would be 3-team deal. Now they’re gonna focus on getting rid of Westbrook. Maybe they get MJ and the Hornets to bite

 

[crudebar]

Lakers would have to be even dumber to turn Westbrook into Rozier and Hayward and owe even more money over even more years for a team that has 0 chance to contend.

They are seemingly going to go down the correct route and not double down on their mistake---bite the bullet waste another year of Lebron and hope to sign some FA after next season. Won't be easy though, players aren't clamoring to go to these big markets anymore---just the sports media who all live there themselves think this is still true...

You aren't going to trade your way out of Westbrook without making things worse.