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Hardaway had 3 good seasons, his first 3.
Wade is on an average team and Kobe was on an average team 3 years ago. Neither did anything. Shaq was on a team where he was pretty much the only "star" (great player) and they went to the finals. The same can not be said of Kobe or Wade.

what im saying is that Kobe and Wade have only won b/c of having a second go to guy in Shaq. James had nobody else to go to 3 years ago and they got to the finals.
 

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But James didn't win it, even Kobe made it to the finals.

When was Shaq on a team where he was the only great player and they went to the finals? I hope you don't mean Orlando because Penny was a great player and I know that for a fact because I watched them play religiously back then as they were my favorite team.
 

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It doesn't matter what basketball player you are and how good you are. There isn't a single player that can win a game by himself, Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, they all need the supporting cast.

This much we can all agree on. That's the point I'm trying to make. Nobody can win it on their own. Shaq had Penny, Kobe, Wade, he wouldn't have accomplished what he did without them. You can't put down Kobe because he hasn;t won a championship without Shaq because Shaq has never single handedly one anything either.
 

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Kobe is the ONLY player on the planet who believes every shot he puts up will go in. More often than not, he's dead on.
 

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Lets not forget when the lakers were up 3-1 vs Phoenix and all he had was Odom who was dealing with the death of his 7 month old son. Not to mention Smush Parker Kwame Brown Ronny Turiaf Devin Green Aaron McKie Jim Jackson Laron Profit Stanislav Medvedenko. What a roster. Most people are kobe Haters anyway. When you are great that is harsh the reality of it all. The love you or hate you. People even hated jordan so go figure. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 
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well if u can elbow people in the throat and face year after year and get away with it...that cant hurt...raja bell bruce bowen shane battier mike bibby ron artest...how many titles without shaq?? how bad was last years choke job??

how many titles does shaq have without kobe and d wade? answer me that.
 
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superstar guard? he played with a superstar guard who has more mvp's than kobe and wade combined and he was in the finals way before he played with kobe or wade. check your history.

yeah with the magic, but even back then he had penny hardaway! and they didnt even win a title
 

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