Alabam beating Georgia proves 1 thing, Alabama is better than Georgia. So there is no need for them to be in because we don’t need they eye test, we have a scoreboard. Could you imagine how angry people would be if Georgia got in and alabam beat them again. People would be pissed. We actually have a great thing where Alabama would have to beat Georgia, Oklahoma and Clemson for a national championship. That would end debate. Georgia looked great, but had their chance and are a 2 loss non conference champ. Not in consideration with that resume.
There is no clear cut criteria, that's the problem with the system. Expanding the playoff to 5 or 6 at least provides some opportunity to establish more concrete criteria, as it allows the possibility of a conference champion being a qualifier. Not saying it SHOULD be that way, but it at least would create a system with more established rules.
Ohio State and Oklahoma were both flawed teams this year; it's hard to decipher who is actually better. Personally, I think Ohio State would be the better challenge to Alabama. They have a more athletic defense that can at least offer SOME sort of resistance to the Alabama offense. They have the better defense than Oklahoma.
Offensively, I don't think Oklahoma has much of an edge. They were better able to run the ball this year, but you also have to figure that Ohio State went up against better defenses for more of the year in the Big Ten than the Big 12. AND, Ohio State statistically is not far off Oklahoma offensively despite that.
At the end of the day, I can't defend their loss to Purdue. And I can't argue that those conference championship games gave the committee any reason to jump Oklahoma. They were ahead of Ohio State to begin the weekend, so no real reason to expect Ohio State to go over them. Based on that, they made the right call.
The problem is giving reason as to why Oklahoma was ahead of them in the first place, in my view. Oklahoma never showed me anything that made me think, "Yeah they are better than Ohio State." But then again, Ohio State did nothing to definitively show that they are better than Oklahoma. I think their one gripe would be the fact that they had an identical record in a better conference (the Big Ten was better than the Big 12 this year, though neither were great). But that's not enough to escape a bad loss.
There just needs to be a better way
I think one thing that could be done is forcing power conference teams to play each other in the non-conference. Maybe like you see in college basketball -- an ACC/Big Ten challenge kind of thing. Maybe every team in each conference has to play two teams from other power conferences.
For example:One weekend, the whole Big Ten plays the whole SEC (with some leftover teams, obviously).
You need to have more data available to make an honest assessment about conference vs. conference. You could put these types of weekends in the middle of the conference season, so that you don't have the excuse of "Well, they played in early September, so it shouldn't matter." Have them play in October; have some SEC teams come up north when the weather is turning.
That way, you might be able to compare a 1-loss Big 12 champion and a 1-loss Big Ten champion with similar resumes and flaws.
Just a thought
For example:One weekend, the whole Big Ten plays the whole SEC (with some leftover teams, obviously).
You need to have more data available to make an honest assessment about conference vs. conference. You could put these types of weekends in the middle of the conference season, so that you don't have the excuse of "Well, they played in early September, so it shouldn't matter." Have them play in October; have some SEC teams come up north when the weather is turning.
That way, you might be able to compare a 1-loss Big 12 champion and a 1-loss Big Ten champion with similar resumes and flaws.
Just a thought
Very hard to decipher who is truly a better team. Both looked very bad at times this year. Ohio State was lower at its lowest point, but higher at its highest point.
Not sure how barely beating Maryland or Nebraska is worse than barely beating Oklahoma State, Army, and Texas Tech. Just my two cents
Picking Georgia over OSU in the final poll is just dumb. So if Oklahoma would have lost, Georgia would have trumped OSU according to the committee? This is just stupid now and can every pundit stop using the “eye test” as a metric to justify their own bias. It means I have no facts to back up why I m saying, I am just smarter than the public so take my word for it.
The committee is also going to ruin non-conf scheduling for the PAC-12, B10 and B12 moving forward. If the SEC and ACC only play 8 conf games then why risk taking a L in a non-conf game? Most SEC teams play one power 5 non-conf game so they play 9 p-5 games a year. Most of the top Pac12, B10 and B12 teams play one non-conf P5 school per year so 10 per year. That is a huge added risk for an additional L and the committee is not recognizing that so why continue to schedule good non-conf games?
For example, I wonder if UM scheduled Connecticut this year instead of ND. If UM is 12-0 and gets blitzed by OSU I would think it would be tough to keep OSU out. Again, like last year, If OSU scheduled Toledo instead of Oklahoma do they take a one loss Bama over one loss Conference Champ OSU? I say no, so why take the risk? The committee keeps rewarding Bama, so play a shitty non-conf schedule like they do and you will have a better chance of making the playoffs.
The committee is also going to ruin non-conf scheduling for the PAC-12, B10 and B12 moving forward. If the SEC and ACC only play 8 conf games then why risk taking a L in a non-conf game? Most SEC teams play one power 5 non-conf game so they play 9 p-5 games a year. Most of the top Pac12, B10 and B12 teams play one non-conf P5 school per year so 10 per year. That is a huge added risk for an additional L and the committee is not recognizing that so why continue to schedule good non-conf games?
For example, I wonder if UM scheduled Connecticut this year instead of ND. If UM is 12-0 and gets blitzed by OSU I would think it would be tough to keep OSU out. Again, like last year, If OSU scheduled Toledo instead of Oklahoma do they take a one loss Bama over one loss Conference Champ OSU? I say no, so why take the risk? The committee keeps rewarding Bama, so play a shitty non-conf schedule like they do and you will have a better chance of making the playoffs.
Please confirm.
They have a computer do the tables. Then when it comes to decide they override the decision of the computer and pick whoever the fuck they want?
Lol.
Of course it is rigged as shit. That's fine. What alarms me is that OSU and their goofy looking coach didn't get in. Not that I'm a fan or care either way, but that coach has always been getting the benefit of rigging from the top. They don't like him anymore? Not enough money from behind the scenes to make it happen for his team? Very unusual in the world of that goofy looking coach.
He would often get the benefit of Coach K, which happens in college basketball.
They have a computer do the tables. Then when it comes to decide they override the decision of the computer and pick whoever the fuck they want?
Lol.
Of course it is rigged as shit. That's fine. What alarms me is that OSU and their goofy looking coach didn't get in. Not that I'm a fan or care either way, but that coach has always been getting the benefit of rigging from the top. They don't like him anymore? Not enough money from behind the scenes to make it happen for his team? Very unusual in the world of that goofy looking coach.
He would often get the benefit of Coach K, which happens in college basketball.
louisville sucked but that wasnt predictable when they scheduled it years ago. Florida state to open the season when they were ranked top 5 and knocked the qb out for the year last year. usc when everyeone thought they were back, west virginia who has been good for a while now. they schedule tough games at the start of the year almost every year. they are in talks for a neutral site game against usc in 2020. maybe this year because Louisville wasnt good, but just about every other year they schedule a tough out of conference game to start the season. next year is a step down when they play duke to start the year.
The problem with a lot of arguments about this is everyone is basing each conference is equal. They are not. Look at rankings and you will see , what 3 SEC teams in top ten? The way to solve all this nonsense is to make it 8 teams and each conference winner gets a bid and then you have 3 at large.... ND , Central Fla. And Georgia. Now is when you seed them and Georgia would be a 3 or 4 seed. Heard today that ND is a dog to OU Michigan and Georgia. Did anyone see these lines on these games for playoff? It's a joke that two teams are double digits favored and these are 4 best? Herbstreit does make a valid point that best teams are not in but until they can fix it it will always be a joke.
I love everyone pulling so hard for Georgia. Georgia basically has the exact same resume as Michigan for fuck sake. Both have 2 losses. UGA lost at a neutral site by 7 to #1 and on the road by 20 to #11. Michigan lost by 7 on the road to #3 and by 23 on the road to #6. Both have about the same quality of good wins. I'm in no way saying Michigan should be in the discussion, they should't. They had their shot against Ohio and blew it. Which is exactly the same with UGA. They had their shot at Bama and blew it. GTFO of here with they should still get in because they kept it fairly close against Bama.
