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Just the facts please----fading redd, davis and benton 2011
- Thread starter GGZOLA
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I hate to say it and still dont believe it myself. What I dont get is posters swearing they are up units fading the likes of these fools in 2011. I have exhausted every available resource, I'll remain quiet until a few months into this year. doing full tracking of not only the mentioned 3, but adams, jordan, and rivers as well.
In all the time tracked, Craig Davis seems to be the only one that is up. He is very bad; you are up fading because he, like other douches, are really awful to start 2012. Hope it stays that way.
As for me I am fading lang and the mighty quinn, and if they contradict I usually take a day off. Got hammered last night with SF though.
I will have monthly updates on all the goons at that site. Even though Pimpy tracking himself too, I'll list the other fake characters as well, as long as they provide their "tale of the tape" or "recap" from day b4.
In all the time tracked, Craig Davis seems to be the only one that is up. He is very bad; you are up fading because he, like other douches, are really awful to start 2012. Hope it stays that way.
As for me I am fading lang and the mighty quinn, and if they contradict I usually take a day off. Got hammered last night with SF though.
I will have monthly updates on all the goons at that site. Even though Pimpy tracking himself too, I'll list the other fake characters as well, as long as they provide their "tale of the tape" or "recap" from day b4.
WELL now that lang and quinn both "tanking" for faders, I want to bring out a few points:
LANG= Proven, solid long term loser. I am not surprised by his latest "run." He was waaay overdue to regress to the mean; even he is not immune to that.
I went back (yes, page for freaking page) at lang's fade thread, and added the following paramters to fading:
1. anything moneyline fav he took (besides mlb) I took pointspread dog, regardless of line.
2. I adjusted all plays at $10/unit, with a CAP of $1500. Know I'm sure some people can afford to fade his 150+ unit bets, but for a $10/unit bettor, 1500 is my limit.
3. Every parlay, teaser, futures bet, hedge series bet, etc. all that bullshit is NOT counted. Example: He took mavs to win title +375. not counted. He took atlanta hawks series play for +300, then magic for -150, etc. all that tossed out. If you wanna track those and count for the record, be my guest.
4. In may, he had a crazy 300 unit play on a -300ML in nba (nuggets/thunder game) In this case, as explained in #2, I would take dog plus points (nuggets +7) for my limit of $1500 (happens that fade won. but he counts as 300-unit "win because of his pussy play.) What he counts as a big win, I am sure no one faded him and took nuggets money line for 300 units. If anything, I am sure faders took the points at whatever they felt appropriate.
5. Some early results were posted as "fake" winners. (just a few games) I threw those out as well. Not confirmed, not counted.
6. baseball hard to exact money lines, did best I can using 10/15 cent lines, estimating lines. Not too difficult to estimate lines, but exact line for fade purposes is impossible. But fairly accurate tallies.
7. I made a monthly tally (dollar figure) at how you would do with all of these paramters, at $10/unit. Here are the results:
JAN=insufficient data
FEB= +390.00 dollars
MAR=-865.00 dollars
APR=+3597.00 DOLLARS
MAY=+2023.00 DOLLARS
JUNE=+900.00 DOLLARS
JULY=-745.00 DOLLARS
AUGUST=+710.00 DOLLARS
SEPT=+630.00 DOLLARS
OCT=+900.00 DOLLARS
NOV=+5345.00 DOLLARS
DEC=+ DIDNT count yet but I am sure its the best month because it was by far langs worst. Will do it time permitting.
***Whats great is lang's "best" month you would only lose less than 1k***
Personal note on Mighty Quinn:
I started to fade him last 2 weeks, started great, but a 5-game win streak has wiped out all I won off his fades. Trusted sources across the way stand by their claims that he is a 43 to 45% long-term capper. I am keeping full sport and record tallies on this guy for the whole year. So far (including another fade loss last night)
Quinn: 11-16 (40.7%) fade: 16-11 (+3.9 units, he flat bets all games)
nba: 0-0 ncaabb: 7-8 nfl: 2-5 NCAAF: 2-3.
Have no statistical data from 2011 or b4 to go by, kind of unchartered territory for fading quinn.
LANG= Proven, solid long term loser. I am not surprised by his latest "run." He was waaay overdue to regress to the mean; even he is not immune to that.
I went back (yes, page for freaking page) at lang's fade thread, and added the following paramters to fading:
1. anything moneyline fav he took (besides mlb) I took pointspread dog, regardless of line.
2. I adjusted all plays at $10/unit, with a CAP of $1500. Know I'm sure some people can afford to fade his 150+ unit bets, but for a $10/unit bettor, 1500 is my limit.
3. Every parlay, teaser, futures bet, hedge series bet, etc. all that bullshit is NOT counted. Example: He took mavs to win title +375. not counted. He took atlanta hawks series play for +300, then magic for -150, etc. all that tossed out. If you wanna track those and count for the record, be my guest.
4. In may, he had a crazy 300 unit play on a -300ML in nba (nuggets/thunder game) In this case, as explained in #2, I would take dog plus points (nuggets +7) for my limit of $1500 (happens that fade won. but he counts as 300-unit "win because of his pussy play.) What he counts as a big win, I am sure no one faded him and took nuggets money line for 300 units. If anything, I am sure faders took the points at whatever they felt appropriate.
5. Some early results were posted as "fake" winners. (just a few games) I threw those out as well. Not confirmed, not counted.
6. baseball hard to exact money lines, did best I can using 10/15 cent lines, estimating lines. Not too difficult to estimate lines, but exact line for fade purposes is impossible. But fairly accurate tallies.
7. I made a monthly tally (dollar figure) at how you would do with all of these paramters, at $10/unit. Here are the results:
JAN=insufficient data
FEB= +390.00 dollars
MAR=-865.00 dollars
APR=+3597.00 DOLLARS
MAY=+2023.00 DOLLARS
JUNE=+900.00 DOLLARS
JULY=-745.00 DOLLARS
AUGUST=+710.00 DOLLARS
SEPT=+630.00 DOLLARS
OCT=+900.00 DOLLARS
NOV=+5345.00 DOLLARS
DEC=+ DIDNT count yet but I am sure its the best month because it was by far langs worst. Will do it time permitting.
***Whats great is lang's "best" month you would only lose less than 1k***
Personal note on Mighty Quinn:
I started to fade him last 2 weeks, started great, but a 5-game win streak has wiped out all I won off his fades. Trusted sources across the way stand by their claims that he is a 43 to 45% long-term capper. I am keeping full sport and record tallies on this guy for the whole year. So far (including another fade loss last night)
Quinn: 11-16 (40.7%) fade: 16-11 (+3.9 units, he flat bets all games)
nba: 0-0 ncaabb: 7-8 nfl: 2-5 NCAAF: 2-3.
Have no statistical data from 2011 or b4 to go by, kind of unchartered territory for fading quinn.
If anything I'd be really worried that Mighty Quinn has a year that he hits 50% or slightly better. He's due and I really think the way he's approached games for a while (he loves to play chalk but usually fading public dogs, especially recently) I wouldn't be shocked to see him get to 50%. Lang, Benton, Chambers, etc. are much better to fade because of chasing and their propensity to choke on their big games.
yeah i dont know what to make of him.
As for the goon-gang, its a toss up. Anyone on there can go on hot and cold streaks.
Still trying to figure out how a guy like Redd, who lost 2000 units, nets around -750 units fading.
I actually went over his daily plays TWICE on that thread make sure I tallied everything up correctly.
As for the goon-gang, its a toss up. Anyone on there can go on hot and cold streaks.
Still trying to figure out how a guy like Redd, who lost 2000 units, nets around -750 units fading.
I actually went over his daily plays TWICE on that thread make sure I tallied everything up correctly.
Doesn't amaze me anymore that 1drmain-fuck continues to bring up my posts WITHOUT doing any real thread digging. Oh yah, benton is up for 1 month. Congrats. As usual, I say one thing, him and butt-buddy pimp say another.
Davis up huge. Benton up huge. Great january. Redd down a bit.
Since you are both wondering where I am, don't worry. I am right here.
Pimp is so good at keeping records, yet he doesnt even do one month fade from year b4 to disprove me
I dont give a fuck either. They can do whatever they want. I simply am showing the past years data, DAY-BY-DAY. Thats all. Not saying they will win, lose fading. No one knows that. All I know is based on the tracking thread, you are not up fading redd. Benton just crossed into positive territory for 12 full month period.
You guys calling me out on the first month. Keep tracking, end of the full year we'll see who's wrong. Hope I am.
Davis up huge. Benton up huge. Great january. Redd down a bit.
Since you are both wondering where I am, don't worry. I am right here.
Pimp is so good at keeping records, yet he doesnt even do one month fade from year b4 to disprove me
I dont give a fuck either. They can do whatever they want. I simply am showing the past years data, DAY-BY-DAY. Thats all. Not saying they will win, lose fading. No one knows that. All I know is based on the tracking thread, you are not up fading redd. Benton just crossed into positive territory for 12 full month period.
You guys calling me out on the first month. Keep tracking, end of the full year we'll see who's wrong. Hope I am.
I tell you what, pimp and main.
I'll make a wager with either one of you on redd.
Since post 1 on tracking thread, until last play he had on january 31, 2012, I say you are not up a single unit fading him.
I'll bet either one of you $250. Any takers? Put your money where your mouths are.
Thats one FULL YEAR data.
My guess is they will continue to ignore this thread even though I know they check daily, and continue their name-calling.
I'll make a wager with either one of you on redd.
Since post 1 on tracking thread, until last play he had on january 31, 2012, I say you are not up a single unit fading him.
I'll bet either one of you $250. Any takers? Put your money where your mouths are.
Thats one FULL YEAR data.
My guess is they will continue to ignore this thread even though I know they check daily, and continue their name-calling.
