Joey Porter on Vick:'All it was was dogs'

[Joe_Hallenbeck]

The excuse that they were "raised on dogfighting in the south" doesn't fly anymore. I heard that Whoopi Goldberg used that excuse in defense of Michael Vick.

Lots of whites with a southern upbringing were raised to be completely racist. Is that an excuse for racist actions in their adult life? No, and for some reason I doubt Whoopi would defend them.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Golberg vs Hasselhoff is the best CAT fight on TV

Seriously ....out of Robfunk on this forum ... is there anyone that would
mount that sober?

 

[barman]

The excuse that they were "raised on dogfighting in the south" doesn't fly anymore. I heard that Whoopi Goldberg used that excuse in defense of Michael Vick.

Lots of whites with a southern upbringing were raised to be completely racist. Is that an excuse for racist actions in their adult life? No, and for some reason I doubt Whoopi would defend them.

JH and I have often had differing perceptions on this or that societal topic.

But here I'm pretty much on board with him. There are many previously traditional aspects of human behavior which have evolved for the common good.

Raising dogs for the sole purpose of inter-breed combat and associated gambling business is certainly a human behavior worthy of upward evolution.

Those who feel they might be unable to live happily without having access to such barbarity can likely find numerous other places outside the USA where they can settle in and participate in this lifestlye without interference or societal condemnation.

 

[Bjizzle06]

All of the Vick haters who claim that Vick committed such an act of barbarism go to KFC and steakhouses -- purchasing meat coming from animals who have been slaughtered in ways far worse than the way Vick killed the dogs. That is hypocritical and inconsistent.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

All of the Vick haters who claim that Vick committed such an act of barbarism go to KFC and steakhouses -- purchasing meat coming from animals who have been slaughtered in ways far worse than the way Vick killed the dogs. That is hypocritical and inconsistent.

If Vick and his boys eat the dead dogs that lose, then you have a point. If not, shut your face.

 

[Bjizzle06]

If not, shut your face.

Shut your face -- ouch...let me see if I can match your intellectual vigor : *Sticks-out-tounge-and-thumb-on-nose*. High School class of 2012 I assume.

If Vick and his boys eat the dead dogs that lose, then you have a point.

A position of "Vick is a scumbag because he had those dogs tortured and killed and didn't consume them." is a consistent position.

However that is not the line of reasoning that I am addressing in my previous post, and based on the interviews, articles, posts, etc., this is not the line of reasoning that the majority of Vick haters are bringing to the table.

They are saying "Vick is a scumbag because he had those dogs tortured and killed". Whom, if one consumes most of any meat in the markets or eateries these days, is supporting the same slaughter that they are condemning Vick for, and are hypocrites.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

Shut your face -- ouch...let me see if I can match your intellectual vigor : *Sticks-out-tounge-and-thumb-on-nose*. High School class of 2012 I assume.


A position of "Vick is a scumbag because he had those dogs tortured and killed and didn't consume them." is a consistent position.

However that is not the line of reasoning that I am addressing in my previous post, and based on the interviews, articles, posts, etc., this is not the line of reasoning that the majority of Vick haters are bringing to the table.

They are saying "Vick is a scumbag because he had those dogs tortured and killed". Whom, if one consumes most of any meat in the markets or eateries these days, is supporting the same slaughter that they are condemning Vick for, and are hypocrites.

:nohead:

I know you trying to link dog fighting and consuming meat, but that is a stretch most people aren't going to take very serious. Vick was fighting these dogs for sport and for entertainment, people eat meat because they like/need protein in their diet. Using this logic, why have sex with your wife if you dont support rape?

:lol:

 

[Bjizzle06]

fletchisrhsm,

Vick was fighting these dogs for sport and for entertainment, people eat meat because they like/need protein in their diet. Using this logic, why have sex with your wife if you dont support rape?

That is not my logic. I'm talking about dog killing. Based on what I've seen and read, the majority of Vick haters are damning him based on the fact that he had dogs killed. And all I'm saying is that it is hypocritical to condemn him based on that, when slaughter house methods are just as bad or worse.

"Dogfighting is evil, therefore Vick is a scumbag" = consistent.

"Killing animals for reasonons other than consumption is evil, therefore Vick is a scumbag" = consistent.

"Vick had those dogs tortured and killed, therefore he is a scumbag. By the way, this KFC tastes good!" = INCONSISTENT

I don't have a problem with meat consumption, or what goes on in slaughter houses. I have a problem with people saying Vick is a scumbag for killing dogs, while the deer head is on their wall, and the KFC is on their kitchen table.

 

[theriddler01]

I don't care where you live it is not acceptable.

Ya wanna know what else they used to do in the dirty South? Hang black people. So me being in the South, and since that's what us whitey's used to do, it's OK then?

Way harsh I know, but get the point?

 

[theriddler01]

Here'a a pic of one of vic's dogs that was saved. Most of you have probably seen this. This is a really neat thing to do to dogs huh? We should all give him 50 bucks to help him out. What a nice guy!

 

[CarolinaKid]

Again this jerk should never play in the NFL and by some chance he does, the fans should boycott that team until his ass is sent packing.i know if he was ever sent to a team that i follow i would never support that team again.ck

 

[fletchisrhsm]

I don't have a problem with meat consumption, or what goes on in slaughter houses. I have a problem with people saying Vick is a scumbag for killing dogs, while the deer head is on their wall, and the KFC is on their kitchen table.

Now i agree with you on this note because Hunting to me is fucking barbaric unless you have no money and need to eat. Killing for sport is something i could never get behind. As far as Vick goes, he is doing some pretty fucked up shit behind closed doors and its just not acceptable here. Now if your talking about hypocrites that hunt and what not, then i agree with you 100%. But that doesnt excuse this guy or them from being a sick fuck. Start a hunting thread and ill gladly support your claims, but again, that doesnt excuse this prick.

 

[RobFunk]

Jay-Z's Hundredth Problem: Canine Fur Coats

January 16, 2007




Another music-to-fashion crossover artist—this time Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter, who famously rapped that he had "99 problems"—was revealed to be selling fur from a type of dog, but the fur was described as "faux." (See video of a raccoon dog skinned alive for fur.)


©Jon Kopaloff/FilmMagic.com
©HSUS; inset photo from Biopix.dk
Designer: Jay-Z
Brand: Rocawear
Advertised as: "faux fur"
Labeled as: no fur label on jacket
Test Results: Raccoon Dog



The HSUS purchased a "faux fur" jacket from Jay-Z's Rocawear website, and sent it for lab testing to find out exactly what animal the fur really belonged to. The test showed that the fur was taken from raccoon dogs—a type of dog raised for fur in China.


Rocawear's online ad January 9, 2007.


Just weeks ago, hip-hop mogul Sean “Diddy” Combs and Macy’s department store pulled a Sean John brand jacket that was being advertised as faux fur, after tests commissioned by The HSUS revealed the fur was actually from raccoon dogs. Diddy announced that this particular coat would be trimmed only with faux fur in the future.

Jay-Z’s "faux fur"-advertised coat had no fur labeling on the jacket, so consumers have no way to know that what they think is faux is actually from raccoon dogs, who may have been skinned alive. The HSUS is working to pass legislation closing the federal loophole that currently allows coats with fur valued at $150 or less to have no label.

The latest revelations come as The HSUS continues to investigate the nationwide scourge of falsely advertised and labeled raccoon dog fur, often coming from China, where live skinning has been documented (warning: graphic footage). False advertising and labeling of fur garments are violations of federal law, and The HSUS has found problems on jackets by retailers and designers at all price levels. Mass spectrometry testing of fur-trimmed jackets from a variety of designers and retailers revealed that nine out of 10 were found to contain raccoon dog fur.

After it was discovered late last month that the J.C. Penney Co. was selling raccoon dog fur-trimmed jackets falsely labeled as "raccoon," the company removed the jackets from its racks. However, according to press reports this month, the company put the canine coats back on its racks and asked employees to black out the word "raccoon" with magic markers.

Because the fur industry does not police itself, and consumers who purchase any fur-trimmed garments cannot be sure whether they are buying a type of dog fur, The HSUS is calling on Congress to prohibit the import of raccoon dog fur.

 

[go2guy]

Why is it necessary to use the adjective black in the sentence describing Joey Porter. Dumb is one thing but a person's skin color is simply a physical trait that should have nothing to do with the topic being discussed, which is dogs.


wilheim

Good post Wil. I was wondering the same thing after reading his post.

 

[CarolinaKid]

I really dont think the NFL is hurting for players as to let this guy back in the league.........do you really want to watch this pot smoking, dog killer ass on the tube.not here, it time we put morals ahead of the all mighty dollar........ck

 

[theriddler01]

A raccoon dog? That is a funky looking animal!

There was a warning about dog fur trimmed coats about 5-6 years ago. They took some random coats and tested them and a lot turned out to be dog fur. They also tested these cute looking cat statues that turned out to be REAL CAT HAIR! EEK!!

I don't blame him for this. This has happened to many people before who were unaware what the fur actually was. But celebs need to learn, if you wanna put your name on something you need to know what's going on in the factories! I never buy fur trimmed anything after the special I saw.

 

[BASEHEAD]

A raccoon dog? That is a funky looking animal!

There was a warning about dog fur trimmed coats about 5-6 years ago. They took some random coats and tested them and a lot turned out to be dog fur. They also tested these cute looking cat statues that turned out to be REAL CAT HAIR! EEK!!

I don't blame him for this. This has happened to many people before who were unaware what the fur actually was. But celebs need to learn, if you wanna put your name on something you need to know what's going on in the factories! I never buy fur trimmed anything after the special I saw.

I think Jay Z puts his sellout ass on so many products how could ever really know what hes pimping?