I don't think it is a race thing honestly. Naturally you are going to have more uncooperating black witnesses probably because the percentage of black crimes among black people are higher than the percentage of white people committing crimes.
So my point is if most witnesses are non credible, then you are going to get a lot of non credible black witnesses.
Makes sense to me
A driving record and talking shit on twitter? He refused to pay multiple fines for driving violations (defiance) and there is a difference between "talking shit" and asking to seriously meet up and fight (violence). I swear some people like you are dedicated to twisting the truth
You may not think you're a liberal but if it quacks like a duck...
I think you're confusing not racist with liberal. I'm anti-big government which doesn't really fit the liberal mold. Unpaid fines isn't defiance it's laziness. The whole twitter incident was bizarre but it's not enough to call the guy violent. The guy that got arrested for assault in a road rage incident could probably be called violent. All good though.
Nope not confusing it at all. A non black being blind or overly optimistic about a black male's past and current behavior based on evidence is classic liberalism. Then you go on and say he's just lazy and bizarre to further make excuses.
If you are capable of being objective, notice that I from the start have maintained it could be either one at fault. You saw a dead black man and couldn't see straight Manterd
Actually, I've never assigned blame to either guy. I don't know whose fault it was. I simply took issue with the guys immediately blaming the black guy. I doubt we'll ever know what actually happened. You'll get Gasser's side of the story and that's it. Tough to defend yourself when you're dead.
For the record, not paying your speeding tickets bothers me about as much as gambling. It may not be legal but I'm not going to judge someone's character because of it.
Maybe. But like I already mentioned, if they wanted to exaggerate the story to get whitey then they could have said Gasser was the instigator. But all they said was he stood over him and told him not to fuck with him after he killed him. That's not going to convict him anymore than Gasser shooting through the window. So it doesn't even matter. Just non credible. That stand ground shit is thrown out the window if Gasser followed Mcknight to the intersection. Then it is game over.
It was a hectic scene I am sure. Someone giving cpr to Joe.
Maybe Gasser did get out of the car afterwards. If you kill someone over this my guees is you have reaction to your actions. Him yelling at Joe mcknight to sort of vindicate why he did it to himself.. I am sure Gasser made some remark so even though the witnesses didn't sound helpful at first, I think they will later. It was a busy intersection right next to a gas station. .....I highly doubt it was just black people who witnessed it lol.
So closed minded
Louisiana man who shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight charged with manslaughter
HARVEY, La. – The man who fatally shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight has been arrested and jailed on a charge of manslaughter.
Jail records show 54-year-old Ronald Gasser was arrested late Monday.
Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand has called a news conference for 10 a.m. Tuesday to discuss the case.
HARVEY, La. – The man who fatally shot ex-NFL player Joe McKnight has been arrested and jailed on a charge of manslaughter.
Jail records show 54-year-old Ronald Gasser was arrested late Monday.
Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand has called a news conference for 10 a.m. Tuesday to discuss the case.
[h=1]Joe McKnight shooter charged with second-degree murder.[/h]The man who told authorities he shot former New York Jets running back Joe McKnight has been charged with second-degree murder, the Jefferson Parish (Louisiana) District Attorney's office announced Thursday.If convicted, Ronald Gasser, 55, will face life in prison without the possibility of parole, probation or suspension of sentence. As a result of the indictment, Gasser's bond was increased to $750,000.
According to legal experts, a key factor in the grand jury's decision likely was whether Gasser could have felt McKnight was attempting to break into his car during the December incident near New Orleans. According to a witness who spoke to Outside the Lines in the past week, McKnight did not appear to be acting aggressively toward Gasser just before he was shot three times outside of his car at an intersection after an extended road-rage confrontation.
The witness, Andrew Bailey, 26, told Outside the Lines that McKnight was standing in the small space between his Audi SUV and the passenger window of Gasser's Infiniti sedan, "talking with his hands" and appearing to be having a "general conversation." Bailey -- who was waiting to turn on the other side of the Terrytown, Louisiana, intersection -- said the 28-year-old former Southern California star was not trying to force his way into Gasser's car. "He never moved closer to the vehicle."
When police arrived, Gasser, 54, immediately admitted that he shot McKnight, who was unarmed, from inside his vehicle. Police took into custody and then freed Gasser, who is white, within hours, sparking backlash in the community and accusations of preferential racial treatment. Four days later, Gasser was booked into jail; police at that point said they did so after conducting more than 160 interviews and questioning the suspect for more than 12 hours.
In a news conference after Gasser's arrest, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand criticized comments on social media, declared that the incident wasn't racially motivated and noted that a witness who said Gasser stood over McKnight and shot him was discredited by the coroner's report. "Two people engaged in bad behavior that day," he said. "Why? I don't know."
While the results of the autopsy indicated that Gasser did not shoot McKnight while he was lying on his back, Bailey, along with another witness who spoke to TMZ, said the shooter did stand over McKnight as he died, gun in hand.
"There were people running over to check on Joe ... he was swinging the gun at everybody," said Bailey, who gave his full account to police. He instructed his girlfriend, who was sitting in the passenger seat, to take a photograph of Gasser standing over McKnight's body.
One of the bystanders who rushed to the scene was Wendell Sam, a Navy officer. According to Normand, Sam -- who happens to be a relative of Bailey's -- urged Gasser to put his weapon down, explaining that he "did not want to shoot a military officer," then tried to administer CPR to McKnight after pulling his body from between the cars. A video of the lifesaving attempt was posted online.
Ken Levy, an associate law professor at LSU, said the defendant's attorneys might argue that Gasser's actions were justified under Louisiana Revised Statute 14:20, which says a person can use deadly force to thwart someone from unlawfully entering their car. "You have to reasonably believe that they're trying to get in, and they present a threat of serious bodily injury or death," Levy said.
While Louisiana's justifiable homicide statute also has a so-called "stand your ground" provision, which states that a person is not obligated to retreat in the face of a threat, Levy said the law might not factor into Gasser's case. The provision was notably invoked in the trial of Cardell Hayes, who shot and killed former NFL player Will Smith in New Orleans last year. "That would be relevant if McKnight had challenged him to a fight, and [Gasser] had gotten out of the car," he said.
Gasser's lawyer, Gerald Archer, did not respond immediately to a request for comment.
McKnight, one of the most highly touted football recruits in the country when he graduated from John Curtis Christian High School in River Ridge, Louisiana, played at USC and then for the Jets for three years. After a stint with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2014, he last played for the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders.
Speaking briefly to Outside the Lines, Johanna McKnight, Joe's sister, said, "We very much hope for justice."
According to legal experts, a key factor in the grand jury's decision likely was whether Gasser could have felt McKnight was attempting to break into his car during the December incident near New Orleans. According to a witness who spoke to Outside the Lines in the past week, McKnight did not appear to be acting aggressively toward Gasser just before he was shot three times outside of his car at an intersection after an extended road-rage confrontation.
The witness, Andrew Bailey, 26, told Outside the Lines that McKnight was standing in the small space between his Audi SUV and the passenger window of Gasser's Infiniti sedan, "talking with his hands" and appearing to be having a "general conversation." Bailey -- who was waiting to turn on the other side of the Terrytown, Louisiana, intersection -- said the 28-year-old former Southern California star was not trying to force his way into Gasser's car. "He never moved closer to the vehicle."
When police arrived, Gasser, 54, immediately admitted that he shot McKnight, who was unarmed, from inside his vehicle. Police took into custody and then freed Gasser, who is white, within hours, sparking backlash in the community and accusations of preferential racial treatment. Four days later, Gasser was booked into jail; police at that point said they did so after conducting more than 160 interviews and questioning the suspect for more than 12 hours.
In a news conference after Gasser's arrest, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand criticized comments on social media, declared that the incident wasn't racially motivated and noted that a witness who said Gasser stood over McKnight and shot him was discredited by the coroner's report. "Two people engaged in bad behavior that day," he said. "Why? I don't know."
While the results of the autopsy indicated that Gasser did not shoot McKnight while he was lying on his back, Bailey, along with another witness who spoke to TMZ, said the shooter did stand over McKnight as he died, gun in hand.
"There were people running over to check on Joe ... he was swinging the gun at everybody," said Bailey, who gave his full account to police. He instructed his girlfriend, who was sitting in the passenger seat, to take a photograph of Gasser standing over McKnight's body.
One of the bystanders who rushed to the scene was Wendell Sam, a Navy officer. According to Normand, Sam -- who happens to be a relative of Bailey's -- urged Gasser to put his weapon down, explaining that he "did not want to shoot a military officer," then tried to administer CPR to McKnight after pulling his body from between the cars. A video of the lifesaving attempt was posted online.
Ken Levy, an associate law professor at LSU, said the defendant's attorneys might argue that Gasser's actions were justified under Louisiana Revised Statute 14:20, which says a person can use deadly force to thwart someone from unlawfully entering their car. "You have to reasonably believe that they're trying to get in, and they present a threat of serious bodily injury or death," Levy said.
While Louisiana's justifiable homicide statute also has a so-called "stand your ground" provision, which states that a person is not obligated to retreat in the face of a threat, Levy said the law might not factor into Gasser's case. The provision was notably invoked in the trial of Cardell Hayes, who shot and killed former NFL player Will Smith in New Orleans last year. "That would be relevant if McKnight had challenged him to a fight, and [Gasser] had gotten out of the car," he said.
Gasser's lawyer, Gerald Archer, did not respond immediately to a request for comment.
McKnight, one of the most highly touted football recruits in the country when he graduated from John Curtis Christian High School in River Ridge, Louisiana, played at USC and then for the Jets for three years. After a stint with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2014, he last played for the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders.
Speaking briefly to Outside the Lines, Johanna McKnight, Joe's sister, said, "We very much hope for justice."
Weird
The part I made bold doesn't make any sense if indeed Mcknight wasn't being threatening. If his vehicle is right beside Gasser's, why would he exit it other than to threaten or intimidate? Think about it. If you are mad at another driver and are pulled up right beside him, all you have to do is roll down the window if you just want to talk. Try to imagine what is on your mind if you exit your vehicle. What are your intentions other than to escalate the situation?
Can't imagine Gasser gets convicted of second degree murder. I don't even see how he got charged with it based on the definition of second degree murder. Voluntary manslaughter seems much more accurate, but maybe they don't have that category in that jurisdiction? Either way, no chance he gets life IMO
