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That moment when Netanyahu realizes what a bafoon he's dealing with







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Pres. Trump with Netanyahu: "I never mentioned the word or the name Israel" during Oval Office meeting with Russians (link: http://abcn.ws/2q9OnIJ) abcn.ws/2q9OnIJ
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11:29 AM · May 22, 2017297 RETWEETS
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[ScottL]

My head hurts from this peace fantasy already. Why do US presidents keep pretending? Why do they give effort and speak in wishes about this intractable conflict? You can't negotiate deals unless you have two sides willing to compromise.

Palestinian leaders keep repeating they will never accept a Jewish State. They want one state for Palestinians, and another state they can overrun with 'refugees' (any Arab can call himself a refugee because the Pals are an invented people. Their last 2 leaders were an Egyptian and a Jordanian) who can then vote out the democratic state in the next election. It's a sham.

And what do you do about Hamas in Gaza?

And what about the thousands of rockets Iran has restocked Hizb'Allah with all aimed at Israel from Lebanon? A war Iran can restart at a moment's notice. Then we can go through the whole process again. James Zogby crying on CNN that Israel is destroying Lebanon. Fake ambulance drills by Hizb'Allah. Fake pictures of UN workers pulling out dead children from the ground where after the damage is done to Israel in the world press, oops sorry, those pictures are actually 5 years old and from Syria.

Do we really want to play this game..... Again? A "Peace Process" that can only go so far until Arab terrorists or Iran ensures it unravels?

Trump is wasting his time. And this will only end in more blood!

 

[superbeets]

There will never be peace.

Because there will never never never never be a return to 1967 borders.


Palestinians want 1967 borders

Israel will never except 1967 borders because that makes Israel impossible to defend.

 

[ScottL]

There will never be peace.

Because there will never never never never be a return to 1967 borders.


Palestinians want 1967 borders

Israel will never except 1967 borders because that makes Israel impossible to defend.

So as you just stated without spelling it out is the same thing I said. 1967 armistice lines are just another Palarab ruse as part of the "Plan of Phases" to destroy Israel.

 

[ScottL]

Caroline Glick just set the record straight on Obama and his mouthpiece.....

"Dan Shapiro truly is a disgrace. After happily representing the most anti-Israel president in US history for six years as US ambassador to Israel, he shamelessly took the unprecedented decision to remain in the country as a tourist. He spends his time here touting Obama's record in a transparent attempt to rewrite the historical record.

Of course, given the US media's determination to subvert with the hope of ending the Trump presidency, it makes sense that the disgraceful propaganda sheet, the Washington Post would commission an oped from him pretending that Israelis miss Obama the day before Trump arrives in Israel.

But I still haven't managed to digest the fact that Shapiro has the unmitigated chutzpah to pretend that Obama was a friend or that he, Obama's representative charged with implementing the most hostile US policy towards Israel anyone ever saw or dreamed of, is himself pro-Israel.

His oped is full of lies and distortions. I mean, here's a gem: "The United States gave Israel full backing to defend itself, whether against rocket and tunnel attacks by Hamas in Gaza or attempts to smuggle dangerous weapons to Hezbollah in Lebanon."

Obama closed down Ben Gurion airport, apropos of nothing in an act of economic warfare against Israel during Operation Protective Edge. He instituted an embargo on Hellfire missiles. He forced us to accept repeated ceasefires that ruined our military tempo. He tried to coerce us into accepting Hamas's ceasefire terms.

And Syria? You've got to be kidding me. The Obama administration repeatedly leaked information about Israeli operations in Syria to the media to endanger our operations.

And again, this is only one example.

This, my friends, is not just fake news, it is fake humanity, fake friendship. It is pure phony baloney, like Shapiro himself and his professed love for Israel.
Shame on him. Shame on the Washington Post."

 

[mplastered]

There will never be peace.

Because there will never never never never be a return to 1967 borders.


Palestinians want 1967 borders

Israel will never except 1967 borders because that makes Israel impossible to defend.

No, they don't. They want Jews dead. They could give a rats ass about borders.

 

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Oh man, watch Israeli ambassador Ron Dermer (on right couch) react when Trump says—in Israel—"We just got back from the Middle East." Facepalm.
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U.S. President Donald Trump ( left) and Israeli President Reuven Rivlin (right) spoke Monday in Jerusalem about the threat posed by ISIS, Iran and Syria

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Trump told Rivlin that he believes Iran must 'never' be armed with a nuclear weapon

 

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VOA: Israel has changed its intel-sharing protocols with the U.S. after Trump gave classified intel to the Russians


Israel Alters Intelligence Sharing with USvoanews.com

 

[ScottL]

Iran's Gen. Soleimani Declares Support for Hamas to Liberate "the Entire Palestinian Territory"
Revolutionary Guards Quds Force Commander Maj. Gen. Ghassem Soleimani on Wednesday congratulated Ismail Haniyeh on his election as the new leader of the Political Bureau of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas). Soleimani underlined the evil plots of Zionism and global Arrogance [the U.S.] who seek to weaken the Islamic Ummah; "they are trying to distract Ummah's jihad from its Islamic path....We count on your efforts to place Palestine on top of Muslims' global fight [against Arrogance]." Soleimani expressed hope that Haniyeh's efforts continue until the liberation of Al-Aqsa and the entire Palestinian territory. (Mehr News-Iran)

 

[ScottL]

• PA Official: Trump to Launch Unconventional Peace Plan - Daniel Siryoti
  U.S. President Donald Trump will launch an unconventional peace plan based on the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative, focusing on upgrading Israel's relations with Arab states rather than on reaching an agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, a senior Palestinian Authority official told Israel Hayom. According to the official, Trump told Abbas that if progress would be made in advancing the Arab Peace Initiative, he would try to strike an interim peace deal that would focus on the various paths toward a final status agreement culminating with the creation of an independent Palestinian state and a joint Israeli-Palestinian statement declaring an end to the conflict.
  The president reportedly said that the first phase would include some form of normalization between moderate Sunni-Arab states and Israel. Later on, depending on how much progress is made, the U.S. would try to launch direct negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians with a set timetable aimed at finding a compromise on the core issues. This marks a shift, since Arab leaders have repeatedly said that normalization of relations must come only after core issues are resolved and a Palestinian state is established with Jerusalem as its capital.
  The Palestinian official said Abbas responded by saying the Palestinians were vehemently opposed to such a move. (Israel Hayom)

 

[ScottL]

Israel paid in dead bodies for Clinton's last ditch effort to make his legacy something other than a cum-stained dress. Trump's naivety is going to cause more Jewish blood to be spilled. THEY DON"T WANT PEACE!

 

[ScottL]

Fuck 'em they're all terrorists anyway!

• Gaza Electricity Reduced after PA Refuses to Pay - Tovah Lazaroff
  For the last few months the PA has cut electricity to Gaza by limiting what it pays for electricity. Israel supplies 125 MW of electricity to Gaza and the PA pays the monthly bill of NIS 40 million. This week the PA told Israel it would only pay NIS 25-30 million a month.
  Maj.-Gen. Yoav Mordechai, Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories, told BBC Arabic Radio, "This is an internal Palestinian issue and not an Israeli-Palestinian issue." Gaza's power plant, which had provided 120 MWs, shut down in April, unable to pay the taxes the PA imposed on the diesel fuel to run it. Since then, people in Gaza have lived with four to six hours of electricity a day, which may now decline to three hours. (Jerusalem Post)

 

[ScottL]

EU still fighting to help the Pals finish the Holocaust

• European Ambassadors Boycott Tour of New Israeli Rail Route Because It Goes Under West Bank - Barak Ravid
  Israel's Transportation Ministry canceled a tour for foreign diplomats of tunnels for the fast Tel Aviv-Jerusalem railway line under construction after the head of the EU delegation to Israel, Lars Faaborg-Andersen, urged the ambassadors not to participate because a portion of the route passes through the West Bank.
  A senior European diplomat noted, however, that European diplomats use Route 443, a highway which runs beyond the 1967 lines between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and would use the new train line once it is in operation.
  Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz said, "The intervention of the ambassador from the European Union and his attempt to prevent the ambassadors from coming constitutes inappropriate interference in the internal affairs of the State of Israel. Are they boycotting the fast train to Jerusalem?" An official in his ministry said that a segment of a railway tunnel that is on the other side of the Green Line is a few hundred meters in length. (Ha'aretz)

 

[ScottL]

The Palestinians Can Win If They Give Up Victim Status - Jim Hanson
After World War II, the Italians, Germans and Japanese left behind their failed attempts at conquest and consequently they were treated to the benevolence of the Allies and a rebuilding process that turned them into modern nations. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have maintained belligerence and failure to even accept the existence of Israel in any meaningful way. Their Arab friends have made multiple attempts to destroy Israel and failed each time. Then the Palestinians switched to terrorism as a strategy and turned their proto state into an international pariah. This profound failure to comprehend their profound failure to destroy Israel has kept them in perpetual victim status.
Billions of dollars in aid have flowed into the Palestinian territories. Some studies show it to be 25 times more per capita than was spent to rebuild Europe after World War II. Yet there is little in the way of progress and there are still "refugee" camps that have stood for decades. Their state of perpetual grievance has prevented them from using this largesse to build an actual state. If they were to do so, they could dedicate themselves to the challenge of giving their people quality of life rather than a false hope they will somehow drive the Israelis out of Israel. (Fox News)

 

[ScottL]

Video: Media Myth - East Jerusalem Is Traditionally Arab Territory
Only between 1948 and 1967 was eastern Jerusalem exclusively Arab, after Jordan occupied it and expelled the area's Jewish residents, destroyed its synagogues, and desecrated the historic Jewish cemetery (they used Jewish headstones in urinals -SL). Jewish presence in eastern Jerusalem goes back to King David in 1004 BCE and Jews continued to live there ever since.
The New York Times reported on May 30, 1948, "The Jews have been eliminated from the City of David for the first time since the sixteenth century. Except for 60 years in the sixteenth century they are believed to have been there continuously since the return from the Babylonian captivity [after 539 BCE]." Next time journalists say "East Jerusalem is Arab," send them this video. (CAMERA)

 

[ScottL]

50 Years after the Six-Day War, We Shouldn't Lament Israel's Power to Protect Itself - Jonathan Miller (Alabama Media Group)

• In May 1967, Gamal Abdel Nasser, the President of Egypt, who had joined in a military alliance with Syrian President Hafez el Assad, daily promised to "drive Israel into the sea." Jews around the world were anxious beyond belief. It was scant more than twenty years since the liberation of the death camps in Europe and the odds were overwhelming that the next cataclysm against our people was soon to begin. In a stunning six-day victory, Israel defeated the combined Arab armies, reunited Jerusalem, took the Golan Heights and made its way to the Suez Canal.
  
• It is difficult for Israel to extricate itself from the obligation of having to send its young people to the territories in uniform to oversee other people's lives. Israel uprooted 8,000 long-time inhabitants of Gaza to make the territory Jew-free with the hope that without an occupation Gaza could transform itself into a Singapore. We know from history that this was a terrible mistake which has exacted an enormous cost on Palestinians and Israelis in terms of suffering, treasure and death.
• Some opinion-makers have opined that the Six-Day War was a catastrophe. I cannot agree. It is far better that Israel won the war decisively than were it to have lost the war entirely. It is not hard to imagine the nature of the bloodbath that would have occurred on the streets of an Arab-occupied Tel Aviv or Jerusalem.
• Israel's adversaries refuse to accept its existence and the existence of Jews living in the Land of Israel. That is the root of the problem, going back more than a hundred years. Once that is solved, everything else will fall into place.
• To be honest, there is something crazy about lamenting the fact that we Jews have the power to protect ourselves and that we will no longer be subject to the bullies and murderers who have tormented us. I would rather live with the moral struggle of the past 50 years than die the good death of a martyr to another round of anti-Jewish hatred and violence.
  
  Jonathan Miller is a rabbi at Temple Emanu-El in Birmingham, Alabama.

 

[919]

Some good reading

 

[ScottL]

919 just so you know those are main points from articles and op-eds. You can get to full articles by clicking anywhere inside red lettering.

 

[919]

919 just so you know those are main points from articles and op-eds. You can get to full articles by clicking anywhere inside red lettering.

I did, thanks