All well and good with one caveat... It's all past history. If I were to give a comparison, look at what Peyton Manning did when he got into the game last week versus the type of leader that Rodgers has been over the last 2 months. Rogers was literally talking to himself as he left the field in the Arizona game and for good reason. He has very little confidence at this point with his offensive line and the receivers that he has to deal with. Cousins, on the other hand, has been a real leader. I suspect if you went back and had Green Bay play Carolina again it would have been the same result as what you saw in the Arizona game. But again all the comments you're making regarding Washington are things that happen basically about 2 months ago or longer. I like to look at what teams have done recently and all I'm seeing is a Green Bay team that is imploding. But I guess we'll see. Good luck to you this weekend
All well and good with one caveat... It's all past history. If I were to give a comparison, look at what Peyton Manning did when he got into the game last week versus the type of leader that Rodgers has been over the last 2 months. Rogers was literally talking to himself as he left the field in the Arizona game and for good reason. He has very little confidence at this point with his offensive line and the receivers that he has to deal with. Cousins, on the other hand, has been a real leader. I suspect if you went back and had Green Bay play Carolina again it would have been the same result as what you saw in the Arizona game. But again all the comments you're making regarding Washington are things that happen basically about 2 months ago or longer. I like to look at what teams have done recently and all I'm seeing is a Green Bay team that is imploding. But I guess we'll see. Good luck to you this weekend
Green Bay Packer "stock" is way down. They've been on TV (Sunday & Monday nights) so damn often this year, their lack of offensive play has been exposed to the general-public. I don't think the Packers will be a "public" play come game-time......The Packers are hurting and Rodgers is NOT a happy camper.
Very good points. I also like the Packers this week for a couple more different reasons.
I think people underestimate how much easier it is to line up against an offense when you see it on a regular basis. The Skins haven’t played the Packers since 2013, and only three starters (Ryan Kerrigan, DeAngelo Hall and Chris Baker) on their D were around for that game. The Skin's defense may have some difficulties in this game.
Also, Kirk Cousins may have been one of the hottest quarterbacks in the league during the regular season, but he’s still relatively inexperienced with only 25 career starts. These are the type of QB's who often struggle against Green Bay’s defense. While talented and smart veterans are able to decipher coordinator Dom Capers’ blitz schemes and know exactly where to deliver the ball in a matter of seconds, less talented and/or less experienced QBs can be easily confused by all the different looks. If Cousins falls into that category and makes a few key mistakes on Sunday, the Packers can win this game.
Past history is meaningful.
I'm not getting caught up in who's a leader or any of that. Rodgers is a Super Bowl winning QB. If you don't think his teammates look at him as a leader, you're nuts. This game won't be decided because Cousins hollars......"You Like That!" after every win, or because Rodgers was mumbling during a bad loss.
Washington has beaten up on bottom feeders, every time they have stepped up in class they have lost. Green Bay has a better defense, better running game. An experienced playoff tested QB vs one that isn't.
The line is close to PK because Washington is at home. The books don't mind having a side in the game. Washington -1 seems like a cheap price to the betting public, and tells me they wouldn't mind at all if GB wins.
Yep, and based on that, the Chief suck because they were terrible their first 5 games....brilliant. Well I am getting caught up with who is acting like a leader, and it ain't Rogers. I'm amazed when I see a guy who is so often put up on a pedestal with Manning and Brady, and yet watching him over the last few weeks, he looks like a Trent Dilfer. To me, Rogers should be able to do exactly what Manning did last week against SD. He was helping his offensive line by calling out blitzes, and everyone around him played better. Not the case with Rogers. When all is said and done, I'm sure he'll be in the HOF but right now (which is all I care about), he's playing no better than a mediocre QB with a terrible supporting cast. Sorry many of you can't admit that.
You play the competition that is in front of you (Washington has no control over their schedule). By your logic, Carolina should suck too then. All you can logically claim is you don't know how good or bad Washington is.
Geezus, way to take something completely out of context.
Carolina should suck too, by my logic? That's just a stupid comment. They are 15-1, did you happen to notice that??
The KC example you made was also retarded.
We are comparing who they beat. If you had a fucking clue, you would understand that. You want to handicap body language? Go to the racetrack and look at a horse.
Carolina should suck too, by my logic? That's just a stupid comment. They are 15-1, did you happen to notice that??
The KC example you made was also retarded.
We are comparing who they beat. If you had a fucking clue, you would understand that. You want to handicap body language? Go to the racetrack and look at a horse.
Great retort. You sit there and complain about who they played and then when someone uses your logic against you, you say it's taken out of context. Carolina played bottom feeders also since their schedule ranked between 29th and 32nd in strength of schedule, depending on where you looked and yet you won't make the same comment about them (because if you're 15-1. it's OK if you got there beating bottom feeders). No, not a stupid comment. You just don't like it because it shows that you're illogical. Then you want to go back 2 months, but when it comes to another team that I believe went 1-4 to start the season...nope, that doesn't count. Sure thing.
Ultimately, I couldn't care less as neither of these teams are going to represent the NFC in the Superbowl (nor is this game some big bet for me...I've already said my money is on the Seahawks and Steelers this weekend...probably won't even wager on this one). But that doesn't stop me from pointing out dumb logic. And win or lose, your comment is still illogical.
One team is 15-1, the other 9-7. I'm not complaining about anything, if you want to have a reasoned debate tone down the arrogance and condescension.
The 15-1 team may have had a poor SOS, but they also beat the good teams they faced...something Washington didn't do.
The point you ignore is that Carolina beat both good and bad teams, Washington just bad ones. My point isn't illogical at all, its based on facts.
The 15-1 team may have had a poor SOS, but they also beat the good teams they faced...something Washington didn't do.
The point you ignore is that Carolina beat both good and bad teams, Washington just bad ones. My point isn't illogical at all, its based on facts.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to waste my time rewriting post #21, since you apparently can't comprehend it. It's one thing to have a disagreement. It's entirely another to ignore what's been said and keep repeating a comment that's already been addressed. Having a reasoned conversation involves comprehending and acknowledging a comment, instead of pretending you didn't see it. If at that point, you don't agree with it, then you can agree to disagree. It's not that difficult.
This turned out to be a tremendous piece of handicapping. Just look for the guy who acts like a "leader".
Doesn't matter if that team hasn't beaten any good teams, and the good teams they actually faced whipped them. Doesn't matter that they have a mediocre, at best, defense. Doesn't matter that the other team has a proven playoff QB and coach. No sir. Just find the team with the QB that screams into cameras after the game, shows "leadership", and bet against the QB with the bad body language.
Guys, according to this genius, we should just fucking unload on Kansas City next weekend. Did you get a load of Brady last week? Miami pressured him all day, Brady only threw the ball 5 times the entire 1st half. He was sulking, gimpy ankle, no time to throw. His body language was terrible. Does it matter he has won multiple championships? Or his coach for that matter? Nope.
Shit, wait a minute. It actually did matter today. The team with the coach and QB that have actually performed in the playoffs beat the team that had a coach/QB with no experience of winning in the playoffs. Damn, forget that whole "leadership" thing and the poor body language. The poor "leader" actually won today.
Sorry guys, thought all we had to do is find the QB with the bad leadership skills and poor body language from the previous game(s), bet against him, and we had a sure fire winner.
Looks like its back to the drawing board.
