Is Cable Modem more legal than phone modem when betting?

[CHOPTALK]

The federal Wire Act of 1960, is about wagering over a telephone line, which is needed for a phone modem, which is why some say internet betting is illegal. But if you use a cable modem, eliminating the phone line, does this not make the federal Wire Act of 1960 void?

 

[Dante]

choptalk I thought about this a few weeks ago....you may be onto something

 

[jjgold]

both highy illegal

 

[Dante]

:lolBIG: :lolBIG:

both highy illegal

 

[D2bets]

both highy illegal

Relying on legal advice from JJGold is a little like sending your 11 year old son to a sleepover at the Neverland Ranch -- it makes you feel real uncomfortable and has a high likelihood of resulting in some sort of lawsuit.

 

[Fishhead]

both highy illegal

Get off the shitter!

---FISH---

 

[WildBill]

Are you a professional involved in the business of wagering? If not he Wire Act doesn't apply to you. State laws might.

I asked this question to a legal expert and he said a court would probably say they are included since these days phone calls are sent over the net and satellite, and wireless spectrum I presume.

 

[jjgold]

Anyone betting sports on net or phone is breaking the law period.

You cannot bet on sports unless you live in Vegas and bet with licensed sportsbooks in Vegas and or Nevada period.

All the rookies popping in in this thread, let me deal with the legal issues and you boys try to beat the games

 

[Number13]

JJ may be a lot more correct here than many would care to admit. The problem however is NOT with the Wire Act or other federal law but it's STATE law you should be concerned with.

 

[Fishhead]

JJ may be a lot more correct here than many would care to admit. The problem however is NOT with the Wire Act or other federal law but it's STATE law you should be concerned with.

AGREE

 

[JohnnyDeMarco]

"Anyone betting sports on net or phone is breaking the law period.

You cannot bet on sports unless you live in Vegas and bet with licensed sportsbooks in Vegas and or Nevada period.

All the rookies popping in in this thread, let me deal with the legal issues and you boys try to beat the games"

JJ right on money here. And I'll add from personal experience if you receive funds from offshore books or local books-that can be deemd illegal proceeds and siezed.
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[X-Files]

I am just thankful that i am...Canadian, er, in Canada.

 

[jjgold]

Also carrying a schedule book is illegal, promoting gambling and you could get arrested

Again you can only bet sports in Nevada and must be in nevada to place that wager

Gov't has bigger problems than slapping fines on bettors in usa

Johnny Demarco backs me up here

 

[Number13]

The New Jersey Attorney General's internet gambling FAQ:

http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ge/internet_gambling/faqs.htm

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Internet gambling is not only unregulated, in New Jersey, it's illegal.​

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A. Internet gambling, of any kind, is not legal in New Jersey. Unlike our Atlantic City casinos, Internet casinos are not regulated. That means that we have not tested the games to make sure that they operate fairly and with integrity. Further, even if a person wins an Internet wager from a casino-style game, horse race or sporting event, we cannot be sure that he or she will ever be paid.

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Q. If an Internet casino operates from outside New Jersey or outside the United States, does that mean I am free to play there?

A. No matter where the site operators are located, Internet gambling is illegal in New Jersey. It is not legal to offer on-line gambling to New Jersey residents or to accept bets placed in New Jersey, and it is not legal to operate Internet gambling in New Jersey.


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Q. I've gambled on-line, but I didn't receive winnings I am owed. Who can help me?

A. We're doing our best to keep New Jersey's citizens from being cheated, and the best way to do that is to encourage you to avoid Internet gambling altogether. If you choose to engage in Internet gambling, despite these warnings and you are defrauded, you may find practical difficulty in trying to recoup your losses.

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Q. I think someone I know is gambling on-line and may have a problem. What should I do?

A. You may wish to seek the counsel of the New Jersey Council on Compulsive Gambling at 1-800-Gambler or by visiting the 1-800-Gambler website.

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Q. My child uses the Internet, but she/he is not old enough to gamble. Do I need to be concerned about Internet gambling?

A. Some sites claim to keep minors out, but many of our youth are extremely computer savvy, and it is not difficult to get past some of the safeguards. It is best to educate your children about the dangers and illegality of Internet gaming. Click here to learn more about protecting your children on-line.

Justice Department's Kids Page: Internet Do's and Don'ts

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Q. We have casinos, race tracks and lotteries in New Jersey. I thought gambling was legal here.

A. According to the State Constitution, gambling is illegal in New Jersey. Since the Constitution was written in 1947, we have passed laws that permit specific, limited, regulated gambling in New Jersey. Only licensed Atlantic City casinos, licensed race tracks, legalized games of chance and the New Jersey Lottery may operate and/or offer gambling in New Jersey.


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[WildBill]

JJ you are obviously no professional if that is your advice when it comes to this. It is illegal to book bets anywhere without a license. There is no federal law against betting PERIOD! To say otherwise is a lie PERIOD. Is that clear?

I believe the count is something around 20 states or so that have laws against betting, but some may not really be enforceable. A legal expert guesses that maybe 10 states have a good law to stand on against offshore betting, but the proof standards vary. Short of having hard evidence of a crime they won't get a conviction. Hard evidence generally requires gathering proof from both sides of a transaction, although courts have leeway on this. In other words in some states they would have to seize your computer to prove you placed a bet and the books records to prove they accepted it. GOOD LUCK to the AGs of the states on that one.

Coach let's start being professional here an tell the real truth ok?

 

[Dante]

JJ you are obviously no professional if that is your advice when it comes to this. It is illegal to book bets anywhere without a license. There is no federal law against betting PERIOD! To say otherwise is a lie PERIOD. Is that clear?

I believe the count is something around 20 states or so that have laws against betting, but some may not really be enforceable. A legal expert guesses that maybe 10 states have a good law to stand on against offshore betting, but the proof standards vary. Short of having hard evidence of a crime they won't get a conviction. Hard evidence generally requires gathering proof from both sides of a transaction, although courts have leeway on this. In other words in some states they would have to seize your computer to prove you placed a bet and the books records to prove they accepted it. GOOD LUCK to the AGs of the states on that one.

Coach let's start being professional here an tell the real truth ok?

great Post Wildbill...do you know off hand the 20 states that have laws against betting and/or the 10 states that have a GOOD law to stand on??


thanks in advance

 

[Lawrence]

what is Florida's specific stance on this?

 

[jjgold]

Billy if law enforcement comes into your home and go into your computer and see bets being placed and money being transfered from books to your bank, ect

YOU CAN BE ARRESTED FOR ILLEGAL GAMBLING PERIOD!!!!

IT IS A NO BRAINER AND I AM 500% CORRECT!!!

Billy do you know it is highly illegal to place horse wagers in NJ to legal USA racing hubs located in uSA??

Billy your out of your league here Son

Having a schedule books with money amounts next to games in your home is 500% illegal Son!!!

Billy this is not Vegas

 

[bigbet1234]

WB:

when you say professional business of wagering, does that mean placing bets, or taking them? if one make a living from betting online, and not accepting wagers, this is not covered under the wire act from my understanding.

BB

Are you a professional involved in the business of wagering? If not he Wire Act doesn't apply to you. State laws might.

I asked this question to a legal expert and he said a court would probably say they are included since these days phone calls are sent over the net and satellite, and wireless spectrum I presume.

 

[Fishhead]

Q. I've seen banner ads for Internet casinos and sports books on-line. Are they legal?

A. Internet gambling, of any kind, is not legal in New Jersey. Unlike our Atlantic City casinos, Internet casinos are not regulated. That means that we have not tested the games to make sure that they operate fairly and with integrity. Further, even if a person wins an Internet wager from a casino-style game, horse race or sporting event, we cannot be sure that he or she will ever.


WSEX or the NJ Lottery.......which operates more fairly?


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