That makes sense Chop appreciate the info - yes I feel it is the books fault in this case. Last time I got a check I paid the $100 fee and it was a bad check which they acknowledged. Of course it took a bunch of my time to get them to waive the fee for a check that would clear. They told me last week that they would have to contact management in order to see if they could just send me a 4k check. Told them to go ahead and contact management. Was told they couldn’t get ahold of management and they would send a request which would take 24-48 hours. B/S but I said okay. Almost a week later they say they can’t do it. Want me to pay $200 to get my money out in 2 installments over 2 weeks. Of course they mentioned the bitcoin route several times. They take your deposits in seconds yet it takes two people turning the same key at once to get your own money back plus a fee. Don’t want to go ballistic on them because it’s offshore and what am I going to do if they decide my account is all of a sudden at zero? I’ll prob go the bitcoin route thanks for the insight makes sense.