Is Anyone Really Surprised W/ A-Rod

[TonyMar]

me too, and frankly i really don't care what they did. just wish they would stop talking about it already. it's been like this for almost 7 years now.##)

pisses me off that they cannot simply cover the game...and write columns about the good stories...

like the rays last season...

or the brand new mlb network...and their excellent launch...

this stuff is all garbage...and put me down on your side...

i no longer care about which players took what.:toast:

 

[Gator627]

At least he came clean and admitted his steroid use.

 

[Gator627]

No way you can get that size without cheating. I have genetics and can put size on rather quickly, but once I reach that certain size I just plateau. it always happens . the only times I was able to get about 210lb is when i sauced, and then I was up to about 222lb. there is no possible way you can look like A-Rod does without cheating, and it was obvious he did

If you can only get to 210, you probably don't have the frame A-Rod has. Are you 6'4 with a long frame that is conducive to putting on weight? I doubt it if you can only get to 210. Also, I know you don't have the gym and nutritionist that A-Rod can have.

 

[rnorris1]

i agree. it's a shame these reporters can run around ruining people's lives without presenting cold hard facts. I keep hearing "allegedly". Give me a break, you don't ruin someone's care on some "alleged" information. This guy should be fired.

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Still think he should be fired after A-Rod fessed up on ESPN today?

 

[homedawg]

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Still think he should be fired after A-Rod fessed up on ESPN today?

no not at all. and never did i doubt that he wasn't guilty. just saying unless it is concrete they shouldn't come out with allegedly b/c sooner or later something alleged isn't going to be the truth.

 

[homedawg]

If you can only get to 210, you probably don't have the frame A-Rod has. Are you 6'4 with a long frame that is conducive to putting on weight? I doubt it if you can only get to 210. Also, I know you don't have the gym and nutritionist that A-Rod can have.

A-Rod just said he is only 225lb, and was 210 when he came up. He said he has put on 1lb a year.

 

[King83]

No way you can get that size without cheating. I have genetics and can put size on rather quickly, but once I reach that certain size I just plateau. it always happens . the only times I was able to get about 210lb is when i sauced, and then I was up to about 222lb. there is no possible way you can look like A-Rod does without cheating, and it was obvious he did

First of all your not a world class athelete with all of the nutritionists, access to EVERY supplement there is, and its not your job to be in the BEST shape possible. To say that AROD coundnt get that big without roids is ludicris.

Ever seen natural bobybuilders? alot bigger then AROD.

He has always had the perfect frame for putting on mass. Long and lean. The guy was the #1 pick out of HS for a reason.

To compare yourself to AROD in terms of working out, genetics, etc is laughable.hno:

BTW I know he did admit to steroid usage but it would be very possible for him to achieve that exact same body without using roids.

The stroids that he was using were more for recovery speed rather than strengh.

I see that you make alot of intelligent posts here but this was not one of them.

 

[majestikmoose]

Hi guys. It seems like most everyone is of similar opinion on this. They are just tired of hearing about it. While that is all well and good, it needs to be mentioned that Arod should face the same type of criticism that Palmiero (sp?) did. Equal punishment for equal "crimes". I put crimes in quotes because from what I understand, he didn't actually break any norms of the times. Cheater you say? Maybe according to the technical rules, but not with respect to the actualities.

I will even go one step further. AROD is the FIRST to immediately come out and say "yes I did those things and I was stupid. I recognize that some of my fans will not be able to forgive me, and for that I am sorry. I want to emphasize to kids that that is not the way to go." (I paraphrased a bit but I just got done watching the interview). I think Arod should be applauded for his honesty and, to a certain extent, forgiven. Maybe it will encourage others to follow suit. Then, for all you people who are tired of hearing about this, the sport will truly be able to move on and leave this dark period behind.

 

[homedawg]

First of all your not a world class athelete with all of the nutritionists, access to EVERY supplement there is, and its not your job to be in the BEST shape possible. To say that AROD coundnt get that big without roids is ludicris.

Ever seen natural bobybuilders? alot bigger then AROD.

He has always had the perfect frame for putting on mass. Long and lean. The guy was the #1 pick out of HS for a reason.

To compare yourself to AROD in terms of working out, genetics, etc is laughable.hno:

BTW I know he did admit to steroid usage but it would be very possible for him to achieve that exact same body without using roids.

The stroids that he was using were more for recovery speed rather than strengh.

I see that you make alot of intelligent posts here but this was not one of them.

I should have just left myself out of there. I was just trying to make a point involving my personal experience with the stuff. All I am trying to say is no matter how hard you work out, and how good you eat you always reach a certain point where you can't push any further. When you take steroids they give you that extra nudge that will send you to place you never thought you would have been able to reach. That is where I was comparing myself. When I reach a certain point without the sauce no matter what I do I can't get past it. I am sure if is the same case for A-Rod. No matter how hard he works out I am sure he reached a certain plateau, and that is when he turned to the sauce. I mean are you saying that if he continues to eat his spinach and stays working out he will get strong and stronger and stronger? No. Players reach that plateau where they can't put any more strength on and thats when they turn to the needle.

 

[Gumbi]

Seriously, in my honest opinion, back in 2003 and prior almost every player was on some type of Performance enhancements (and not only in baseball). You have to be stupid to think that professional athletes stay away from steroids. Some do, but many don't and it's not just to get big. I play baseball competively, only on the weekends, and I hurt for two days after the weekend ends. These guys tear their bodies apart everyday and need to get healthier much more quickly.

And to be fair to all of these guys, if you are in a situation where it's you or another guy being called up from the minors, you would take that enhancement to make the money and if you get caught you still get the money. I believe in fair play and don't condone what is going on, but you have to look at what was going on in those times. Everyone was doing it... and yes everyone. I know a couple of players in the majors who I went to High School with and trust me, players are still doing it.

To Homedawg.... Barry Bonds is still the best player to ever play this game (pitchers were taking steroids as well). In my opinion A-rod is the best player right now and will end up being better than Bonds.

I don't have time to write more tonight, but will stop back in again and write more.

 

[homedawg]

Seriously, in my honest opinion, back in 2003 and prior almost every player was on some type of Performance enhancements (and not only in baseball). You have to be stupid to think that professional athletes stay away from steroids. Some do, but many don't and it's not just to get big. I play baseball competively, only on the weekends, and I hurt for two days after the weekend ends. These guys tear their bodies apart everyday and need to get healthier much more quickly.

And to be fair to all of these guys, if you are in a situation where it's you or another guy being called up from the minors, you would take that enhancement to make the money and if you get caught you still get the money. I believe in fair play and don't condone what is going on, but you have to look at what was going on in those times. Everyone was doing it... and yes everyone. I know a couple of players in the majors who I went to High School with and trust me, players are still doing it.

To Homedawg.... Barry Bonds is still the best player to ever play this game (pitchers were taking steroids as well). In my opinion A-rod is the best player right now and will end up being better than Bonds.

I don't have time to write more tonight, but will stop back in again and write more.

trust me you aren't going to get any argument from me. imo Bonds is the best of all time