Iraq War Foes Were All Correct

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Where did I say that Iraq was tied to 911? I said that the Hussein regime supported terrorism - and there are reams of proof supporting that.
The weapons of mass destruction are a weapon that the terrorists could use to great effect in the US - and we all knowe that Saddam would provide su8ch weapons to the terrorsits in a second - to think otherwise would be suicidal!

Of course, you don't have a clue about what it's all about since you live in a third world nation.
 
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bblight,

Then call me "suicidal". I read/watch more than just CNN.
Does living in a Developing nation contribute to raw intelligence?

If so, how many languages do you speak, ignorante?
 

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Hussein was the worst of the regimes to support terrorism

That's just not true. The other countries you named are far worse than Irag ever was.

Hussein is a nut job, and I think we did the right thing by removing him, but he did not support the terrorists with whom we are fighting. I don't consider giving money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers to be 1) supporting terrorism and 2) we have no beef with the Palestinians. That's Israel's problem, not ours.

Again, there was no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda, nor is there any proof that Saddam supported any international terrorist groups. This is all just double-speak coming from the Fascist Bush regime.

The real supporters of terrorism are the Saudis and, of course, we do nothing about it. I wonder why that is?
 

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Originally posted by bblight:
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I agree ....George W Bush is a drunk.
Just kidding....LOL....I know thats not what you said.
 

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I agree with bblight 100%. Iraq was a "Disneyland" for terrorists, who used their soil for training grounds. That's all we need to go on. Plus, Saddam and his two inbred sons were torturous assholes that needed removed anyway.

What bothers me is how you all spout out this information like you know what you're talking about. How the hell do any of you know that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11? Are you guys standing next to President Bush every morning as he gets his intelligence briefings? You are getting incomplete information from your CNN and those liberal websites you are all so fond of. This administration is not going to discuss the intelligence that it gathers. Nor can you image the scope of information that it gathers.
 

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"Plus, Saddam and his two inbred sons were torturous assholes that needed removed anyway."

Um the bushes are directly related to the royal family in England, you might want to use an insult other than inbred.

"Are you guys standing next to President Bush every morning as he gets his intelligence briefings?"
No, yet some how I'm still completely confident that he doesn't understand those briefings.
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BTW, if bush2's info was so solid, why was falsified evidence presented to the U.N. to rally support?
 

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Once again, not everything is released to the public. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Members of the coalition may back out if they want. It might end up just the U.S.A. and England in this thing together or even the the U.S. going alone. Americans are prepared to meet this challenge though, although it carries a high price. The situation is extremely complicated and mistakes will be made. This is chess, not checkers. We will get help for sometimes unsavory figures, perhaps even human rights abusers. But we won't stop in our struggle for freedom and security for American people.

My family has fought for America and what it stands for, risking their lives. Maybe that's hard for some of the posters here (including you) to relate to.

Kaya, is it possible that you believe that the U.S. should not retaliate for the attacks on it's people? How would little Costa Rica react? Turn the other cheek, maybe? Grieve for a while and then get over it?

I'll make something clear to you.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL EXPORT VIOLENCE AND DEATH TO THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH IN DEFENSE OF IT'S PEOPLE, LAND AND WAY OF LIFE.

These terrorists and their supportors have f*cked with America in a big way.

Bush...."We will direct every resource at our command, every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, and every necessary weapon of war, to the disruption and to the defeat of the global terror network."

Sing that one in the church on Sunday!

Kaya man, why not drop your sophmorish retoric, join the team and go in for the big win?
 

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"Once again, not everything is released to the public. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. "

There was nothing to release.

"My family has fought for America and what it stands for, risking their lives. Maybe that's hard for some of the posters here (including you) to relate to."

Both grandfathers in WW2, great grandfather in WW1 so yes I can relate.

"Kaya, is it possible that you believe that the U.S. should not retaliate for the attacks on it's people?"
One more time for the slow ones, Bush1 gave Saddam plenty of reason to be pissed yet never retaliated in all these years. The excuses to start this war have been quashed and it's clear there were alterior motives. Wake up and smell the reality johnny.

"How would little Costa Rica react? "
I'm not Costa Rican just live here.

"THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL EXPORT VIOLENCE AND DEATH TO THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH IN DEFENSE OF IT'S PEOPLE, LAND AND WAY OF LIFE."

Possibly and guys like bush2 will do it for their own purposes too.

"Bush...."We will direct every resource at our command, every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, and every necessary weapon of war, to the disruption and to the defeat of the global terror network.""

You quote bush2, I see I've gotten into a debate with a real genious.
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"Kaya man, why not drop your sophmorish retoric, join the team and go in for the big win?"

I love it, another sheep eyed, blind bush2 follower, spewing empty right wing rhetoric (yeah there really is an "h" in rhetoric)implying anybody lib with an actual thought is immature or "sophmorish".

Oh "the big win" for the moment that would be getting the hell out of Iraq and getting bush2 out of office.
 

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You should be proud of your grandfathers serving like that.

I'm not sure if things would have worked out to your liking if Gore was in office. Obviously you don't like the decision to invade Iraq. Did you support the U.S. unleashing it's military on Afganistan? How do you feel this whole conflict should have been handled since 9/11?
 

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Let me rephase the Afgan. question.....Did you support the U.S. unleashing it's military against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afganistan?
 

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This stuff is only the tip of the iceberg, there is a lot more. Americans are just being played like always.

from http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/g6b_calgary.html

U.S. COMPLICITY IN 9-11 ATTACKS WIDELY ACCEPTED
AT G6B SUMMIT IN CANADA
Ruppert/Chossudovsky Draw Crowd of 1,200
U. of Ottawa Professor Says Evidence Shows U.S. Helped Plan Attacks
Ruppert Kicked Out of Canada -- But He Was Leaving Anyway
[Copyright 2002, From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com.
All Rights Reserved. May be copied or distributed for non-profit purposes only.]
June 27, 2002, 16:00 PDT (FTW) -- An estimated crowd of 1,200 turned out on June 25 at the University of Calgary’s MacEwan Hall to hear FTW Publisher Mike Ruppert and University of Ottawa Professor Michel Chossudovsky present evidence of and a rationale for U.S. government complicity in last September’s terrorist attacks. (See photos at www.fromthewilderness.com). Their two-and-a-half-hour presentation, including documentary evidence, was greeted with a standing ovation.
In a question and answer session after the lecture, not one audience member questioned that the Bush Administration needed the attacks in order to mobilize public support for a war to control Central Asian oil reserves and the cash from the Afghan opium trade. Traditionally, Afghanistan has been the world’s largest producer of opium.
The G6B -- standing for a global population of six billion people whose interests need to be balanced against the corporate interests of the industrialized world -- was a three-day event sponsored by, among others, the government of Canada, Amnesty International and the University of Calgary. It brought delegates and activists together from 60 countries. The counter summit was timed and located in Calgary, Alberta so as to juxtapose it with the G8 meeting in nearby Kananaskis of the world’s eight largest industrialized nations starting on June 26.
The first joint presentation involving Ruppert and Chossudovsky, an economics professor, presented the strongest evidence to date that not only did the Bush Administration have complete foreknowledge of the attacks and allow them to happen, but also that the CIA had a direct hand in financing the attacks. Chossudovsky presented documentary evidence from ABC news, citing FBI sources, confirming a report that Gen. Mahmud Ahmad, then-chief of the Pakistani intelligence service (ISI), ordered for $100,000 to be wired to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta just weeks before the attacks. The new corroboration from U.S. media, using FBI sources, gave considerable weight to earlier press stories originating in India linking the ISI to 9-11. [These new revelations will be the subject of an upcoming story in FTW].
"Gen. Ahmad arrived in Washington on Sept. 4 and met with, among others, his good friend [CIA Director] George Tenet, [Deputy Secretary of State] Richard Armitage, [Sen.] Joe Biden, [D-Del.,] and the heads of the two intelligence committees," Chossudovsky said.
"To me the issue of foreknowledge is a red herring. Osama bin Laden is and remains to this day a CIA asset. Even now his Al Qaeda operatives are working with the Kosovo Liberation Army who are U.S. allies and with U.S.-backed forces in Macedonia. Members of Al Qaeda have been protected as they moved into Kashmir where they are now fomenting conflict between India and Pakistan.
"The evidence is becoming clearer every day that the U.S. government helped to plan and fund the Sept. 11 attacks," said Chossudovsky.
In addition, Chossudovsky has uncovered what may be complicity on the part of the major media in hiding the smoking gun. Using transcripts from the Federal Records Service (FRS), Chossudovsky obtained the transcript of a question posed to National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rica at a May 16 press conference, in which she was asked if she had met with the "ISI chief" while he was in Washington. The CNN transcript of the event indicated that the words "ISI chief" were "inaudible" when, in fact, they were quite audible to the FRS. Rice’s response was a troubled, "I have not seen that report, and he was certainly not meeting with me."
Chossudovsky painted a broad picture of globalization pushing events toward a possible nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan by noting that one U.S. company with strong intelligence and military connections, MPRI of Vienna, Va., was acting as adviser to both governments. He also noted the strong links between CIA Director George Tenet and Deputy Secretary of State Armitage to the leaders of both countries. Chossudovsky also pointed out that President George W. Bush receives daily "personal" intelligence briefings from the CIA director -- a custom that has never previously been followed by any sitting president. Previously most CIA briefings have been delivered in written format.
Ruppert, using new evidence of U.S. government foreknowledge disclosed by major media sources and through recent press conferences, established that by using only open source material, the U.S. government had warnings that multiple airliners, most likely from United and American airlines would be hijacked during the week of Sept. 9 and crashed into the twin towers. Using revelations of intelligence intercepts and a Pentagon drill responding to an attack from a hijacked airliner staged prior to Sept. 11, Ruppert established that the Bush Administration’s position, which held it had no hint that aircraft would be used as weapons, was false. Pointing to last year’s G8 summit in Genoa, Italy, Ruppert noted that extensive precautions had been taken there (including anti-aircraft guns) to prevent just such an attack. A Los Angeles Times story disclosed that President Bush was the target of the suspected attacks in Genoa.
"Bush ought to be having some interesting conversations with the leaders of Italy, Germany, France and Russia since it was their intelligence services who forwarded detailed advance warnings to the CIA throughout the summer of 2001," said Ruppert. "And they referred specifically to suicide attacks with airliners."
Ruppert also debunked the notions that the 9-11 attacks were caused by a lack of cooperation between agencies, and that great numbers of people would have had to be involved in the U.S. end of the operation. Citing a BBC TV report by Gregg Palast which showed an FBI report stating that the Bush Administration had ordered the FBI to curtail investigations into bin Laden relatives, Ruppert demonstrated that orders were coming from levels above FBI and CIA leadership. Additionally, referring to the recent memorandum from FBI Special Agent Colleen Rowley and a press conference given by FBI Special Agent Robert Wright, Ruppert popped the government’s position that somehow the so-called intelligence "failures" of 9-11 were the result of negligence.
"If you look at the text of Rowley’s message and listen to what Wright said at his press conference, you hear and see words like, Ôobstruct,’ Ôdeliberately thwart,’ Ôintimidate,’ Ôblock,’ Ôharass,’ Ôdishonest,’ Ôrewrite,’ Ôomit,’ Ôundermine,’ Ôsuppress,’ Ôpunish,’ Ôretaliate’ and Ôprevent.’ These are not words describing negligence. These are words describing deliberate and willful actions.
"And if you note from both the Rowley memo and apparently from the Wright press conference, it was only one supervisory special agent at FBI headquarters who did all of the deliberate work to stop investigations that could have prevented the attacks. And what did Rowley tell us? Right after Sept. 11 the agent who had blocked the investigations was promoted!"
The $64,000 question remains unanswered: Was the agent in Rowley’s case also involved in blocking Wright’s Chicago-based investigations into money-laundering for terrorist groups, including Al Qaeda? In any event, the Rowley memorandum proves that just a few officials in key positions could have carried out the 9-11 conspiracy successfully.

LEAVING ANYWAY BUT KICKED OUT JUST THE SAME -- A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH AIR FORCE ONE
On entering Canada Ruppert was questioned first by Canadian Customs officials and then by immigration officers. Upon learning that Ruppert was a journalist and publisher of FTW the immigration officer typed Ruppert’s name into a computer and asked specifically if he was going near the G8 conference. Ruppert stated that he was only planning on attending the G6B conference and had plans to return to Los Angeles on June 25. Nonetheless, the immigration officer stamped Ruppert’s passport with a visa dated to expire on June 26, requiring that he not be in the country when the conference began. This highly unusual practice was offensive to many Canadians who pointed out that there are no visa requirements between the two countries.
After the lecture, as he was hurrying to the airport, Ruppert was questioned by the local press who photographed his passport as evidence of the Canadian government’s desire to censor coverage and public access to the conference.
Ruppert’s departure coincided with the arrival of President Bush and two identical 747 aircraft painted with Air Force One markings. He was able to photograph the arrival of the president and a heavy deployment of support and security aircraft. Ruppert’s flight home was delayed by more than an hour. He returned safely to Los Angeles while his suitcase was forced to spend the night in San Francisco. The Calgary lecture was Ruppert’s eighth stop in a month in his "Truth and Lies of 9-11" lecture series. He plans to spend the next six weeks working on new stories.
Photographs of the lecture, Ruppert's passport and the arrival of George W. Bush are below:
 

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That was great comedy material. I especially liked the end where Pres. Bush arrives as Ruppert was leaving. It was so ironic. I hope they gave Ruppert a full, deep cavity search in L.A.

I still would like to hear kayaman's views on how the response to 9/11 should have been handled.

For those who buy Ruppert's theory, I guess there would be no appropriate response since it was the U.S. behind the attacks in the first place. That was comedy. Keep looking and you can probably find a website that "proves" aliens from outerspace were behind it.
 

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