INTERTOPS.COM problem

[Aivan]

This guys are unbelievable!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>the customer's last name indicates he is from Bulgaria <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I send them my real IP address, they can check the logs of there server(s) and will find that I make my registration, bets and everything else from Bulgaria!
As I mention before, there was not any restriction for citizen of Bulgaria when I make my registration, when I make my bets!
This restriction suddenly appear when I WIN !

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>although he signed up as being from Poland. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

F*ck them!

All we are players!Everybody here understand that is impossible to make second registration at the same bookmaker, put to use the same name, address and exactly the same E-MAIL address !!!
But they make this with me! After my first e-mail to Intertops, I receive answer (e-mail) from itreqpr@intertops.com....and there THEY CHANGE my user name and my password with new!!! Now they said that I'm signed up as being from Poland?!?!?!

The results:
=> You can not fight with bookmakers, when they use illegal ways and means!
=> You never can feel that your money is safe. When some bookemaker like Intertops can make something like this with somebody...WHO WILL STOP HIM, TO MAKE THE SOMETHING WITH YOU?

=> At that moment, I will close all my accounts at exotic and island bookmakers. At that moment I will use only bookmakers from European Union, England and Australia! In that way I'll feel safe for my money, because there have a LAWS, and there bookmkers must to observe the laws!!!

By the way, If you just fun make registration at Free SportsBook of Intertops ( http://www.FreeSB.com ), then click at "Rankings" link, and at the bottom of the page click at "Click Here for Last Weeks Ranking Table" link....You will see me on the FIRST PLACE for week 35!
Do you think that Intertops give the prize for first place ($500 CASH) to this guy SHAWN D. (BUFFALO), that is placed second?

I'm sure that Intertops CHEAT HIM TOO !!!

Finally, some words to Mr.A Bit of Code:
Mr.A Bit of Code said:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'm familiar with Intertops/FreeSB....
We haven't hear any Intertops/FreeSB comments here yet but at least one thing Aivan told here seems NOT to be true: he can't be one-man leader for $5,000 FreeSB competition while some guy got above $380,000 several weeks ago in weekly competition! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you prove this?
Because I have some neighbour, who say to allbody that he ... see the Santa Claus this Christmas...but we all still waiting from him any prove!!!

At that moment I'm on vacansion, but next week I'll go back to home and I can upload here "Print Screens"! You still can find "Last Weeks Ranking Table" at Free SportsBook of Intertops ( http://www.FreeSB.com )!

Thank you to all for your help and comments! And God bless you!

 

[abit]

1) Regarding FreeSB Rules (excerpt from their website's Rules page):
"1. .... FreeSB.com reserves the right to close any account, void all bets and refuse the payment of any bonuses or prizes at its discretion."
So no Rules violation have been occured in this case. It seems that people from poor countries performed fraud activity at FreeSB and therefore such countries were put into restriction list by FreeSB management. More fraud is expected when people do not need to pay real money in order to participate in competition so FreeSB management expected to have more fraud attempts then any real money book!

2) I suppose that if you've got e-mail from 'itreqpr@intertops.com' that you've got
Intertops (NOT FreeSB) account password. I've got such letter and my prize money were credited to this (real!) account at Intertops.
So I thing NO any password change have been occured.
If you did not got your prize then I believe that SHAWN D. (BUFFALO) got it because once I've got congratulation letter saying that I become, say, #5 winner while I've been #6 in the table (do not remember numbers exactly).

3) Yes, only Last Week ranking table could be viewed at any time, but obviously any player could save all Ranking tables during whole year.
I have them all (week #2 to week #35). Example:

Top 100 FreeSB Players
Week 2004 33
Rank Player Name Balance
1 RICHARD B. (DENVER) 380092.87
2 CHRISTIAN H. (RIED IM INNKREIS) 45000.00
3 KAI L. (BREMEN) 38800.00
4 CANAN C. (ISTANBUL) 37007.74
5 ERNST H. (FUERTH) 27742.40
6 PETER S. (MUENCHEN) 27270.00
...

I think FreeSB also has access to such tables

And I hope this is enough to prove numbers from my previous post.

 

[Aivan]

Mr.A Bit of Code - familiar with Intertops/FreeSB said:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>FreeSB.com reserves the right to close any account, void all bets and refuse the payment of any bonuses or prizes at its discretion <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you anywhere seen anything like this?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>when people do not need to pay real money <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Before make deposit at new bookmaker, I try to find:" Is this a serious bookmaker? How he carry with his clients? What kind of support he has? Is my money are safe there?"!
You want to give my money to Intertops? Why?
To understand, that when I make 10k or 15k, they will fabricate some reasons and I will recieve nothing?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I suppose that if you've got e-mail from 'itreqpr@intertops.com' that you've got
Intertops (NOT FreeSB) account password. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man (or Woman), read very carefully what I write! From itreqpr@intertops.com I recieve not just a new password, I recieve and a NEW USER NAME !!!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It seems that people from poor countries performed fraud activity <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who the FUCK ARE YOU to said that my country is poor ?

For your information, my country Bulgaria have more that 1300 year history!
For your information, my country Bulgaria give to millions peoples at this World - Alphabet. Cyrillic alphabet is a base of languages like Russian; Czech; Hungarian; Polish and more!
For your information, compatriot of my country Bulgaria devise first computer!
For your information, my country Bulgaria was sole country who at II World War safe all Jewess from Nazi, who was in Bulgaria at that moment. Bulgarian people do not permit to take no one Jew at Concentration Camp!
And there is a more...and more...and more!

I do not care for who you work.
I do not care who paid you.

I win more than that $500 prize on week.
And I think that all we here perfectly understand who bookmaker is POOR!

 

[Slash]

LOL Aivan,

stop that history bullshit. You can't seriously say that Bulgaria isn't poor when compared to the countries of eg. northern Europe.

 

[Slash]

Not that it changes anything - of course Aivan is entitled to his winnings. Anything else is a stiff job.

 

[Bucky]

"Quote"

And if this can happen to me, this can be happen and with YOU !
They can be close your account, fabricate some reason , that you are from MOON, for example...They can steal your money....Think twice, before give them your money....


Dude,

Try talking in their language - say I will send $500 if you give me credit for my contest. I guess your account is closed so they refused to accept a deposit or would they still do that? For some reason they must think you are going to take the money and run from the contest and never send a deposit in???

Bucky

 

[abit]

Aivan,

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Do you anywhere seen anything like this? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
YES I hope anybody didn't seen anything like this! I mean FreeSB

I wish to remind you that FreeSB is NOT a bookmaker - this is just promotional project of Intertops. Let's recall that FreeSB DID NOT make
any money as a result of customers' wagers - it just gives bonuses based on FreeSB rules and customers' luck

No deposits, no withdrawals - just bonuses. Therefore they could not steal YOUR money - they just could give promotional bonus to someone else.

When some company performs promotional action it could decide at it's own discretion which people should be involved in that promotion. This is just bad luck for you that some Bulgarian people (I hope not you) forced FreeSB to put Bulgaria in restricted list due to fraud activity.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I win more than that $500 prize on week. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What does it means? Your FreeSB history (visible to all FreeSB users at this time) shows that you have won FreeSB prize just once...

Anyway if you want to check REAL bookmaker (I mean Intertops) that I would suggest you to open an account with them, make USD 100 deposit (Bulgaria is not too poor country, right?), try to play and then withdraw your money. And then tell us what happened.

P.S. I do not work for FreeSB/Intertops. I'm FreeSB player for more then 3 years and all that I saying about FreeSB/Intertops based on my own FreeSB/Intertops experience.