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Phaedrus,

Shouldn't our country take heed and notice of those countries whose economic systems work better at eliminating certain ills and borrowing something from each?
 

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Most of what you want can be had with proper parenting and self-discipline.
Go to your bookstores and get your books. I prefer capitalism but if you want socialism and your kid ends up on welfare - you pay the taxes. Spend time with you kids. If you want to participate in sports rather than learn a second language it actually may be more beneficial. Eat less whoppers, start working out, and start juicing vegetables and you will vastly reduce your chances of expensive medical ailments. It's the host, not the germ. It's all really very simple. Common sense
 

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kaya, it is a silly fallacy that people have a "right" to health care, to an education, to housing and food. People have a need for these things, some more than others. No one has an automatic claim to a given good or service simply because he needs it -- no matter how many times history spanks the ass of nations that espouse such egalitarian ideals [SIC] the left just keeps on trying. Just like the right's notions that a changed regime ever changes for the better, depsite more than a century of US intervention in other nations' governments with results ranging from laughable to nightmarish.

joint, here in Alabama we have a saying: thank God for Mississippi. They keep us from being consistently at the very bottom of rankings such as income, educational quality, employment data, infrastructure, etc. In that same vein, I bet outandup thanks God for you every time he logs in to this site.


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The entire educational system is sub-standard! Here's an example in Costa Rica (a 3rd world country) you have to know more math, science and second language to get their equivalent of a G.E.D. than you do to graduate from high school in the States. Considering that imagine how far behind we must be compared to countries like England and Japan that highly value education. Yes parental influence is very important but it doesn't change the fact that people pay taxes to send their kids to school that provide a sub-standard of education. Think about it, you pay taxes to the most powerful 1st world nation to send your kids to school while kids in 3rd world Costa Rica are getting a better education in math, science, and languages, don't you feel a little robbed???

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"If you want to participate in sports rather than learn a second language it actually may be more beneficial. Eat less whoppers, start working out, and start juicing vegetables and you will vastly reduce your chances of expensive medical ailments. It's the host, not the germ. It's all really very simple. Common sense"
...borders on incoherent babble.
The two (sports and languages) are unrelated and time should be made for both. Of course physical activity is important, that goes without saying, that's what P.E. class is for. As far as a standardized educational systems, the difference is that while a second language should be required participating in sports should be optional.

BTW, I don't know why you are calling me a socialist, I'm not and have never said to be one.
 

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Phaedrus

Had to laugh when you brought up Mississippi and how it keeps Alabama at 49th. My older brother lives in Mississippi and older sister in Alabama. I visit them not enough but when I do I really like that country and the people.

I would say you bilingual with that accent! kaya man wouldn't say that unless you spoke french.
 

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Phaedrus,

"it is a silly fallacy that people have a "right" to health care"

Shame on you, you Anti-American you!

We hold the rights to be self-evident, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Without health care you may be deprived of your right to life.

It's a matter of being humanitarian any way. If you say that this war was about freeing Iraqis, saving Iraqi children from Saddam, then turn around and say that only those Americans that can afford health care deserve it you are a hypocrit.

You have a right to an education because that's one of the reasons your family pays taxes.
 

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P.E. class to keep you fit. You have to start living outside school at least a few hours a day, don't you. I got more physical activity running home after school to change clothes so I could play with friends than an entire year of Battle Ball, Kick ball and the thirty pushups you had to do. My god (to quote clinton) . Some would consider getting off the couch to grab a bag of chips and a mountain dew exercise. Obesity in kids is rising - go out and fight someone - take a punch or two in the face at an age that you can't break any bones. That will get you in shape more than twenty situps.
 

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Now you promote violence.
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Unreal, you don't value education, art, languages and promote violence.

Do you realize that the founding fathers were thinkers, intellectuals?

You embarrass our founding fathers and our nation.
 

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You're really twisted aren't you. I cut down a cherry tree just so I could be like George Washington. Our founding fathers were not only intellectuals but they fought they frickin asses off and many died in the fight to leave give birth to America. You would be the disgrace in their eyes my friend.
 
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you don't have the right to free medical care and home. you're a marxist.
 
kaya you might not know it but you're a socialist. you believe in cradle to grave care.
 

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joint,

As usual you are wrong, I believe in fighting for a real cause, I also believe in the principals they did.

You have expressed that you don't value education or culture, and you promote senseless violence. You are the disgrace.

outandup,

I'm neither a socialist nor a marxist. I never said anything about a free home. WTF??? If anything on a regular basis you express views much more extremist on the right than mine are on the left, so if you're calling me a socialist should I be calling you a facist or a nazi or something?
You totally missed the whole point on the medical care issue, I'm not saying it should be free to all. I'm saying people that cannot afford it should not be turned away, with that I'm not talking about a cold either, I mean serious situations.
 
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I know...

But does HE? lol

Have you noticed that most of the righties here are from the states?
A trend, perhaps?
 

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I know Radio. I mentioned on one of the threads that conservative attitudes and policies are what most promote the Ugly American image.
 

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