IMPORTANT VIRUS UPDATE - THE SEQUEL

savage1 · Jul 31, 2023

savage1 said:
Again as I posted in #693, the most important thing to consider here is not what the polling data says now but rather the FACT THE

ELECTION IS NOT BEING HELD TODAY MEANING THAT ANY POLLING DATA IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT AND MEANINGLESS

BECAUSE EVENTS CAN AND WILL HAPPEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO ALTER THESE NUMBERS!!

I would compare your continued reliance on these static numbers to draw conclusions using a football analogy:

The Pats win their first pre-season game in an absolute rout and in impressive fashion

Some Pats fan or for that matter any football fan is so impressed with that one game that uses that game to draw conclusions

that Pats are top contenders to win the SB and goes out and makes a significant futures bet at his online offshore for Pats to take it all!!

I rest my case!!

LENBO · Jul 31, 2023

savage1 said:
Again as I posted in #693, the most important thing to consider here is not what the polling data says now but rather the FACT THE

ELECTION IS NOT BEING HELD TODAY MEANING THAT ANY POLLING DATA IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT AND MEANINGLESS

BECAUSE EVENTS CAN AND WILL HAPPEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO ALTER THESE NUMBERS!!

Yet according to you there is no chance Trump wins the R nomination .

If you think the indictments are going to sway primary voters think again and ask yourself why hasn’t it happened already .

LENBO · Jul 31, 2023

Because he’s a RAACIST !

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1685995856711831552

savage1 · Jul 31, 2023

LENBO said:
Yet according to you there is no chance Trump wins the R nomination .

If you think the indictments are going to sway primary voters think again and ask yourself why hasn’t it happened already .

Again your first statement simply doesn't address the points DIRECTLY I made-if you think it does, then so be it!!

In actuality, to play your game, imo what has happened and imo what will happen to Trump in the forthcoming days, weeks

and months will corroborate my contention that he doesn't have a chance of winning the nomination.

Conversely, if I am wrong in my scenario and he emerges innocent of all charges in the court and I knew this now, I would not

say that he has no chance!!

The glaring difference exemplified here is that at the very least I am allowing for at least the slight possibility that I am wrong,

which translates to at least some dynamic thinking on my part, whereas on the contrary, you are taking a completely 100%

static approach meaning that you won't even allow for the possibility that Trump can get more indictments and/or

be convicted and/or even if this happened, he is still a lock to get the nomination and win the Election no matter what!!

Also before I go out and cut the lawn, I have to take exception with your comments about "primary" voters for at least

a couple of reasons:

1) While his popularity has not and probably never will change with Trump diehards like yourself, recent polling suggests

that it has dropped with the overall population and most importantly the the overwhelming majority of American Voting Public

believes that neither he nor Biden should be the nominee.

2) I also believe that at least one of these indictments is going to lead to a conviction, which may very well turn off some

of his even diehard supporters and motivate them to support someone else!

That's it for now; and obviously one of us is going to be right or wrong or perhaps somewhere in between if that is possible.

ps If nothing else this post and my general manner of posting as compared to yours at the very least allows objective

people to decide aside from politics which type of logic and reasoning they prefer!!

Back a bit later as it is time to cut the lawn which usually takes an hour and a half or so to finish!!

read decide whose manner of presenting m

SheriffJoe · Jul 31, 2023

LENBO said:
Yet according to you there is no chance Trump wins the R nomination .

If you think the indictments are going to sway primary voters think again and ask yourself why hasn’t it happened already .

The more fake indictments the DS throws at him, the more popular he becomes.

People are finally waking up and onto their little games.

LENBO · Jul 31, 2023

SheriffJoe said:
The more fake indictments the DS throws at him, the more popular he becomes.

People are finally waking up and onto their little games.

Ask the big money donors that went all in on DeSantis thinking the exact opposite and now looking for another candidate to back how deep the buyers remorse is .

savage1 · Jul 31, 2023

SheriffJoe said:
The more fake indictments the DS throws at him, the more popular he becomes.

People are finally waking up and onto their little games.

Proof, evidence or is it "perhaps, just perhaps" the hopes and projections of a person who has proved himself over and over again as one

who equates his hopes and projections as facts rather than figments of his imagination because of his refusal and/or inability to

deal with/cope with reality!!

savage1 · Jul 31, 2023

savage1 said:
Again your first statement simply doesn't address the points DIRECTLY I made-if you think it does, then so be it!!

In actuality, to play your game, imo what has happened and imo what will happen to Trump in the forthcoming days, weeks

and months will corroborate my contention that he doesn't have a chance of winning the nomination.

Conversely, if I am wrong in my scenario and he emerges innocent of all charges in the court and I knew this now, I would not

say that he has no chance!!

The glaring difference exemplified here is that at the very least I am allowing for at least the slight possibility that I am wrong,

which translates to at least some dynamic thinking on my part, whereas on the contrary, you are taking a completely 100%

static approach meaning that you won't even allow for the possibility that Trump can get more indictments and/or

be convicted and/or even if this happened, he is still a lock to get the nomination and win the Election no matter what!!

Also before I go out and cut the lawn, I have to take exception with your comments about "primary" voters for at least

a couple of reasons:

1) While his popularity has not and probably never will change with Trump diehards like yourself, recent polling suggests

that it has dropped with the overall population and most importantly the the overwhelming majority of American Voting Public

believes that neither he nor Biden should be the nominee.

2) I also believe that at least one of these indictments is going to lead to a conviction, which may very well turn off some

of his even diehard supporters and motivate them to support someone else!

That's it for now; and obviously one of us is going to be right or wrong or perhaps somewhere in between if that is possible.

ps If nothing else this post and my general manner of posting as compared to yours at the very least allows objective

people to decide aside from politics which type of logic and reasoning they prefer!!

Back a bit later as it is time to cut the lawn which usually takes an hour and a half or so to finish!!

read decide whose manner of presenting makes more sense

Correction of last line in the previous post.

LENBO · Jul 31, 2023

? ? ? ?

The big guy was just asked to say hello

This trust fund clown Goldman is trying his hardest to be the new Adam Schiff .

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686073503143903238

savage1 · Jul 31, 2023

Donald Trump could be indicted soon in Georgia. Here’s a look at that investigation

A Georgia prosecutor is expected to seek a grand jury indictment in her investigation into efforts by Trump and his Republican allies to overturn his 2020 election loss.

www.dailynews.com

My sources tell me that this song is soon going to become the dirge of the Trump Campaign!!

youtube the night the lights went out in ga - Search Videos

www.bing.com

savage1 · Jul 31, 2023

Even though I am living up to my vow from January 6, 2021, to never post anything in the Political Section other than of course

in the New IVU Thread, which in reality is a long-running thread that for all intents and purposes is nothing more than a continuation

of the original one, I can't help but comment on it here.

I gave crudebar a number of thumbs up just now over in the new thread about Lebron James's son, who just suffered cardiac

arrest and naturally attributed to the Covid Vaccine including 100% whack demented sheriff joe/HOE, for putting down

this person who was refused entrance to the Twilight Zone because his beliefs were too extreme even for the

admitting personnel to accept!! lol

Again I didn't comment on it in that thread as I promised to not post in threads in this section on than this one.

I had to actually pinch myself to believe that any person has such a low opinion of himself that he would post such self-demeaning

and attention-seeking/delusional with ZERO basis or documentation to support it let alone believe it!!

If sbd is jealous that I cited sheriff HOE only and not him also, well my deepest apologies, and yes at least the same as what

I stated above applies to him also!!

LENBO · Jul 31, 2023

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686105431444168704

business partners saying Joe is the “brand,” the “big guy,” and “the chairman,” the two whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian prosecutor, and Hunter’s statements that he’s giving his dad half his income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved. Good call guys. ?

LENBO · Jul 31, 2023

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686171332835151873

SheriffJoe · Jul 31, 2023

President Trump has already indirectly and perhaps inadvertently (or perhaps not) created a separate third party, just like Andrew Jackson did.

It's called MAGA, which practically speaking amounts to, oh.. about a solid 38-43% of the country right now. These are hardcore unflappable MAGA Trump supporters who will NEVER abandon him for ANY reason.

No matter what the GOP RINOs have up their sleeve.

No matter what the Deep State throws at him.

More fake indictments? No problemo! Bring it on! His popularity will only get bigger!

IF IF IF IF - emphasis on IF - the GOP were stupid enough to kick him off the ballot for any reason, they would be slicing their own throat. Not only would Trump WIN an election decisively WITH another 'D' and 'R' on the ballot, it would end the Republican party as we know it.

Yes, the MAGA brand has grown to be that powerful and popular.

So there goes another pipedream I've been reading from the left recently - that the GOP could somehow be manipulated into dropping him because of his indictments...or whatever sleazy BS.

Reality check: Nobody is abandoning Trump.

Nobody and Never!

Not only does President Trump OWN the Republican Party, he alone politically owns the country right now.

:popcorn: