If you post a line and a game that you are wagering then...

raiders72001 · Oct 5, 2004

Wil- The whole problem is that I made actual plays at real sportsbooks. I then posted the plays in the RR shortly after I made the plays. For some reason you question my plays yet you said nothing to anyone else.

I sure hope you don't think that all sportsbooks have the same lines. The reason guys use line services and have many books is to get the best line. The only way you can win is by doing this. No one can beat this game using one book.

Why am I the only one you questioned? My plays were real plays. I showed you history logs of the plays from sportsbooks. Go question the guys that post false plays and we'll have no problem.

wilheim · Oct 5, 2004

Still waitng for the lie.

raiders72001 · Oct 5, 2004

Wil- You have guys like Kodiak that are counting email plays as part of his record. You let a guy count email plays yet you question plays that I actually make with a book and then post at the RX before the game.

Why don't you say something to Kodiak about his email plays that no one sees until after the game. He says he was 14-1 :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

raiders72001 · Oct 5, 2004

General- Please chime in on this too. Is it proper for guys to post email plays :biglaugh:

wilheim · Oct 5, 2004

Thats what I thought. Listen this is the rubber Room pretty much anything goes. A poster wished cancer on me not long ago. I simply said the lines you posted looked like a wish list which was my opinion. I did not edit anything nor was I even moderating - just posting in a thread that caught my eye. I did the same thing with Frog and if I recall you agreed with me. I have nothing against you personally no matter how much you feel otherwise. Why would I have voted to let you be reinstated to the Rubber Room recently? For all I care you could post anywhere. I have always voted to let you back and was the one who started the vote last time. Bottom line I figured you of all people should know better about posting lines that are at best "not readily" available. I belive when posting plays it is always best to be humble and use lines that everyone even the lowiest of newbies can axcess. This was the principal problem I had with Frog and natrually he thought the same thing you do "wil is picking on me, he doesn't like me etc." The truth is I hold veteran gamblers to a higher standard of behavior when it comes to sharing their opinion. Cappers like Dogball, Drunkguy, Old Man Ted are examples of what I mean. They understand it is not about themselves but it is about helping others win some money using their plays. Again I ask you (for an example) what would a newbie do with the Bears plus 11 at 12:19PM on Sunday? Was it a play at plus 10 or 9.5? I think you know what I mean, it is only natural to want to have a winning record and in your mind I believe the lines you used were Ok but based on that thinking all you are doing is looking to give yourself the best chance to come up winner. If all you want to do is type your bets to see how well they turn out than fine, but if you are trying to help as I believe your TFZ does, than lose the ego and post a line EVERYBODY can find. This was not personal in fact it was really a coincidence I noticed the thread when I did. Maybe I'm wrong but that is really how I feel about posting plays, make it as easy as possible to follow by everyone.

wil.

raiders72001 · Oct 5, 2004

Wil- Very good points. What happened on Sunday is it was a day that I was taking many dogs which as you know means it's a day when you are making many plays late. Line movements were very unusual Sunday. In my haste of line wathcing I just posted quickly what I had written down next to me as games I had just played.

wilheim · Oct 5, 2004

What happened on Sunday is it was a day that I was taking many dogs which as you know means it's a day when you are making many plays late.

I can buy that, frankly I don't think you meant to purposely post "stale" lines (I never did use that term) but figured you would know what I meant. Anyway it's a done deal. As far as Kodiak goes there is not much I can do about EMail plays, remember this is the Rubber Room. I do not moderate in the sports forums, I have my hands full with other duties. I will make a post at times in the different forums but don't read all the threads like I do Offshore and almost all here in the RR.

Take care, wil.