-110 vig = 52.3% books winnings = 47.7% bettors losingssportsbet said:
That's the formula for the average bettor. If you factor in larger takes for better informed bettors you have to subtract percentages from the books winnings.
If a book thinks that the total for a game will be 73 but 60% of the public will bet 78 they will put the line higher than 73 and will make a hell of a lot more than their 52.3%.
QL : I disagree, a little. First the figure is 52.38 %, so 52.4 % is better rounding, but that's minor. The sharps bet more than squares, so the line will reach equillibreum ( sp ? ) in theory.quantumleap said:
I don't think it's winning % that does most gamblers in, it's money management, overbetting, and chasing, same with Blackjack.
There are guys that can pick 56% and lose via money management.
Say start with $1,000 BR, bet 10 % ( way high ). He gets lucky runs it up to $5,500 quick. Bets $500 a game on 10 games over a weekend, goes 2-8, it happens, so he's got $2100 left, split it over 2 games, goes 0-2, DUDE IS BROKE NOW ! He quintupled the original stake, but overbet !, and lost.
That is how I think the books win ! They prey upon the human emotion of greed. 56% ground out over time is awesome potential.
If this 56% capper with $1,000 flat bet 2% of his bankroll on each bet ( a problem exists with bets going off at same time), say he got 3 bets a day and each was decided before next was made. He starts with a $20 bet. He has 1,095 bets a year. He will be very, very rich before too long. Incredibly rich in 5 years.
This is inspired by Fezzik, the priciples are his, so as I give proper credit.Fezzik wrote about hitting 60%, 56 % is high enough for this to work with a dime start.
Maybe Fezz or somebody will do the math for me, it's over my capabilities to calculate it, but I know it's true.
Math is good, but we are all not actuaries. Psychology of the game can be nearly as important, maybe more so in the right circumstances. Other factors also.
Networking helps, Get the Math Guy with the Headshrinker, and some others, blend it together, you may bet 57% out of it. Share it with too many, lines move. Many of the best don't post there stuff for free. Apply it to props, you can't even think about giving it out.
Anybody think Ace-Ace bets things he doesn't post on the RX ? Gee maybe he finds a prop on something, but can't give it to 1,000 people.
I had a small point with Ace, he advised flat-betting, but didn't really do it, then came out with $12,000 bet. I love this guy, but you can't bet from $200 to $12,000, and advocate flat Bets.
To: ACE-ACE: I LOVE YOU MAN, YOU USUALLY BET ABOUT 3-4 THOUSANDS ON YOUR BETS, YOU SAY BET SAMES, YOU'SE BET DIFFERENTS YOUSELF, WHY DAT ? IT START WITH $2500 ON THIS, BUT THEN $800 ON DAT, FOR FUN !
NOW YOU GO WILD ON ME ! YOU AIN'T NO FLAT-BETTAH !
11 to 10 is difficult for sure, key is being patient and look for errors. Ken White is making tough numbers in college hoops, still beatable but little tougher than last year.
Early bird gets the worm in this computer age. I have been enjoy betting bowl quarters on the fly, Canes won all 4 of them last night. I wish Little Leauge was year round, am looking forward to West Coast Golf swing.
Early bird gets the worm in this computer age. I have been enjoy betting bowl quarters on the fly, Canes won all 4 of them last night. I wish Little Leauge was year round, am looking forward to West Coast Golf swing.
WHAT I BET I POST.....I DO NOT BET ANYTHING ELES.....THE ONLY GAME I BET A LOT MORE MONEY ON WAS UCONN.....(MORE THAN I POSTED)....THAT BETWEEN ME AND MY WALLET.....DougJ said:
I BET TWO WAYS .....I HAVE ALWAY BET TWO WAYS...
1. BETS UNDER $1300....FOR FUN...OR ACTION
2. BETS OVER $2000.....FOR INVESTMENTS
I HAVE NOT TOLD A SOUL TO BET THE SAME ON ALL GAME....THAT DUMB!!
THE $12,000 PLUS BET WAS A ONCE IN A LIFE TIME BET FOR ME....AND YES I COULD NOT LOSE(95%)...(5%ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN).....I COULD NOT TELL WHAT IT WAS,,,,IT COULD HURT SOMEONE.....BUT 5-6 PLAYERS HERE WERE E-MAIL SOME NEWS ON IT.....
IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW ME....I HAVE BET ALL FLAT BETS UP TO WEEK 8 OR 9...
THAN THE LINE GET TIGHTER....THAN I LOOK FOR VALUE.....YES TEASER HAVE VALUE AT TIMES.....
DOUG.....I HOPE YOU AND YOUR LOVE ONE HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR.....
ACE
The Math
- Start with $1000
- 3 bets @ 2% of the day's starting balance per day
- 10% vig
(e.g. on first day place three bets, each one lay $22 to win $20)
The results after 5 years (1825 days, 5475 bets) are:
The average balance will be $1,000 with 53.381% win rate.
The average balance will be $100,000 with 54.39% win rate.
The average balance will be $1,000,000 with 55.40% win rate.
The average balance will be $1,000,000,000 with 58.42% win rate.
If anyone is interested in seeing the math let me know.:digit:
Dom
P.S.
A 50% win rate will leave you with less than $250, effectivly "broke" (unable to bet 2% of your money and make a minimum $5 bet) after 462 days.
I did the math, using your initial conditions:DougJ said:
- Start with $1000
- 3 bets @ 2% of the day's starting balance per day
- 10% vig
(e.g. on first day place three bets, each one lay $22 to win $20)
The results after 5 years (1825 days, 5475 bets) are:
The average balance will be $1,000 with 53.381% win rate.
The average balance will be $100,000 with 54.39% win rate.
The average balance will be $1,000,000 with 55.40% win rate.
The average balance will be $1,000,000,000 with 58.42% win rate.
If anyone is interested in seeing the math let me know.:digit:
Dom
P.S.
A 50% win rate will leave you with less than $250, effectivly "broke" (unable to bet 2% of your money and make a minimum $5 bet) after 462 days.
