If the Bills the playoffs, are they the most overrated team of all-time?

[SheriffJoe]

Yeah I'm sure the BLM sports media is why the NFL GM's selected white Burrow over white Allen

Woke BLM media like ESPN have it out for Allen because of some social media posts he made back in high school.

The anti-Allen bias is unfortunate but real - nothing to do with his performance or metrics.

 

[Avocado33]

Woke BLM media like ESPN have it out for Allen because of some social media posts he made back in high school.

The anti-Allen bias is unfortunate but real - nothing to do with his performance or metrics.

ESPN gushes over Allen just like the other guys

Personally I think they prop all the QBs up too much

What posts did he make? Had no idea about that

 

[Avocado33]

I would argue the same thing happened in Baltimore. Mahomes played ONE great quarter, which will not get it done on an average team, especially in the playoffs.

You spent the entire season shitting on the Chiefs though. You had the Browns, Ravens, and Bills pegged ahead of them. You said they were "done". LOL.

Also Chiefs were playing conservative for half of the game. Josh Allen has won a playoff game scoring just 17 points as well. You don't have to try and sling the ball around the place. How you approach the game is dictated by the situation.

Hell Burrow put the Bills away in the 1st quarter last year. Think he had more completions that quarter than Bills had yards. He chose to be more conservative down the stretch, which is the RIGHT thing to do.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Ya know what? The Chiefs offense really does suck. Mahomes said it himself throughout the season, and I agree. They wouldn't have made the playoffs without that D.

But for you, playing conservative makes Mahomes this "amazing best clutch playoff performer ever". This is your definition of greatness? Not scoring a single point for half the game??? Maybe by Bungels standards. LMAO

Yeah, they suck.

Do that on an average team and your leads evaporate. And then, Mahomes would have to open it up, take risks and play - oh right, what do you call it? - "hero ball".

Got a lead in the 4th? RUN THE BALL, kill the clock! Not rocket science, whether it's Mahomes or Allen handing it off over and over. No OC is going to allow their QB to force it under those circumstances. Remember, only 4 INTs total in Allen's playoff career. So contrary to Avo myths, Allen isn't losing them games.

I've said it before, and granted it's a really extreme example, but Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. That's what a top-ranked D can do.

So if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, it won't be because of Mahomes. Way, way, way overrated in these playoffs. Tough to be a "clutch performer" when your D is so good you don't even need the two minute drill.

 

[Knightrofins]

I never said a sure thing, just better than the end result - missed chip shot which ended the Bills season.

Had the same happened at the other end (KC missed FG, which rarely happens) nobody here would be criticizing Mahomes, they'd be blaming the kicker.

Bills beat the Chiefs regularly during the season. Last playoff encounters have been nail biters. So, going into the game, basically handicap the two QBs as 'even' which is how it played out more or less (neither QB cost them the game). The Chiefs are moving on for other reasons not named Mahomes.

I would argue the same thing happened in Baltimore. Mahomes played ONE great quarter, which will not get it done on an average team, especially in the playoffs.

Yes the bills won on KC this year.

that’s the game where the chiefs scored but Toney was lined up offsides.

usually they don’t call that play but “the script” in which you frequently talk about had the bills winning that day

 

[Avocado33]

Got a lead in the 4th? RUN THE BALL, kill the clock! Not rocket science, whether it's Mahomes or Allen handing it off over and over. No OC is going to allow their QB to force it under those circumstances. Remember, only 4 INTs total in Allen's playoff career. So contrary to Avo myths, Allen isn't losing them games.

Dude. The Bills were running the ball all game long. They were AFRAID of what Mahomes would do with it. They played scared/not to lose, instead of trying to win

Except for the end when Allen forced it a bit to the end zone for no reason.

You are basically supporting Mahomes and Burrow with this post lol

 

[SheriffJoe]

Ah, so when the Bills play smart, they're "playing not to lose"...but when Mahomes plays smart, he's Mister "Super Clutch Playoff Gamer - best of all time!" LOL

You're not biased at all..nooooooo..

Both teams played conservative in that game. Mahomes was 1/5 on 3rd downs.

Brady calls a much different and more traditional game than previous OCs (Daboll/Dorsey), something I told you at the time you had the Dolphins winning the division.

 

[Avocado33]

Ah, so when the Bills play smart, they're "playing not to lose"...but when Mahomes plays smart, he's Mister "Super Clutch Playoff Gamer - best of all time!" LOL

You're not biased at all..nooooooo..

Both teams played conservative in that game. Mahomes was 1/5 on 3rd downs.

Brady calls a much different and more traditional game than previous OCs (Daboll/Dorsey), something I told you at the time you had the Dolphins winning the division.

Both played conservative?

The Bills averaged 4.7 yards per play, Chiefs 7.7

Chiefs only faced 5 first downs because they were efficient on the other downs

It’s different to play conservative when you have a two score lead versus in a close game. Bills spent the whole game trying to not give Mahomes the ball

Chiefs played conservative against Ravens when they had the lead. They weren’t conservative against the Bills.

 

[Avocado33]

It’s all starting to make sense now


Allen is probably a conservative

Chiefs guys are libs who support the vaccine

Burrow is pro gun control


Yeah I think SJ’s bias finally figured out lol

 

[SheriffJoe]

Both played conservative?

The Bills averaged 4.7 yards per play, Chiefs 7.7

Chiefs only faced 5 first downs because they were efficienplays wet on the other downs

It’s different to play conservative when you have a two score lead versus in a close game. Bills spent the whole game trying to not give Mahomes the ball

Chiefs played conservative against Ravens when they had the lead. They weren’t conservative against the Bills.

Mahomes only threw the ball 23 times against the Bills. "Aggressive" LOL

The difference was on the ground....29 yards (Pacheco), 28 yards (Edwards-Helaire) and 24 yards (Mahomes) - reflected in yards per play.

Cute narratives.

Because for the 1717th time, and as everyone has been telling you, the Bills practically had their D practice squad on the field for this game...which means the level of difficulty for Mahomes vs Allen was very different.

And yet, it still wouldn't have mattered had Diggs caught that 70 yard Superman laser.

Chiefs offense still stinks, which they once again showcased against the Ravens - a paltry 17 pts.

 

[raiders72]

The Chiefs had 4 games where they scored 0 points in the 2nd half. Never happened to Buf.

 

[SheriffJoe]

The Chiefs had 4 games where they scored 0 points in the 2nd half. Never happened to Buf.

The Chiefs D has been carrying that team all year. Avg. at best in most offensive categories.

Doubtful they would have made it past Buffalo with Milano and Benard stuffing the run and preventing those big plays.

The Bills were Joe Burrow'ed on defense this season.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Most Total TDs in NFL History through a QB’s first 10 Playoff Games:

1st - Patrick Mahomes (30)
2nd - Josh Allen (27)

Most Total YDs in NFL History through a QB’s first 10 Playoff Games:

1st - Patrick Mahomes (3,410)
2nd - Josh Allen (3,302)

Where's JoeyB?

"Surveys"

 

[Avocado33]

Mahomes only threw the ball 23 times against the Bills. "Aggressive" LOL

Well they only ran 47 plays since they were moving the ball so fast

Literally couldn’t be stopped

 

[Avocado33]

We got it over 1k posts

Good work @SheriffJoe @REDEYE @raiders72

Respect the debate

 

[REDEYE]

AV is always a good poster to go toe to toe with.

 

[Avocado33]

Bills come due: White, Poyer, Morse among cuts

The Bills are releasing two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Tre'Davious White, 2021 All-Pro safety Jordan Poyer and starting center Mitch Morse among several moves to get under the salary cap.

www.espn.com

 

[slapshot]

MVP Mitch to the rescue

 

[raiders72]

Dude. The Bills were running the ball all game long. They were AFRAID of what Mahomes would do with it. They played scared/not to lose, instead of trying to win

Except for the end when Allen forced it a bit to the end zone for no reason.

You are basically supporting Mahomes and Burrow with this post lol

Allen threw long but his receivers dropped the ball. KC played their safeties deep all game. It had 0 to do with Mahomes. Allen never plays it safe.

 

[jamesstephen]

If the Buffalo Bills make the playoffs this season, it does not necessarily make them the most overrated team of all-time. While they have underachieved in the playoffs relative to their talent and hype, calling them the most overrated ever is premature. That is an extreme label that requires looking at their full body of work over multiple seasons and postseasons. The Bills are a good but flawed team that has disappointed in recent years, but other teams could also be considered overrated based on lack of championship success. Their legacy is still being written, so more perspective is needed before making that determination. A deep playoff run or Super Bowl win would invalidate the overrated label.