If the Bills the playoffs, are they the most overrated team of all-time?

[Serbone]

Belicheat is worthless now, the days of him stealing opponent's critical information are over.

It is downplayed, hidden, because it hurts the NFL, ESPN, Fox, CBS, ABC... but it was widepread for over a decade, starting in the early 2000's.

Bugs in lockerooms and opposing team hotel conference rooms, and secretly filming pre game workouts (walk thrus) the day before the games.

He wants his 15 games for the record, cannot depend on him past that. He will be happy to win 7 one year, 8 the next, and get paid while he becomes the GOAT head coach.

 

[REDEYE]

So why not just say "yep i was wrong" not a big deal it happens. Him winning or not winning a super bowl doesn't matter---obviously its possible.

That is what I don't understand. I was wrong on Lamar also when he came out of college.

I don't think he wins this game this week, so I'll stick with my original opinion. My future hedges with the Ravens only go so far at the AFC Championship

 

[Serbone]

I always thought Lamar did not have what it takes to win in the playoffs, but he seems to have matured on the field and does not panic and run all the time and also his accuracy has improved with that stability.

I think the other 21 starters on Balty are all as good or better than Kansas City and if gun-to-my-head right now I lean to the Ravens -3.5 even though Mahomes is the better QB.

Lets see how the dinged KC defenders are later in the week and I think Mahomes is a bit banged up, too.

 

[crudebar]

I don't think he wins this game this week, so I'll stick with my original opinion. My future hedges with the Ravens only go so far at the AFC Championship

Okay. But this weekend results don't matter. It's obviously possible. Even if he never wins one.

 

[ziggym97]

Which Team Is More Cursed Bills Or Vikings? Both Teams Are 0-4 In SB's And Went To Their SB's In A Short Span Of Years Bills 4 Years In A Row Vikings 4 Times Within 8 Years. Vikings Last Went To The SB 47 Years Ago Bills Last Went 29 Years Ago. They Both Have Had Great Players And Great Teams And A Lot Of Chances To Get Back To The SB But Have Failed.

 

[crudebar]

Which Team Is More Cursed Bills Or Vikings? Both Teams Are 0-4 In SB's And Went To Their SB's In A Short Span Of Years Bills 4 Years In A Row Vikings 4 Times Within 8 Years. Vikings Last Went To The SB 47 Years Ago Bills Last Went 29 Years Ago. They Both Have Had Great Players And Great Teams And A Lot Of Chances To Get Back To The SB But Have Failed.

Minny should have went with Favre but for some reason the refs thought it was funny when Favre would take shots to head and knees.

Also AP fumbling consistently that season(and that game) and bad OT rules. Last season u could just win the game by winning toss and kicking a fg.

 

[Avocado33]

Okay. But this weekend results don't matter. It's obviously possible. Even if he never wins one.

Of course they do

A handful of plays decide if it’s physically possibly or not

 

[Avocado33]

You wouldn't give Allen an L if he passed for 180 and Mahomes 400 and Bills won a back and forth nail bitter 35-31. You would celebrate Allen's victory over Mahomes.

Not even that

If you simply witched Mahomes and Allen' , Mahomes would've been labeled a choke artist and raiders/Joe would've probably creamed themselves over Allen's stat line

 

[raiders72]

Not even that

If you simply witched Mahomes and Allen' , Mahomes would've been labeled a choke artist and raiders/Joe would've probably creamed themselves over Allen's stat line

You made your mind up before the game started that Mahomes was great and Allen sucks. The last thing Mahomes did is punt with 8 mins to go in the game.

 

[Avocado33]

You made your mind up before the game started that Mahomes was great and Allen sucks. The last thing Mahomes did is punt with 8 mins to go in the game.

Nope, not even close

I said Allen played well, but Mahomes was better than him

Also, how many times did the Chiefs punt before that punt? Let me know

 

[raiders72]

Nope, not even close

I said Allen played well, but Mahomes was better than him

Also, how many times did the Chiefs punt before that punt? Let me know

Chiefs didn't score the last 14 minutes of the game.

In their Career
Mahomes 4 4QC and 5 GWD
Allen 13 4QC and 19 GWD

Mahomes has gotten worse while Allen keeps getting better.

 

[Avocado33]

Chiefs didn't score the last 14 minutes of the game.

In their Career
Mahomes 4 4QC and 5 GWD
Allen 13 4QC and 19 GWD

Mahomes has gotten worse while Allen keeps getting better.

Just laugahble

"Mahomes has gotten worse"

Dude he has one of the worst receiving corps in the league, all-time level of drops this season

Allen peaked in 2020 if you're being honest about it

Also so funny how you say "you can't look at stats" when they don't favor you, but then you search day and night for meaningless, absurd stats

Mahomes is better than Allen, as are a couple of other QB's IMO

 

[raiders72]

Just laugahble

"Mahomes has gotten worse"

Dude he has one of the worst receiving corps in the league, all-time level of drops this season

Allen peaked in 2020 if you're being honest about it

Also so funny how you say "you can't look at stats" when they don't favor you, but then you search day and night for meaningless, absurd stats

Mahomes is better than Allen, as are a couple of other QB's IMO

Mahomes doesn't make those Wow plays that much anymore. His first two years were must watch. Now it's Allen that is must watch. I really don't care about stats but if you look at AV (Value), Allen has been better the last three years and best in the league 2 of those years.

It really doesn't matter, they are the two best in the league, then the rest. We can argue who is better all day. But Tua should still be a backup.

 

[Avocado33]

Mahomes doesn't make those Wow plays anymore. His first two years were must watch. Now it's Allen that is must watch. I really don't care about stats but if you look at AV (Value), Allen has been better the last three years and best in the league 2 of those years.

It really doesn't matter, they are the two best in the league, then the rest. We can argue who is better all day. But Tua should still be a backup.

lol you said Burrow was better than both of them like 3 months ago

 

[raiders72]

lol you said Burrow was better than both of them like 3 months ago

You can't just make up your mind and never change it as you are doing. Things change as the season goes on. Allen ran the table to get in the playoffs with no help. He's been sensational.

 

[crudebar]

Yes Mahomes and the Chiefs won super bowl last year going to AFC title game this year---but the league and the fans can't stop talking about how sensational Josh Allen is and to the extraordinary of losing in the 2nd round again at home as the favorite.

Lol at fan boys....

 

[raiders72]

Yes Mahomes and the Chiefs won super bowl last year going to AFC title game this year---but the league and the fans can't stop talking about how sensational Josh Allen is and to the extraordinary of losing in the 2nd round again at home as the favorite.

Lol at fan boys....

I said Allen and Mahomes are the two best in the game. No idea what you Mahomes fans are talking about. Allen didn't have Kelce and he didn't have a defense. He had Diggs who was awful down the stretch and a hurt defense.

 

[crudebar]

I said Allen and Mahomes are the two best in the game. No idea what you Mahomes fans are talking about. Allen didn't have Kelce and he didn't have a defense.

Based on what?

Ur dude might win all the super bowls but my dude looks super totes kewl losing!

So like basically equal man!!!!

 

[crudebar]

Josh Allen is like totally rad. He like loses as the favorite at home but the fan boys like always make it as if he was a 20 point dog that almost won single handily. It's so super dope man!

 

[raiders72]

Based on what?

Ur dude might win all the super bowls but my dude looks super totes kewl losing!

So like basically equal man!!!!

Marino won no Super Bowls and may have been the best in the game. Mahomes has 2 Super Bowl wins, so does Eli Manning.