If the Bills the playoffs, are they the most overrated team of all-time?

[raiders72]

Better qb Brady or Rodgers/Favre?

The latter made throws and plays the former couldnt even dream of--but one won 7 super bowls.

At least the latter made 3 super bowls unlike Allen(but he still has time)

So who was better?

Are they better than Marino? And I’m talking on game,yesterday

 

[raiders72]

Lol and yet they were favored to win. Weird how that works

Mahomes played a level above Allen in this game.

Mahomes has a bag of dicks to throw to -- even Kelce is washed up at this point. Legitimately one of the worst receiving groups in the league

Chiefs also a bad run defense, yet you act like running on them is difficult

All you said all year was how good the Bills were and that they could be best team in the conference. Funny how they suck and it's just a one man show now.

The fake punt was inconsequential. In fact, they ended up in better position ironically because KC gave them the ball back through the end zone. Had they putnted it would've been KC ball

No one is saying Allen choked or played bad. But the excuses for this team - and for him - are getting very old

I’m talking Buffalo’s game. Not pregame. There was no D, no rushing second half, receiver drops. Heroic effort by Allen

 

[Avocado33]

I’m talking Buffalo’s game. Not pregame. There was no D, no rushing second half, receiver drops. Heroic effort by Allen

Heroic is overstating Allen's effort by quite a bit lol

Come on now

 

[raiders72]

Listen to PFF podcast. I listened to make sure I wasn’t wrong

 

[raiders72]

Heroic is overstating Allen's effort by quite a bit lol

Come on now

What could he have done better? He’s the best in the NFL and showed it.

 

[crudebar]

I’m talking Buffalo’s game. Not pregame. There was no D, no rushing second half, receiver drops. Heroic effort by Allen

Favre against saints in the NFC Champ game was heroic. Not Allen last night.

 

[crudebar]

What could he have done better? He’s the best in the NFL and showed it.

Actually won the game for starters. He had the ball last after all to do just this...

 

[crudebar]

Okay I am out on this.

Allen didn't play bad(by any measure) but he certainly didn't play next level/heroic.He had chances to win his team the game and came up short.

 

[raiders72]

Actually won the game for starters. He had the ball last after all to do just this...

He didn’t. Buf D didn’t give it back to him

 

[raiders72]

KC punted up 27-24

 

[Avocado33]

Okay I am out on this.

Allen didn't play bad(by any measure) but he certainly didn't play next level/heroic.He had chances to win his team the game and came up short.

Bingo

 

[Avocado33]

What could he have done better?

Well he missed a few throws he should've made. Got away with some turnover-worthy plays, though again didn't hurt them

Last set of downs he could've made better decisions on both 2nd and 3rd. Had guys open in the middle of the field but took shots to the end zone instead.

Frankly the more you break it down, Allen was pretty crappy on that last drive altogether. He could have done way better

 

[crudebar]

He didn’t. Buf D didn’t give it back to him

Yes. Technically ur correct. I think everyone knew game was over as soon as Bass missed the kick.

 

[raiders72]

It’s a team game. Allen didn’t come up short. Mahomes didn’t win game. Punted up 27-24

 

[raiders72]

No one makes those runs including Lamar

 

[Avocado33]

It’s a team game. Allen didn’t come up short. Mahomes didn’t win game. Punted up 27-24

The Bills as a whole came up short, yet again

You said Bills were better than KC all year long and that they were 2 in your power ratings behind SF

Can't have it both ways

 

[raiders72]

Allen put them in FG range with key 3rd and 4th downs

 

[Avocado33]

No one makes those runs including Lamar

Lamar can make more explosive runs in general though. And what runs do you mean?

Lamar had like 92 on the ground this weekend against a better rushing defense by the way. Lamar is a better runner than Allen

But also -- why do you have to have running back #'s to be a great QB? The greatest QB's ever are not that.

Maybe Allen can make the Pro Bowl as a running back

 

[raiders72]

The Bills as a whole came up short, yet again

You said Bills were better than KC all year long and that they were 2 in your power ratings behind SF

Can't have it both ways

That was before injuries before and during game

 

[Avocado33]

Allen put them in FG range with key 3rd and 4th downs

Oh okay on that last drive:

Allen fumbles the ball on third down. Then throws a ball 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage and Shakir runs for a wide open first down to convert on 4th down

If Mahomes did that exact same thing, you would say "Mahomes did nothing and almost cost his team the game"