did not say OWN game....LOL good play on words fishy LOOK below and I told you already when I see it happen again where I think it ill post what coach I think has money on games either HIS or others
im am sure a SHITLOAD of coaches and Players and REFS bet spreadlines/ ML...you can totally see it at times with calls and what not IMO
im am sure a SHITLOAD of coaches and Players and REFS bet spreadlines/ ML...you can totally see it at times with calls and what not IMO
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I don't buy it at all. There is no way an NFL coach that makes millions gives a damn about how gamblers do. College? Maybe in a few isolated instances, but I bet that's rare. I think the main problem is that the coaches, although some of the most brilliant x's and o's people, are just plain stupid when it comes to strategy. I had Iowa on Sat +14, so I was pleased when Lloyd Carr kicks the extra point to go up 20 with 8 minutes left. He's a moron for doing so, since Iowa isn't going to score two touchdowns and two field goals to tie, but I don't think it had anything to do with the pointspread. Bob Stoops kicks the extra point to go up 13-0 with 5 minutes left in the title game a few years ago. These same morons go for two in the first and second quarter, because they don't know any better. But I just don't buy that it has anything to do with the gambling.
I think the refs had money on Fla St last year against Florida. But that's the only game that I've seen that I believe was fixed. I used to umpire Div 1 baseball, and although there isn't much gambling on that sport, I know the kind of people that officiate games, and I was one of those people. Many of the umpires I worked with also officiate football. They take great pride in their work, and every mistake bothers them. There is corruption, I'm sure, but I believe it is very, very isolated.
Once again there is holding on EVERY play in the NFL. These refs control the totals every game! In baseball there are certain umps that call over games on a regular basis. In football how many times do you see a team starting a drive strong just to be backed up on a holding play on consecutive drives. This happens all the time! These refs can keep a game under the total easy IMO.:finger: . Now coach's that kick a FG with under a minute left up by 7 and the other team has no time outs should be investigated. Especially if its a 48 yarder which means if he misses the other team has the ball on the 38 compared to running on 4th down or a pooch punt at the very least. There are so many obvious choices done on the field that makes me wonder?? Please bring back the XFL at least it was fun watching those fixed games.
Good post Illini...I agree....
In College Football its a slightly different story though...I have seen too many funny decisions with the game out of reach not to think some of these college coaches try to cover late for their backers... and then you have coach's who love running up the score late..... a few like Mason, Spurrier, Bowden (use to),Paterno (use to) Holtz (@ND), going further back Barry Switzer...If Switzer doesn't look like a coach who would meet with his boosters o Wed to talk spread i dont know who would LOL...
I can envision Barry Switzer back at OU saying " How many you need this week"...and the booster saying 'Can you give us 66 Barry' and handing him an envolope with 66 100 Dollar bills in it...and they both just chuckle...
Final Score
OU 72
Kansas 6
Billy Sims runs for 275 yards:biglaugh:
In College Football its a slightly different story though...I have seen too many funny decisions with the game out of reach not to think some of these college coaches try to cover late for their backers... and then you have coach's who love running up the score late..... a few like Mason, Spurrier, Bowden (use to),Paterno (use to) Holtz (@ND), going further back Barry Switzer...If Switzer doesn't look like a coach who would meet with his boosters o Wed to talk spread i dont know who would LOL...
I can envision Barry Switzer back at OU saying " How many you need this week"...and the booster saying 'Can you give us 66 Barry' and handing him an envolope with 66 100 Dollar bills in it...and they both just chuckle...
Final Score
OU 72
Kansas 6
Billy Sims runs for 275 yards:biglaugh:
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Illinios- Since Dante is making such strong allegations against NFL coaches in a public forum, I would like for him to share with us all a couple of head coaches he thinks might be more apt to wager on their own games and make decisions as to wheteher to cover the spread or not.
Since he stated there were a SHITLOAD of COACHES, refs, and players that did this............he should be able to name a couple coaches at the very least that in his mind he thinks does this.
Since he stated there were a SHITLOAD of COACHES, refs, and players that did this............he should be able to name a couple coaches at the very least that in his mind he thinks does this.
ill tell you for the last time WHEN IMO I see this happen I will post about it....I have no examples right now... ARE you happy ? 
When watching that game, and starting this thread, i don't necessarily think the coaches are fixing the games, i think they are aware of the pointspreads and i simply wondered why would a coach punt on 4th down with 3 minutes to go down 10 with 2 timoeouts.....
That was the question.....There is no reason to worry about losing by 17 rather than 10, unless you are worrying about that sort of thing....this isnt the ncaa where u are ranked, and a bad loss can hurt worse, and there is no feasible tie breaker that will come into effect from that extra 7 points.....
That was the question.....There is no reason to worry about losing by 17 rather than 10, unless you are worrying about that sort of thing....this isnt the ncaa where u are ranked, and a bad loss can hurt worse, and there is no feasible tie breaker that will come into effect from that extra 7 points.....
If people here think that a % of coach's, players, refs, bet, you are 100% correct. There is corruption in EVERY organization in this country! Hell last may I was at my granddaughters birthday party went downstairs and my son-in-laws best friend who was off to his columbine workout for NFL scouts , was on the computer betting baseball through Wager Street. He says that even if he was picked by the NFL he'd still bet. He was picked up and is still wagering,lol. And NO I won't name names.
I agree Illini. I have to think that officials want to get ahead just like any business and to do so they must make good calls. However, just like any other business there are those who cheat and also those who use politics to get ahead. I would think that cheating and politics happen a lot more in regular business since it is not so out in the open.Illini said:
