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Nobody said it isn't the most important position, just fans place too much credit/blame on QB performance because it is easy.

What are you even trying to say? That Kirk Cousins isn't Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning? Outliers much?

Yeah true, never thought of that before. That is definitely true.



And Rodgers/Manning aren't "good QB's" they're generational talents that are all-time greats.

I don't think any other player in the NFL should win an MVP other than the QB. There's no position on the field that comes close to being as important to the team.
 

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It can be by far the most important position and fans can still place too much blame/credit on QB performance because it is easy.

I mean if you watched last nights game and your first thought was "Man, Kirk Cousins is killing the Vikings. They should've kept Case Keenum" then you're probably overrating QB play contribution to Vikes early season struggles.
 

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It can be by far the most important position and fans can still place too much blame/credit on QB performance because it is easy.

I mean if you watched last nights game and your first thought was "Man, Kirk Cousins is killing the Vikings. They should've kept Case Keenum" then you're probably overrating QB play contribution to Vikes early season struggles.

Haha, you have a way with the written word my friend. Well said.
 

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It can be by far the most important position and fans can still place too much blame/credit on QB performance because it is easy.

I mean if you watched last nights game and your first thought was "Man, Kirk Cousins is killing the Vikings. They should've kept Case Keenum" then you're probably overrating QB play contribution to Vikes early season struggles.

Yep.

And I'll still take a top defensive team any day over one that has an above average QB. Which team won the Superbowl last year?
 

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It can be by far the most important position and fans can still place too much blame/credit on QB performance because it is easy.

I mean if you watched last nights game and your first thought was "Man, Kirk Cousins is killing the Vikings. They should've kept Case Keenum" then you're probably overrating QB play contribution to Vikes early season struggles.

It's easy and fans remember the end of the game not the fumble by the RB on the goal line in the 1Q.
 

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It can be by far the most important position and fans can still place too much blame/credit on QB performance because it is easy.

I mean if you watched last nights game and your first thought was "Man, Kirk Cousins is killing the Vikings. They should've kept Case Keenum" then you're probably overrating QB play contribution to Vikes early season struggles.

I dont think anyone is saying Cousins is to blame for the loss other than Runmaker. And that's like trying to argue with an incoherent toddler.


Rams just a better team than the Vikings.



Enfuego and others are just saying that you cant overstate the importance of the quarterback position. Its just silly to try and do that when it's clearly the most important position on the team.
 

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You can overstate the importance of anything if you try hard enough.

I don’t think “QB is extremely important in the NFL” is something that is up for debate here. There is widespread consensus on this.
 

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Nick Foles
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Doug Williams
Jim McMahon
Mark Rypien
Jeff Hostetler
 

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Nick Foles
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Mark Rypien

Doesnt work in today's NFL. All the guys you list are ancient other than Foles and he had the game of his life in the superbowl vs a high school defense.


You wont see below average QBs win very many superbowls going forward.
 

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Doesnt work in today's NFL. All the guys you list are ancient other than Foles and he had the game of his life in the superbowl vs a high school defense.


You wont see below average QBs win very many superbowls going forward.

Don't agree with this at all. If you have a team with a top 5 D and serviceable offensive line and WRs all the QB needs to do is not make mistakes and make the routine plays to get to and win a Super Bowl.
 

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Doesnt work in today's NFL. All the guys you list are ancient other than Foles and he had the game of his life in the superbowl vs a high school defense.


You wont see below average QBs win very many superbowls going forward.

Just gave you the recent one regardless of how you want to discount it. So you're proven wrong.
 

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Don't agree with this at all. If you have a team with a top 5 D and serviceable offensive line and WRs all the QB needs to do is not make mistakes and make the routine plays to get to and win a Super Bowl.

And his name was Peyton Manning. Ask the Panthers.
 

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At the end of this season if vikes wins 9 games and lose rd 1, people will legitimately question if they should’ve signed him over bringing Keenum back. And it’s just results oriented.

They had a historically elite defense on 3rd down last season, almost flawless health and a much easier schedule.

QB is important but a lot of factors go into the results. Why Manning sucked 1 season his whole career and has as many SBs from that year as his 15 great years combined.
 

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Don't agree with this at all. If you have a team with a top 5 D and serviceable offensive line and WRs all the QB needs to do is not make mistakes and make the routine plays to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Which below average starting QB this year has a chance at a SB?
 

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At the end of this season if vikes wins 9 games and lose rd 1, people will legitimately question if they should’ve signed him over bringing Keenum back. And it’s just results oriented.

They had a historically elite defense on 3rd down last season, almost flawless health and a much easier schedule.

QB is important but a lot of factors go into the results. Why Manning sucked 1 season his whole career and has as many SBs from that year as his 15 great years combined.

I think Cousins was a marginal upgrade over Keenum and a good move by the Vikings.


A QB is something you overpay for
 

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Which below average starting QB this year has a chance at a SB?

Blake Bortles

And I'm lower on the Jags than the consensus is.

QB can be the most important position but still lot of ways to skin a cat. Final Four last year was Bortles/Keenum/Foles and some other guy. Granted Foles is deceiving because the Eagles only had him for 3 regular season games, but the point still stands.
 

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This is so laughable.

I'll update the Vikings' record with Captain Cousins every now and then.


And just remember. It's 2018. After Cousin's time in Minnesota he'll move on to another team and be another .500 level QB.

And people will still bouncing on his dick.



2023. Cousins with an amazing record of 54-54-1. Bravo! Or some shit like that.
 

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This is so laughable.

I'll update the Vikings' record with Captain Cousins every now and then.


And just remember. It's 2018. After Cousin's time in Minnesota he'll move on to another team and be another .500 level QB.

And people will still bouncing on his dick.



2023. Cousins with an amazing record of 54-54-1. Bravo! Or some shit like that.

That really won't matter. The premise of your original post is implying he's a bad QB because he had a fumble at the end of the game on Thursday night, despite the fact that he had a QB rating of 117, 422 yards of passing, a 72% completion ratio, 3 tds, and the offense scored 31 points. In the meantime, the defense gave up 38 points (and yet you put zero blame on them). It's completely irrational. The fact of the matter is, Minnesota's defense over the first 3 games is a shell of it's 2017 self. So while you're posting those numbers, make sure you post those defensive stats along side them. You're not going to win a lot of games if your defense gives up more than 31 points. As Patsfan stated earlier in this thread for you and the other clueless poster....

It can be by far the most important position and fans can still place too much blame/credit on QB performance because it is easy.

I mean if you watched last nights game and your first thought was "Man, Kirk Cousins is killing the Vikings. They should've kept Case Keenum" then you're probably overrating QB play contribution to Vikes early season struggles.
 

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