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Down a cool 600 today - but at least Barry is providing us with cheap gas
 

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gas prices go up blame under Bush ... all Bush's and republicans fault!
gas prices go up under Obama ... why even blame the president?
gas prices go down under Obama ... Obama is awesome!


Market goes down under Bush ... all Bush's and republicans fault. No blame democrats.
Market goes up under Obama ... Obama is superman and them democrats are awesome.
Market goes down under Obama ... why even blame the president? That's silly.
 
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Yeah he touches on something very crucial and that is how risk averse we've become.

Even if long-term having winners and losers is optimal, it's almost gotten too scary for us and we're coming up with these policies to extend the status quo far beyond its natural limit.

This goes beyond finance and into innovation and transformation. It's not a good cycle to be in.

I wish I could everyone I know to read this part of the article.

The mispricing of assets does two things, according to Grant. It pulls demand forward and pushes failure out. He pointed to the junk bond market as an example of central bank intervention. He noted that default rates in the space during the last year were 2.3 percent on average, compared with the average of 4.6 percent going back to 1970.



Companies are borrowing more at this phase of the financing cycle when they might have drawn down debt in the past, he said. That is in part because the terms dictating how that debt will be paid back is looser than it has been in the past, he explained.



"It gives companies a great deal more latitude to persist and to expand and survive," Grant said. "Now, in capitalism there is meant to be failure. It's like the forest floor. There is life, there is regeneration, there is death. Without that, what you find is a bunch of dead ferns. What we have in America it seems to me is more and more evidence of fernitization."



The Federal Reserve has given the United States a system of enterprise that is much slower to change, he added.

By printing more money and suppressing interest rates, the U.S. central bank sought to stimulate aggregate demand, but also inadvertently stimulated aggregate supply, he said. That has led to more capital expenditures, production and oil supply.
The Fed has held interest rates near zero since December 2008.



The "lot of everything" that policy has produced weighs on price indices, leading the Fed to print more money and further suppress rates in order to meet inflation targets, Grant said.
 

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gas prices go up blame under Bush ... all Bush's and republicans fault!
gas prices go up under Obama ... why even blame the president?
gas prices go down under Obama ... Obama is awesome!


Market goes down under Bush ... all Bush's and republicans fault. No blame democrats.
Market goes up under Obama ... Obama is superman and them democrats are awesome.
Market goes down under Obama ... why even blame the president? That's silly.

You must not read much here.

Gas prices up under bush....not his fault.....up under Obama his fault.

Market goes up under obama....nothing to do with him....goes down under Obama....all his fault.

You got the theme right but facts and reality completely wrong.

Must I really bump the threads to prove me right again? Don't make me embarrass you on this....I like you too much for it
 
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You must not read much here.

Gas prices up under bush....not his fault.....up under Obama his fault.

Market goes up under obama....nothing to do with him....goes down under Obama....all his fault.

You got the theme right but facts and reality completely wrong.

Must I really bump the threads to prove me right again? Don't make me embarrass you on this....I like you too much for it

Except you're the fucking retard that just blamed Bush a few minutes ago for 9/11 and ISIS.

Dumb ass.
 
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Just so I have this straight.....the years of booming stock market had nothing to do with Obama.....any drop is ALL on Obama? Lol. Gee....we haven't seen that logic here in almost one day!!

Yeah, contrary to popular opinion that logic applies to the lefties and the righties down here. When the market was setting records, the rocket scientists on your side of the fence (Guesser, Small Daddy, Drunken Horseplayer, etc..) were in here all the time telling us how great the market was and thanking President Obama for getting it there. Any guess as to why they haven't dropped by in the past 10 days?
 

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You must not read much here.

Gas prices up under bush....not his fault.....up under Obama his fault.

Market goes up under obama....nothing to do with him....goes down under Obama....all his fault.

You got the theme right but facts and reality completely wrong.

Must I really bump the threads to prove me right again? Don't make me embarrass you on this....I like you too much for it
oh I forgot the debt.

Debt goes up trillions under Bush - Bush is unpatriotic - Barrack Obama ... reckless spending!
Debt goes up even more trillions under Obama - well Bush over spent ya know, debt is good for the country and Bush was responsible for 9/11
 

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oh I forgot the debt.

Debt goes up trillions under Bush ... Bush is unpatriotic - Barrack Obama ... reckless spending!
Debt goes up even more trillions under Obama - well Bush over spent ya know, debt is good for the country and he was responsible for 9/11

What was the debt when Bush was elected?
 

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Bush was fucking things up at the opening bell, then Obama took over late morning

Just axe any libtard

was watching CNN while my car was being serviced (it was on in the comfort room) and the President's cock sucker actually said (paraphrasing)

(1) a turbulent market is the result of republican created gridlock

AND

(2) the market has done well because of Obama's policies despite republican gridlock


man, they know their flock all to well, most of them probably believe this somehow can be true

i'm like, this dude should be arrested for public idiocy
 

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was watching CNN while my car was being serviced (it was on in the comfort room) and the President's cock sucker actually said (paraphrasing)

(1) a turbulent market is the result of republican created gridlock

AND

(2) the market has done well because of Obama's policies despite republican gridlock


man, they know their flock all to well, most of them probably believe this somehow can be true

i'm like, this dude should be arrested for public idiocy
lol
 

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was watching CNN while my car was being serviced (it was on in the comfort room) and the President's cock sucker actually said (paraphrasing)

(1) a turbulent market is the result of republican created gridlock

AND

(2) the market has done well because of Obama's policies despite republican gridlock


man, they know their flock all to well, most of them probably believe this somehow can be true

i'm like, this dude should be arrested for public idiocy

He argues like the libtards in here.

Scary.
 

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Cramer trying to explain what caused the selloff.

How about just say you don't know shit just like the last time the Gov't caused a bubble?

"Don't sell Bear Stearns! That is preposterous!"
 

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Cramer trying to explain what caused the selloff.

How about just say you don't know shit just like the last time the Gov't caused a bubble?

"Don't sell Bear Stearns! That is preposterous!"
people are so dishonest.

everyone was saying before 2008 that these mortgages were trouble. They have been saying it for a long time.

everyone has been saying the market is is artificially inflated because of the Fed and Chine manipulating its currency. They have been saying it for a long time.

seeing as market corrections happen every 7 years or so. How is anyone surprised at today? Its going to be at 20K before you know it.
 

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Shemitah coming in September, something bad is going to happen on the 23rd.
 

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was watching CNN while my car was being serviced (it was on in the comfort room) and the President's cock sucker actually said (paraphrasing)

(1) a turbulent market is the result of republican created gridlock

AND

(2) the market has done well because of Obama's policies despite republican gridlock


man, they know their flock all to well, most of them probably believe this somehow can be true

i'm like, this dude should be arrested for public idiocy

Jayzsus
 

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