I think its time address the elephant ( Crudebar/Woodstool ) in the room..

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I've actually heard both sides now... All I wanted was transparency.. Some of it came in late... I didn't want Crudebar banned.. Wasn't my intention..

I will say this .. I didn't know Sam posted under Louie... I had to put him on ignore. He was a fucking pest..

Crudebar and I have pending wagers.. He expects me to pay off the wagers If I lose. That will happen if that's the way it goes. Same If I win these wagers , I expect to get paid..

Louie was a shit stain. Guess the name avocado is fitting, both are softies...

I think you realize now you shouldn’t have picked sides, both sides are mentally not all there...
 

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I would once again suggest letting this shit go...but this guy simply cant. This was basically years ago.

Once again. Don't take either of our words as gospel. Just use common sense and his actions into account.
 

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Louie was a shit stain. Guess the name avocado is fitting, both are softies...

I think you realize now you shouldn’t have picked sides, both sides are mentally not all there...

If Willie's PP wasn't a funding issue , I would never have brought it up. Sam and Crudebars beef didn't even register with me.
 

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bottom line...you both are complete aholes and not worth interacting with....also both of you are liars and huge drama queens
 

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Sooner or later, the scumbags that pull this type of garbage will cross the wrong person. The type of person that has nothing to lose. If the BS continues they will F with the wrong guy eventually, then karma will come knocking..
Any1 remember the guy in Puerto Rico who ended up kidnapped & murdered ( the bookmaker everyone hated ) ..... I'm just saying , you don't fuck with others peoples money - some people go apeshit over stuff like that ( I know people that would kill u for 10$ ) I'm just saying
 

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Credible information has come forward to me and a few others that Crudebar has been involved in lets just say shady behavior with another poster on this forum. PP scams , blackmail. etc..


Since we have thousands of dollars and PP transactions with election bets involved here with several posters, and Crudebar , I think its time to open this up to a civil discussion. Lets get the proper and full transparency from Crudebar and the poster involved with the blackmail and PP scams reported. After receiving this info , I'm more suspicious than ever about what happened with Willie's PP account being suspended. Just need to take a closer look at this..

Hopefully we can move this situation in a positive direction and a resolution...


leftist scum are always bad people

never forget that
 

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Lol he’s “not Crudebar” (even though it’s been confirmed by the mods) but felt the need to come back and write a novel about a situation that he had nothing to do with.....right

And yeah like I said, I’ve posted as ghosts because I was being blackmailed from posting under the SS handle.

Aside from that long post being full of insane/fictitious drivel, the fact that he even felt the need to come do that says it all. He’s just worried about not getting paid after getting exposed.

Simple as that. Any other thought is just an insult
 

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This drama is fucking old. Bottom line never make bets on the internet with ghosts. It just opens up the door to scammers and deadbeats. Need to be legit, know the person and must have ways of tracking them down in case they get cute like these two clowns.
 

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leftist scum are always bad people

never forget that

You have no friends and no life. Must be really sad existence for you. Those who make generalizations are people of limited intelligence. Stupid and lonely = Javy Baez. Shocked you haven’t killed yourself. Still an option.
 

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So red eye was looking to stiff on his abundance of shitty losing bets and tried to get rx to help him do it. Shrink would hang his head in embarrassment if it wasn’t blown to pieces.
 

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So red eye was looking to stiff on his abundance of shitty losing bets and tried to get rx to help him do it. Shrink would hang his head in embarrassment if it wasn’t blown to pieces.

You either need to change your meds or do something about that hard on you have for me... Very strange
 

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So red eye was looking to stiff on his abundance of shitty losing bets and tried to get rx to help him do it. Shrink would hang his head in embarrassment if it wasn’t blown to pieces.

wang POS
 

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