And you continue to miss the fundamental point being made here.
First, NO ONE is saying that OU isn't 'better' than UT. But being perceived as 'better' shouldn't trump head-to-head results. Do you NOT understand?
Second, UT would be doing the SAME exact thing to this pathetic Mizzou bunch, but alas, UT didn't get the CHANCE to do so.
Third, every man with a conscience and who respects the very nature of competition, where head-to-head results must reign supreme, has since spoken out LOUDLY in their belief that OU jumping UT is just flat out WRONG!
Bottom line, if it weren't for 2 mystery coaches who gave OU their first place votes last week (over then undefeated Alabama) in the USA today/Coaches' poll, we wouldn't even be having this discussion because Texas would still be #2 in the BCS if it weren't for those two fraudulent first place votes that OU got last week.
it was a 3 way tie.. not 2 way.. if it was 2 way then texas would be playing mizzou tonight, but its not. the bottom line is texas lost on a last second play to TT by and OU beat them by 40. that was the determining factor (to boost OU ahead of Texas in the polls) and if you think texas would be doing this to mizzou then you are out of your fuckin mind. cash in your user name n password n hit the road.
We are all bitching about an imperfect system. It sucks, I hate it, even though Bowl season is my favorite time of the year. As far as the fluke game theory, I don't care who you are, you don't have a fluke game in your biggest game of the year. I would have of rather seen OU lose to Baylor then Texas. To follow that, OU feasts on decent to average teams but when they face the top 5 historically they don't do well (especially in a bowl or on the road). If it were me I would give the slight edge to Texas, OU won only one tough road game, that was the OK St. game.
Have you been asleep for the last 2 months? Oklahoma has blown out every team theyve played since they lost to Texas...including Kansas, Nebraska, Texas Tech, and Okie State.
Oklahoma and Florida have clearly been the best two teams over the past 8 weeks of ball. I also believe they are 11-1ATS too, which Im sure carries some weight with the powers that be even though some may not admit it.
Ok, so let me get this straight?? You are willing to say 45-35 is enough to say that Texas is better than OU. But automatically ignore the fact that Texas Tech beat Texas and ended up with the EXACT same record in the SAME division?? What kind of logic is that??
Let me break this down for you.
Oklahoma 11-1 (lossed to Texas)
Texas Tech 11-1 (lossed to Oklahoma)
Texas 11-1 (lossed to Texas Tech)
Ok, so now they are TIED!! Right?? Or can you argue with facts??
Next....In the SAME Conference, Oklahoma's AMOV (average margin of victory) Dominates both other teams. OU has scored more points than ANY OTHER TEAM IN NCAA HISTORY.
Next...SOS (Strength of Schedule) Oklahoma's SOS exceeds that of Texas and Texas Tech. That is not arguable.
So other than your H2H argument which I have already proven to have no validity at all. Please inform me of one OTHER Reason that Texas should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma??? Dont worry, I'll wait.........:think2: <!-- / message -->
Let me break this down for you.
Oklahoma 11-1 (lossed to Texas)
Texas Tech 11-1 (lossed to Oklahoma)
Texas 11-1 (lossed to Texas Tech)
Ok, so now they are TIED!! Right?? Or can you argue with facts??
Next....In the SAME Conference, Oklahoma's AMOV (average margin of victory) Dominates both other teams. OU has scored more points than ANY OTHER TEAM IN NCAA HISTORY.
Next...SOS (Strength of Schedule) Oklahoma's SOS exceeds that of Texas and Texas Tech. That is not arguable.
So other than your H2H argument which I have already proven to have no validity at all. Please inform me of one OTHER Reason that Texas should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma??? Dont worry, I'll wait.........:think2: <!-- / message -->
Funny that you bring up the last play of t he game considering Texas was lucky to be in the game. Texas has no leg to stand on argument wise especially with the neutral field b.s. in a game played in their home state!
They only won due to horrible officiating.
Big deal a game was played at night, please.........
For the final time, NO ONE is debating that OU is not the 'better' team than UT, especially on paper and style points. But this argument isn't about who is 'better', rather, which team deserves to go.
And according to ALL of the people who broadcast, write, and have played and coached the game of football, it would only be the MOST fair if Texas went before Oklahoma based on head-to-head results which represent the most fundamental aspect of competition.
In your world, the Patriots should've gotten the trophy after the Superbowl last year because they were 'still better' than the Giants.
Neutral Field?? in Dallas Texas??? Let's play it in OKC and call it a neutral field. Haha..at Night?? are you serious?? Texas Tech dominated Texas the WHOLE game. lol.
By the way, why the personal attacks?? I was unaware that I had to speak (type) perfect english on this forum. I know what is and is not a word. But good job. You get cool points for that.
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And they also all agreed that OU was the best team in the B12 and deserved to go to the national championship after they manhandled Texas Tech, until the Mack Brown campaign changed their minds in a matter of one week. How else would you explain the fact that they were already ahead of Texas in the human polls, and then all of sudden the computer polls got them in last week???
Actually, Mack Brown didn't do a thing. It was Bob Stoops who was politicking on the airwaves for 2 straight days immediately after the TTech game, it was downright embarrassing. And Bradford on the set of the ESPN set immediately after the TTech game did the same.
Once the media exposed this, then and only then did Stoops say 'he was done talking about it' and then finally shut his mouth. Stoops looked very foolish by the end of things while Mack Brown, for once, actually kept quiet.
The bottom line is that when push came to shove in the human polls last week, anyone with an ounce of integrity who respects the game of football and head-to-head competition voted Texas above OU because they knew in their hearts it was the only right thing to do. Luckily for OU though, there were 2 corrupt coaches who voted them first over then undefeated Alabama, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion and Texas would be mopping the floor with Mizzou tonight while giving up far less points than OU did tonight.
I didn't hear too much Stoops, but I did hear Brown whining in 3 separate interviews saying it was a shame since they beat OK, including the very long rant during the OK/OK St game. Not like it's anything new with him, part of the reason he got Texas into their previous national championship game.
Again, if that were the case, why was Oklahoma already ahead of Texas in all of the Human polls, coming into last week? Everyone suddenly had a flash of brilliance?
That is complete horseshit. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. ESPN let Brown get up on his soapbox during the OU-OSU game. On Monday of this week, he was on ESPN two different times and was also on the Dan Patrick Show on ESPN radio, the whole time whining about how it wasn't fair. I didn't hear a peep out of Stoops on a national scale.
