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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by G. MONEY:
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YOU WILL FEEL MUCH BETTER ON THURSDAY WHEN YOU HIT THE LITTLE WHITE BALL..IF IT DOES NOT RAN THAT IS..........
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g...you are correct sir. btw, i checked the weather - looks like clouds but no rain. see you at 11:30.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wantitall4moi:
Realistically a guy might get 100 plays a season, maybe 150.

So do that math out for more realistic parameter.

150 would be 90-60 @ -107

42056 minus 30000 Profit $12056

That SURELY isn't getting rich. SO as I mave said , it is all about vloume interms of flat betting. And percentages are all relative. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good numbers, my question now is:

If you are betting $150 x $500 = $75000

If you have $75000, I think you can do several things to make more than $12056.

what you guys think?
 

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like what? you can't make that in the stock market. you can't make that in a bank.
 

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Pancho it is still all relative.

If a guy has a lot of money what is that going to mean to him? Like Investigator sais he risked a total of 75K to win 12. Granted that is about 16% ROI, but with gambling everyone thinks they are going to double up quick.

So a guy bets 1000 a game or even 2500 a game, he still has to have that amount and IMO opinion most rubes off the street aren't going to bet that much cash on games. Even at 2500 a game it is still "only" 60 grand. Is that a lot of money to a millionaire?

It is akin to the poker games i play in. I sit down with what to me is a sizeable chunk of change maybe 5000-7500, Some of the guys at the table have 25K or so in front of them and another 25K available. You think they mind mixing it up with me any? So it is all relative. What is 5 or even 10K to them? Sitting at a table with that kind if cash on it is nothing new to me, but I know going in I have maybe one or two stands in me because they will run right over me all night. But that is poker and not sports, and there is a big difference. But in terms of how people think about money isn't.
 

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Blue, your problem, and I'm shocked no one has said it yet...125 plays during the NFL season? 125 divided by 17 weeks ?(assuming u meant reg season) equals almost 8 games per week! There's your problem! You should be betting 1, 2, 3 games a week, sometimes none!
 

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HEY SHERMAN, I THINK IT'S TIME TO DROP THAT STUPID HARTFORD WHALERS AVATAR. JESUS CHRIST THEY HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE NHL NOW FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WHO CARES ABOUT THE WHALERS! I'M WILLING TO BET THAT 92% OF THE POSTERS HERE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT LOGO IS THE HARTFORD WHALERS. THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY HOCKEY FANS HERE AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AVID HOCKEY FAN TO KNOW THAT LOGO. PLUS, IT'S LIKE HAVING A BOSTON BRAVES LOGO, OR A BROOKLY DODGER LOGO, OR A MONTREAL MAROON LOGO. WHO CARES.. IT'S ANCIENT STUFF. PLUS, HARTFORD WAS ONE OF THE LEAST POPULAR TEAMS IN NHL HISTORY WITH THOSE UGLY GREEN UNIFORMS. GET RID OF THAT WHALERS AVATAR SHERMAN. I EVEN LIKED YOUR OLD DAVID ORTIZ ONE EVEN BETTER THAN THAT WHALER CRAP. BRING BACK ORTIZ.

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4W-16L last 20. Been there, done that ! Appreciate the honesty. There are a lot of folks that would not make that public, although I am sure that most of the posters here have had similar experiences.
 

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I don't even follow hockey too much, but I bet your wrong, the majority of people would know this logo belongs to the Hartford Whalers. But who cares anyway? So someone can't have an old throwback logo? Or how bout if someone had an avatar of Hank Aaron? Should they take it off because he doesn't play anymore? Or Thurman Munson? He;s dead, how dare someone make him their avatar. Sick, are you OVER the age of 12?
 

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besides, it's the best logo in the history of sports, in my biased opinion.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sherman:
Blue, your problem, and I'm shocked no one has said it yet...125 plays during the NFL season? 125 divided by 17 weeks ?(assuming u meant reg season) equals almost 8 games per week! There's your problem! You should be betting 1, 2, 3 games a week, sometimes none! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

125 games was just an example. by the way, with college football, bowl games and nfl playoffs, i don't think 125 games is an unrealistic number. especially if you play totals as well.
 

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I love the guys that say you should only be betting one or two weks a game. Who thought that up?

How are you going to make money doing that? 3 games a week is about 55 games or so including play offs. So that would be a record of 33-22, at 60%. The more realistic percentage of 54% would be 30-25. Whch when people look at it isn't that impressive.

But percentages are also always relative. Would you rather hit 60% over 60 games or hit 54% over 200?

Betting is all about volume, the more games the better, assuming you hit more winners than losers. That is why people lose so much, they worry about some arbitrary number of games a week they should or should not bet, rather than worrying about how to actually make the most money they can. If you bet all year round there should be no limitations on how many games you should bet. The more games you play the lower your win percentage actually has to be to show a better return on your money. This is all of course assuming you are flat betting.

But even then in the long run (say 5 or 6 years) a person flat betting hitting 53-54% will make more money than a person who straddles their bets (plays differing unit sizes) no proof, but an educated guess. The reason being that everuone remember the winners, no one remembers the losers. The guys flat betting don't remmber any because they all mean the same, and none carries more weight than any other.

With NCAA football, NFL, sides and totals, bowls and play offs, guys could be getting close to 400 bets a season in football overall. I will take anyone's 54% in that many games over even 65% of 60 games.

At -107 you only need to hit 52% to make money. Say you bet 1500 games a year one way. Worrying nothing about capping or outside influences, Just looking at lines, and picking a side. If you hit 52% you would profit $897.20 per $100 bet. So a guy betting a buck a game would show an $897.20 profit for the year. A guy betting a nickle would show $4486 profit, and so on.

Definately not getting rich, but showing a profit. So it isn't hard showing a profit Basically a coin flip(actually a coin flip could hit one side more than 52% of the time in that few flips) But people get caught up in all the bullshit that surrounds sportsbetting and they follow some theories or some make believe "rules" that some tout or salemen made up as to how and bet.

You know who invented unit plays? Touts, why? So they could charge more. The more stars themore it costs. Guys that think they have a better chance at one game than another are fooling themselves. Unless they do know for a fact that there is a fix. And if that were the case they would bet everything they own on it at every book they could get down at. And show me a gambler that has ever done that. So those claiming they know the "fix" is in are full of shit too. If you know you CAN'T lose how much would you bet? Everything you have of course. Who wouldn't? As in poker if you have the stone cold nuts in a N/L game and a guy bets into you are you just going to call? Not hardly, you go all in and if you could you would put your car truck, house in the pot too. That is actually where the nuts got it name. They used to put the nuts off their wagon wheels in the pot, meaning they bet there wagon too, knowing they couldn't lose. (but I digress) There are no sure things in sports betting however, even when a fix is supposed to be in. I have heard of many fixes, and they are not 100%.
 

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You've heard of many fixes? Beforehand? The only game that I believe I've seen that was fixed was the FSU-Florida game last year. Was that one fixed? I really would like to know, because never anywhere else have I seen the refs cost one team 28 points in a football game.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Investigator:


If you have $75000, I think you can do several things to make more than $12056.

what you guys think? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You dont need anywhere near $75,000 in order to bet 150 games at $500 each. If the season is 18 weeks long, you only need about 5.5% of this which would be less than $5000.

Just to survive bad runs lets say you need $10,000.

Blue,

If you dont enjoy it and it stresses you out you should give it up.
 

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I think everyone should have a throwback avatar just to piss off sick
 

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John Kerry what would you calla bad run? Someone in here said they went 4-16 in 20 games. That would leave you about 1869 of that 10,000 you started with. Thenwhat if you wanted to bet 4 games at one time? You don't have enough.

that is the problem, when peole say "you only need this much" they don't know what they are talking about. No offense.

People always assume the best, when in reality you have to assume the worst. But you are correct that you don't need to start out with 75K, but it isn't 10 K either.
 

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Ok I will agree with you on that.

Maybe you should start with 25 K or 30 K just to make sure you will last out the whole season.
 

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BLUE EDWARDS DID YOU EVER TRY RATING YOUR PLAYS WITH A SYSTEM LIKE ONE-, TWO-, AND THREE STARS AND RAISING THE AMOUNTS OF YOUR WAGERS ACCORDINGLY? ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS DO THIS, INCLUDING MYSELF! TRY IT SOMETIME. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED!
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue edwards:
like what? you can't make that in the stock market. you can't make that in a bank. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tommy Mullins:
BLUE EDWARDS DID YOU EVER TRY RATING YOUR PLAYS WITH A SYSTEM LIKE ONE-, TWO-, AND THREE STARS AND RAISING THE AMOUNTS OF YOUR WAGERS ACCORDINGLY? ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS DO THIS, INCLUDING MYSELF! TRY IT SOMETIME. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

tommy, you're right. in fact, if you call 900-beat-man right now i will give you all my 3 star selections, plus my lock of the year in the college bowl games, PLUS my inside information super bowl extravaganzza...all for $1,500.

we take all major credit cards.

if you can't afford the $1,500, i have to ask you...how much do you want you beat your man?

i offer the 1 star and 2 star games for $700.
 

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