I’m supporting NO black lives matter businesses.

[REDEYE]

Countering my response has very little to do with the rationale you're presenting. So in other words, if a guy like Jeff Bezos decides to throw some pocket change at BLM (say $20 million) to keep things going for 2-3 months and we have violence, looting, and destruction of property, you're not worried about it as long as he's not vocal about his donation. That doesn't seem to be very logical to me, but knock yourself out on that protest.

Seems like all you're just trying to do is argue here...

I'm avoiding any business that I can that supports BLM.

Will I be able to do that with every single business that I would frequent that supports BLM ? Probably not... Why. ? Because I'm not going to spend the time to investigate what businesses support BLM..Not going to spend much time with an overreach here.. If it comes to my attention which businesses do , or they publically state it , or puts up a sign in a window etc. I will act accordingly..

If some businesses and merchants get left out , so be it.. Not going to cry about it either way...

Unless I'm reading all this wrong , you're making a point that I have to be all in with every single BLM supporter boycott , if I'm going to boycott at all ?
If yes , that would be just your view.

 

[bodyforlife]

Seems like all you're just trying to do is argue here...

I'm avoiding any business that I can that supports BLM.

Will I be able to do that with every single business that I would frequent that supports BLM ? Probably not... Why. ? Because I'm not going to spend the time to investigate what businesses support BLM..Not going to spend much time with an overreach here.. If it comes to my attention which businesses do , or they publically state it , or puts up a sign in a window etc. I will act accordingly..

If some businesses and merchants get left out , so be it.. Not going to cry about it either way...

Unless I'm reading all this wrong , you're making a point that I have to be all in with every single BLM supporter boycott , if I'm going to boycott at all ?
If yes , that would be just your view.

Nope, not trying to extend an argument at all. Just commenting on what's been said, which seems quite irrational to me. I can't see how it would seem rational since some $40 million to $50 million has been raised to support the protesters and it would seem quite impossible to really know all the donors. If how vocal a person or company has been is the only metric, a protest like this is essentially ineffective (regardless of how much steam one wants to throw out on a internet forum). And as stated earlier, the original poster implied all business (Amazon being one of them). Obviously enjoy yourself with however many businesses you want to stop shopping at. I'll go for convenience and practicality knowing it's worthless to try and control the funding for this group.

 

[bigbet1234]

Nope, not trying to extend an argument at all. Just commenting on what's been said, which seems quite irrational to me. I can't see how it would seem rational since some $40 million to $50 million has been raised to support the protesters and it would seem quite impossible to really know all the donors. If how vocal a person or company has been is the only metric, a protest like this is essentially ineffective (regardless of how much steam one wants to throw out on a internet forum). And as stated earlier, the original poster implied all business (Amazon being one of them). Obviously enjoy yourself with however many businesses you want to stop shopping at. I'll go for convenience and practicality knowing it's worthless to try and control the funding for this group.

He’s not trying to control funding. How hard is it to understand?

 

[REDEYE]

Nope, not trying to extend an argument at all. Just commenting on what's been said, which seems quite irrational to me. I can't see how it would seem rational since some $40 million to $50 million has been raised to support the protesters and it would seem quite impossible to really know all the donors. If how vocal a person or company has been is the only metric, a protest like this is essentially ineffective (regardless of how much steam one wants to throw out on a internet forum). And as stated earlier, the original poster implied all business (Amazon being one of them). Obviously enjoy yourself with however many businesses you want to stop shopping at. I'll go for convenience and practicality knowing it's worthless to try and control the funding for this group.

We all approach things in our own way..and take our own stand that we feel appropriate.

I don't necessarily agree that I'm dumping any convenience for myself or stopping any of my shopping needs. Just shifting course with my choices when I can.. If It doesn't change anything in the overall scheme of things , so be it.

 

[bodyforlife]

He’s not trying to control funding. How hard is it to understand?

Do you actually have a goal here? How hard is it to understand what I've said? You are indeed trying to vote with your pocketbook and punish any business that supports this movement (which is your right). And it appears it will be wholly ineffective based on how broad of a stance you are trying to make.

Why did you waste your time starting this thread if you don't even understand your own goal? Hate to say it dude, but you sound like Kaepernick. And you can dodge and deflect what I've said all day long. You don't seem to have a clue on your own intent.

 

[StevieRay]

[FONT=&quot]BLM’s major financial supporters include:[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Airbnb – $500,000 to BLM and the NAACP[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Anastasia Beverly Hills fashions – $1 million pledged, $100,000 donated so far to groups including BLM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Bad Robot Productions – film studio involved in Star Trek, Star Wars, and Mission Impossible, $10 million pledged to “anti-racist” groups. BLM among the first recipients[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]BTS, a Korean pop group – $1 million, matching donations from fans[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Cisco, electronics giant – $5 million to groups including BLM and its own Fighting Racism and Discrimination fund[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]DECIEM cosmetics – $100,000 to NAACP and BLM [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Democracy Alliance – another Soros-linked group, added BLM to its annual $500 million donor list[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Door Dash – food delivery company, $500,000[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ford Foundation and Borealis Philanthropy – Left-wing groups that established a $100 million donor fund[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]George Soros’ Open Society Foundation – $33 million[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Glossier cosmetics – $500,000[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Pokemon Company – owners of the popular card game and its characters, $100,000[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Scopely – mobile phone game developer, $1 million to BLM, NAACP, and Equal Justice Initiative[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Spanx – undergarment manufacturer, $100,000 to groups including BLM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Square Enix computer games – $250,000 to BLM, also matching employee donations[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ubisoft computer games – $100,000 to NAACP and BLM[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Weeknd – Canadian R&B singer, $250,000[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sources include the above-mentioned Washington Times and Fortune pieces, Politico, Rolling Stone, Forbes, NBC News, The Wrap, and Elle, which has a long list of fashion and cosmetics firms making donations to BLM. ArtNet on Monday published a list of artists and galleries holding charity sales to support BLM. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The L.A. Times on Tuesday reported numerous companies are implementing donor-match programs that will match individual employee donations to Black Lives Matter with corporate funds.[/FONT]

 

[Bull24]

If you have a George Floyd poster in your window, or a BLM flyer or advertise BLM on your website you aren’t getting a penny from me.

All these businesses are adapting due to fear and it sickens me and I’m sick of seeing George Floyd’s picture all over Cincinnati.

What is unfortunate about this post is that the very fear you speak of is actually engrained in your own stances on this issue. Anyone that has been educated in sociology & psychology is aware that racism & support of inequality is rooted in a sense of fear from feelings of inadequacy & low-self-esteem. Victimization is directly linked with blaming others, rather than self-reflection to find the true cause of your stress. Here is an article that will provide clarity.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201801/the-psychology-racism

 

[ivyconniver]

What we need to bring America back together again is a good old fashioned war. I suggest against the people who started this disease in the first place. I think we can all unite on that.

 

[bodyforlife]

What we need to bring America back together again is a good old fashioned war. I suggest against the people who started this disease in the first place. I think we can all unite on that.

?

You sure you're in the right thread?

 

[mickj]

What is unfortunate about this post is that the very fear you speak of is actually engrained in your own stances on this issue. Anyone that has been educated in sociology & psychology is aware that racism & support of inequality is rooted in a sense of fear from feelings of inadequacy & low-self-esteem. Victimization is directly linked with blaming others, rather than self-reflection to find the true cause of your stress. Here is an article that will provide clarity.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201801/the-psychology-racism

BLM is a radical Marxist group, not supporting them shouldn't mean that you're automatically racist.

 

[exploited17]

What we need to bring America back together again is a good old fashioned war. I suggest against the people who started this disease in the first place. I think we can all unite on that.

Hey!!!! We got John Bolton in the forum

You don't unite different groups of people in a diverse country that you forced in for 50 years. That doesn't even count the biggest racial issue Even if the country remained 85-90% white you would still hvae to deal with a 10% angry group of black Americans. I don't think that is ever going away. The only thing that keeps it at arms reach is quality of life here. Once that slips away tribal warfare will get fubar

 

[StevieRay]

BLM is a radical Marxist group, not supporting them shouldn't mean that you're automatically racist.

Not one bit.

 

[bodyforlife]

BLM is a radical Marxist group, not supporting them shouldn't mean that you're automatically racist.

That's simply a straw man. I'm sure you can find an outlier or two that might make a claim like that, but I'm doubtful the vast majority has ever made that claim. You can keep watching the boob tube though and act like the very people you're professing not to be. Or you can turn it off and stop acting like so many of the drama queens that now are obsessed with a topic that rears its head every time we are in an election year (hard to believe people haven't been to this rodeo before).

 

[mickj]

That's simply a straw man. I'm sure you can find an outlier or two that might make a claim like that, but I'm doubtful the vast majority has ever made that claim. You can keep watching the boob tube though and act like the very people you're professing not to be. Or you can turn it off and stop acting like so many of the drama queens that now are obsessed with a topic that rears its head every time we are in an election year (hard to believe people haven't been to this rodeo before).

Not sure what you're saying. I was defending BigBet1234 from the person implying he's racist cause he doesn't like BLM (who are a very radical group).

 

[REDEYE]

Bigbet had a simple message. To many here not accepting it for what it is..

 

[bigbet1234]

Bigbet had a simple message. To many here not accepting it for what it is..

Exactly. Groups that project hate and racism, no thanks. The BLM mural painted in the street in downtown Cincinnati makes me sick. And to see the younger generation falling for this BS is sad.

Good thing is, I believe this is a small portion of society. But 99% what the media shoved down our throats with fear. They want separation and hate. And if you are aware enough to see it, it should concern you.

 

[bigbet1234]

We have a two week trip planned starting Tuesday. We always used Airbnb, not any more.

 

[bodyforlife]

Not sure what you're saying. I was defending BigBet1234 from the person implying he's racist cause he doesn't like BLM (who are a very radical group).

Whether you were defending him doesn't change the fact that it's a straw man argument. It's no different than a protester painting themselves out to be a victim. And it's that victim mentality that typically rears it's head during election time with both sides of the aisle claiming they are the savior. What I'm saying is... stop being a victim and making up imaginary villains. I seriously doubt the vast majority of people are saying anyone that doesn't support BLM is racist. That's the media talking and people like you and others eating it up like candy.

 

[bigbet1234]

Whether you were defending him doesn't change the fact that it's a straw man argument. It's no different than a protester painting themselves out to be a victim. And it's that victim mentality that typically rears it's head during election time with both sides of the aisle claiming they are the savior. What I'm saying is... stop being a victim and making up imaginary villains. I seriously doubt the vast majority of people are saying anyone that doesn't support BLM is racist. That's the media talking and people like you and others eating it up like candy.

So I’m playing victim because I won’t support a group that promotes hate, racism and separation? Ok.

That’s the problem with the US. Take race out of the equation n. Everyone wants someone to blame instead of looking in the mirror. And if they can avoid any and all responsibility for their own short comings the better.

I’ll NEVER support a group that encourages what the BLM is doing. And if that’s not their intention maybe they need to be more organiZed to portray their exact intentions.

Racism will always exist with every race. We’ve come a long way, and the media wants you to believe most cops are out there ready to lynch if they could. And that’s not the truth.

This whole agenda is pathetic. But they know what they are doing. They know some of the Americans mindset and they are using it against them to show how irresponsible they really are.

 

[bodyforlife]

So I’m playing victim because I won’t support a group that promotes hate, racism and separation? Ok.

Nope, read it again. I was telling mickj that he is creating an imaginary victim if he believes that the vast majority are claiming people are racist if they don't support BLM. He's simply being manipulated by the media if he believes that (he's making the claim based on a BS article and whatever other media BS he wants to believe). Clear enough or do I need to explain it some more?

Like I said before, enjoy your protest. You have every right to.